Open Discussion May 29th
Good afternoon folks! Santiago here. This is an open discussion thread. Please share whatever is on your mind, what you have experienced this week, or news stories you would like to discuss.
Here’s my thoughts of the week. Officer Michael Brelo, who was 1 of 13 officers involved in a 137 shot ambush style murder, was acquitted on Saturday.
Brelo apparently is said to have been justified in jumping on the hood of a vehicle firing 49 rounds into the windshield killing both unarmed occupants, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams.
49 shots! Let’s do some math. That means that Brelo is responsible for 1/3 of the gun fire that rained down on two unarmed citizens. Their justification or reasoning for the acquittal is somewhat hard to understand.
They claim the car that Russell and Williams were in backfired leaving them to believe the two were armed and fired a shot. The 2nd portion of the justification isn’t exactly that easy to explain.
The judge stated that he is not going to make an example out of Brelo simply because forensics could not determine what or whose shots exactly caused the death of Russell and Williams.
This is just beyond belief. What this judge has confirmed is that officers need only come up with a good story to justify the murders they commit.
But what’s even more disturbing is this judge has basically said if you have enough of your fellow officers involved that you can make it so difficult for forensics to figure out whose shot caused the death that officers can simply act like Outlaws in the wild west and gun people down in the most gruesome ways imaginable.
We are talking about a police officer so in fear for his life that he got out of his patrol, car jumped on the hood and fired shot after shot after shot while changing a few clips through the process.
And yet what do we wake up to this weekend? Another acquittal and the DOJ shaking down FIFA instead of shaking down these criminals sworn to protect us.
This is not any Anti-Cop posting. The truth of the matter is their job is not to play judge jury and executioner. Their job is to catch people and bring them in so that they can be punished by a court of law.
On another subject, the video of the 8 month pregnant woman who was arrested has gone viral.
What’s On Your Mind?
Posted on 05/29/2015, in open discussion, Potpourri, Uncategorized and tagged arrest of pregnant woman, Brelo, FIFA, open discussion. Bookmark the permalink. 59 Comments.
Honestly Xena,
I was not finished writing this thanks for the clean up though
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Oh-oh. 🙂 I saw the date on it and thought I was 2 days late. Sorry.
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No worries its all to the good
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It’s a cool day in my neck of the woods, cloudy, and predicted storms.
Peace! Be still.
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Starting to warm up out here again ready for summer to officially get here
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IMO The Fifa indictments are going to be a prelude to Delahoya V Haymon in Federal court. in reference to the Federal Ali Act
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OMG – that video – “why are you resisting?” Resisting WHAT??!!! They had NO right to do that!!! Arrest for WTF???!!!! That video has me SO pissed off!!!
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That video, the officer did not ask for ID from the first lady they encountered, and the officer is clearly heard saying that he did not think a crime had been committed, so he had no legal basis to demand ID from the 2nd lady at all. He escalated a situation with a pregnant woman instead of using his brains. Even a blind man can see the racism in the is incident.
The trial for officer Brelo: “We are talking about a police officer so in fear for his life that he got out of his patrol, car jumped on the hood and fired shot after shot after shot while changing a few clips through the process.” Those are my thoughts too Srodriquez!
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Keep in mind this is the same state not too long ago that showed a CHP Trooper beating up an older lady on the side of the freeway.
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*in this incident even
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I’d like to hear an update on the pregnant woman. Is she ok? What happened to her? Since it is not illegal to not give your ID when no crime is committed, can she sue? Press charges?
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I am sure she will sue and likely they will settle quickly maybe discipline the officer for his conduct this is California whens the last time you saw a police officer arrest or charged for things like this? and even if they get charged you never see convictions
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Hey sidewinder! Here’s a video showing the summary and update. The woman was interviewed on MSBNC yesterday also. The funny thing? A judge dismissed the charge of dismissing arrest, but the police department justifies the cop’s take-down action by saying it was because she resisted arrest.
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I still can’t…..that video is so upsetting and horrifying……
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if you dont watch this stuff when it surfaces how the heck will you ever be able to understand what we are protesting? How will you be able to look at the realities that we are faced with in our community at the hands of law enforcement?
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Oh, I watched it. I meant I still can’t comment and say everything my heart is feeling right now.
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When I find myself in position of being lost for words to express what I feel, I put myself in the shoes of the other person, asking myself what if it were me, and how would I describe the experience to others.
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Thanks, Xena.
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And then there was this brutal beating of a pregnant Georgia woman who then miscarried:
“Police Beating Led To Miscarriage: Lawsuit”
The Huffington Post
02/15/2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/15/police-beating-miscarriage_n_6687536.html
Excerpt:
Also here:
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“Prosecutor challenges legal analysis of Brelo verdict”
http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cleveland-police-chase/2015/05/29/brelo-verdict-legal-analysis-challenged/28176629/
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Antonio French @AntonioFrench 2h2 hours ago
More Allegations of Misconduct by McCulloch in Ferguson Grand Jury Investigation
http://cbsloc.al/1G8Y0xi via @kmoxnews
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Natalie Jackson retweeted
Shaun King @ShaunKing 7h7 hours ago
The security officer who shot #MonroeBird finally charged w/ drug possession. http://www.tulsafrontier.com/security-guard-who-shot-tulsa-teen-charged-with-drug-possession/ …
Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq 5h5 hours ago
UNBELIEVABLE: Tulsa DA Kunzweiler arrests security guard (3mos later) 4 MJ possession during shooting of #MonroeBird BUT NOT 4 SHOOTING!
Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq 4h4 hours ago
Tulsa DA hoped people would remain quite & forget #MonroeBird since DA declared security guard who shot MB was “standing his ground”. NOPE!
Natalie Jackson @NatJackEsq 3h3 hours ago
All “Stand Your Ground” means is no duty to try to retreat b4 defending yourself. Key word “DEFENDING”…one can’t threatening. #MonroeBird
How is unholstering your gun and saying “I’m going to shoot you” not a threat? #MonroeBird
Why’d Tulsa DA Steve Kunzweiler accept #RickStone’s illogical &unlawful excuse 4 shooting #MonroeBird when eye-witness told DA that RS lied?
Natalie Jackson retweeted
Kyle Franklin @KAFranklin07 7h7 hours ago
@ShaunKing He should be charged with attempted murder and made to pay for the lifetime of #MonroeBird’s medical expenses.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-matthew-apperson-bond-hearing-20150529-story.html
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I anticipated as much. If Zimmerman wants his side of the story told, he will have to testify. This is should interesting. On another note, Judge Nelson must be sick of seeing cases before her involving Zimmerman. 🙂
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gz having to testify certainly will be interesting!
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“Judge: Tests on gun in Pasco theater shooting case must be supervised”
May 29, 2015 at 06:30 PM
http://tbo.com/pasco-county/judge-tests-on-gun-in-pasco-theater-shooting-case-must-be-supervised-20150529/
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This is the Curtis Reeves’ case, right? If I remember correctly, his trial is scheduled to begin in August.
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Yes, but his trial probably will not be in August:
This excerpt is from:
“Trial for Curtis Reeves likely to be postponed, attorneys say”
April 30, 2015
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/trial-for-curtis-reeves-likely-to-be-postponed-attorneys-say/2227799
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“Texas legislature approves openly carrying handguns”
| Fri May 29, 2015 7:56pm EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/29/us-usa-texas-guns-idUSKBN0OE2SJ20150529
Excerpt:
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I had the best dream ever early this morning. New evidence came forward about #GZ following and assaulting Trayvon Martin. People celebrating in the streets. Good times!
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🙂
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Two sides, that’s a great dream, but unfortunately, we have the double-jeopardy clause so Zimmerman cannot be tried again for the same crime. What we might get, is the grand jury’s decision. Holder never said what they decided and he neither released investigation findings. Had they returned a no bill, he could have said so and been over with it, but what he said is that the DOJ decided to not press charges.
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There’s an anti-Islam protest going on now outside a mosque in Phoenix. I suppose since they couldn’t provoke hate for their race war, that they want to provoke hate for a religious war.
http://feed.matthewkeys.net/live1/
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What is wrong with those protesters!?
Why can’t people believe in religious freedom and tolerance?
(sidenote–there is also a second counter “love” group against the hate))
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Too much hate and the idea that some are superior to others.
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You are right. So sad. 😦
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deray mckesson retweeted
Matthew Keys @MatthewKeysLive 47m47 minutes ago
Actual t-shirt someone is wearing on the anti-Islam side: “Support your local white boy” – http://bit.ly/1ha6gye
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They want their race, and religious war.
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Yes, they are really pushing it….so awful, so evil.
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deray mckesson @deray 38m38 minutes ago
“And can someone text me when the mayor calls the armed folks at the mosque thugs?”
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Horrible….look what one of the protesters is wearing:
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Praying for peace and understanding:
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Remember the lawsuit filed by activists in Ferguson against Robert McCulloch?
Circuit Court Judge Joseph L. Walsh III asked their attorneys to get affidavits from other lawyers or prosecutors to support their claim. Two affidavits were presented, and Judge Walsh accept one. It was provided by Bennett L. Gershman, a law professor and former prosecutor and defense attorney.
Gershman complained about a “gross deviation from proper standards of conduct,” saying he never before saw prosecutors go to “extraordinary lengths to exonerate a potential defendant.”
Although the judge agreed to consider the law professor’s criticism of the conduct of the grand jury that investigated the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, he has not yet agreed to appoint a special prosecutor to re-examine the case.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_77bb7567-216b-5ea1-b73b-6aacd5a87a4a.html
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Shaun King @ShaunKing 5m5 minutes ago
New NY Times article on the police murder and attempted framing of computer expert” #JermaineMcBean
http://nyti.ms/1AESK1P
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Shaun King retweeted
deray mckesson @deray 10h10 hours ago
“86 Missing Minutes From Security Video Of Police Killing of #LaquanMcDonald” http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/laquan-mcdonald-investigation-305105631.html …
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“Dozens rally in Dayton for John Crawford”
DAYTON — Dozens gathered at the Federal Building and U.S. Courthouse in downtown Dayton on Friday afternoon to demand justice for John Crawford III, an end to police officer-involved homicides and the dignified treatment of black women and men.
Friday, May 29, 2015
http://www.whio.com/news/news/local/dozens-rally-in-dayton-for-john-crawford/nmRKL/#__federated=1
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Ryan J. Reilly retweeted
Radley Balko @radleybalko May 29
“St. Louis County towns now soaking residents for uncut grass, saggy pants, peeling paint, broken light bulbs.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/05/29/st-louis-county-towns-continue-to-treat-residents-like-atms/ …
Excerpt:
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Important poem at this link:
http://therealmalika.com/2015/05/04/labels-a-poem-dedicated-to-freddie-gray-baltimore-rip/
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After a battle with brain cancer, Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Beau Biden, has died. He was 46. My condolences to his family, his friends, and this nation.
http://www.people.com/article/beau-biden-joe-son-dead
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May you rest in peace, Beau, in God’s love and comfort.
I send my love and sympathy to Natalie and Hunter, to Hallie, to VP Joe Biden and Jill, and to all of loved ones. May they experience God’s comforting Presence.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/27/south-carolina-cop-indicted-shot-motorist/28028023/
May 27, 2015
Ofc. Craven on left and Ernest on right in above photo.
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I seemed to have missed this story somehow:
“SFPD cover-up exposed in Amilcar Perez-Lopez killing”
Apr 26, 2015
Excerpt:
Detailed article:
‘Shot from behind‘: man’s death reveals hidden horror of Latino police killings
June 2, 2015
“A private autopsy on Amilcar Perez-Lopez showed he was shot six times from behind, four times in the back, once to the head and once in the right arm Photograph: Arnoldo Casillas”:
Here is the diagram–
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This video is to accompany my comment that is in moderation (because it had 3 links)
“The Guatemalan migrant killed by San Francisco police: Amilcar Perez-Lopez’s story | The Counted”
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Here is the justice for Amilcar page:
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“$1.38M cop beating settlement will cost Inkster taxpayers”
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Yahtzee,
Good morning, I would like to ask if your going to post a link that redirects bloggers away from the blog that you at the very least please summarize why you believe the content is important to you what it means to you and why your bringing it to the blog.
All of these events are very important and should be addressed but I think it would be best for readers to understand why exactly your posting the content and what it means to you or how it effects you and or us…
when you post links one after another after another with out describing your concerns or your thoughts its as if you are spamming the comment section.
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I will stop posting news articles, scrodriquez.
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Nobody is asking you to “Stop” posting news articles I am simply asking that when you do please describe why it caught your attention why your bringing it to the blog and how it has grabbed your interest.
When you just post a link with no real substance to go with it or just a quote from the article it appears as if you are redirecting our readers elsewhere. there is an obvious reason you shared the link so please when you do all you have to do is take a few moments to share your thoughts in regards to the content your posting
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Hey, all is good. I understood your first comment. I will not post news articles without comment.
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