Open Discussion May 29th

Good afternoon folks!  Santiago here. This is an open discussion thread.  Please share whatever is on your mind, what you have experienced this week, or news stories you would like to discuss.

Here’s my thoughts of the week.  Officer Michael Brelo, who was 1 of 13 officers involved in a 137 shot ambush style murder, was acquitted on Saturday.

Brelo apparently is said to have been justified in jumping on the hood of a vehicle firing 49 rounds into the windshield killing both unarmed occupants, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams.

49 shots! Let’s do some math.  That means that Brelo is responsible for 1/3 of the gun fire that rained down on two unarmed citizens. Their justification or reasoning for the acquittal is somewhat hard to understand.

They claim the car that Russell and Williams were in backfired leaving them to believe the two were armed and fired a shot.  The 2nd portion of the justification isn’t exactly that easy to explain.

The judge stated that he is not going to make an example out of Brelo simply because forensics could not determine what or whose shots exactly caused the death of Russell and Williams.

This is just beyond belief.  What this judge has confirmed is that officers need only come up with a good story to justify the murders they commit.

But what’s even more disturbing is this judge has basically said if you have enough of your fellow officers involved that you can make it so difficult for forensics to figure out whose shot caused the death that officers can simply act like Outlaws in the wild west and gun people down in the most gruesome ways imaginable.

We are talking about a police officer so in fear for his life that he got out of his patrol, car jumped on the hood and fired shot after shot after shot while changing a few clips through the process.

And yet what do we wake up to this weekend? Another acquittal and the DOJ shaking down FIFA instead of shaking down these criminals sworn to protect us.

This is not any Anti-Cop posting. The truth of the matter is their job is not to play judge jury and executioner. Their job is to catch people and bring them in so that they can be punished by a court of law.

On another subject, the video of the 8 month pregnant woman who was arrested has gone viral.


What’s On Your Mind?


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Posted on 05/29/2015, in open discussion, Potpourri, Uncategorized and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 59 Comments.

  1. scrodriguez

    Honestly Xena,

    I was not finished writing this thanks for the clean up though :\


  2. It’s a cool day in my neck of the woods, cloudy, and predicted storms.

    Peace! Be still.


  3. scrodriguez

    IMO The Fifa indictments are going to be a prelude to Delahoya V Haymon in Federal court. in reference to the Federal Ali Act


  4. OMG – that video – “why are you resisting?” Resisting WHAT??!!! They had NO right to do that!!! Arrest for WTF???!!!! That video has me SO pissed off!!!


  5. That video, the officer did not ask for ID from the first lady they encountered, and the officer is clearly heard saying that he did not think a crime had been committed, so he had no legal basis to demand ID from the 2nd lady at all. He escalated a situation with a pregnant woman instead of using his brains. Even a blind man can see the racism in the is incident.

    The trial for officer Brelo: “We are talking about a police officer so in fear for his life that he got out of his patrol, car jumped on the hood and fired shot after shot after shot while changing a few clips through the process.” Those are my thoughts too Srodriquez!


    • scrodriguez

      Keep in mind this is the same state not too long ago that showed a CHP Trooper beating up an older lady on the side of the freeway.


  6. *in this incident even


  7. sidewinder50

    I’d like to hear an update on the pregnant woman. Is she ok? What happened to her? Since it is not illegal to not give your ID when no crime is committed, can she sue? Press charges?

    Liked by 1 person

    • scrodriguez

      I am sure she will sue and likely they will settle quickly maybe discipline the officer for his conduct this is California whens the last time you saw a police officer arrest or charged for things like this? and even if they get charged you never see convictions


    • Hey sidewinder! Here’s a video showing the summary and update. The woman was interviewed on MSBNC yesterday also. The funny thing? A judge dismissed the charge of dismissing arrest, but the police department justifies the cop’s take-down action by saying it was because she resisted arrest.


  8. yahtzeebutterfly

    I still can’t…..that video is so upsetting and horrifying……


    • scrodriguez

      if you dont watch this stuff when it surfaces how the heck will you ever be able to understand what we are protesting? How will you be able to look at the realities that we are faced with in our community at the hands of law enforcement?


    • yahtzeebutterfly

      And then there was this brutal beating of a pregnant Georgia woman who then miscarried:

      “Police Beating Led To Miscarriage: Lawsuit”
      The Huffington Post


      Cops beat a Georgia woman so badly that she suffered a miscarriage, according to a new lawsuit.

      The suit, filed by Kenya Harris, names the City of Albany, Georgia, police chief John Proctor and officers Ryan Jenkins and Richard Brown, Jr., according to Courthouse News.

      The suit claims that in May, 2011, Harris came to the Albany Police department after her son was arrested. She waited five hours to pick him up, but then told Jenkins she needed to leave to tend to her other children at home.

      Jenkins said if she made that request again he would take her head and “‘put it to the floor.”

      When Harris asked again, the suit alleges “Defendant Officer Jenkins, without provocation, grabbed plaintiff, who weighs less than one hundred twenty (120) pounds, by her neck and slammed her to the ground. Plaintiff momentarily blacked out and came to with defendant Officer Jenkins sitting on her back, and with his knee on her arm. Plaintiff was pregnant at the time.”

      Also here:

      The suit was filed on February 5th, and Albany Police Department has confirmed that neither of the officers named in the suit still works for the police force.


  9. yahtzeebutterfly

    Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench 2h2 hours ago
    More Allegations of Misconduct by McCulloch in Ferguson Grand Jury Investigation via @kmoxnews


  10. yahtzeebutterfly

    Natalie Jackson retweeted
    Shaun King ‏@ShaunKing 7h7 hours ago
    The security officer who shot #MonroeBird finally charged w/ drug possession.

    Natalie Jackson ‏@NatJackEsq 5h5 hours ago
    UNBELIEVABLE: Tulsa DA Kunzweiler arrests security guard (3mos later) 4 MJ possession during shooting of #MonroeBird BUT NOT 4 SHOOTING!

    Natalie Jackson ‏@NatJackEsq 4h4 hours ago
    Tulsa DA hoped people would remain quite & forget #MonroeBird since DA declared security guard who shot MB was “standing his ground”. NOPE!

    Natalie Jackson ‏@NatJackEsq 3h3 hours ago
    All “Stand Your Ground” means is no duty to try to retreat b4 defending yourself. Key word “DEFENDING”…one can’t threatening. #MonroeBird

    How is unholstering your gun and saying “I’m going to shoot you” not a threat? #MonroeBird

    Why’d Tulsa DA Steve Kunzweiler accept #RickStone’s illogical &unlawful excuse 4 shooting #MonroeBird when eye-witness told DA that RS lied?

    Natalie Jackson retweeted
    Kyle Franklin ‏@KAFranklin07 7h7 hours ago
    @ShaunKing He should be charged with attempted murder and made to pay for the lifetime of #MonroeBird’s medical expenses.


  11. yahtzeebutterfly

    SANFORD — The man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman will use a “stand your ground” defense in an attempt to clear himself, his lawyer said Friday.


    • I anticipated as much. If Zimmerman wants his side of the story told, he will have to testify. This is should interesting. On another note, Judge Nelson must be sick of seeing cases before her involving Zimmerman. 🙂


  12. yahtzeebutterfly

    “Judge: Tests on gun in Pasco theater shooting case must be supervised”
    May 29, 2015 at 06:30 PM


  13. yahtzeebutterfly

    “Texas legislature approves openly carrying handguns”
    | Fri May 29, 2015 7:56pm EDT


    The Republican-dominated Texas legislature approved a measure on Friday that would allow for openly carrying handguns in public in the state, a bill the governor has pledged to sign.”


  14. Two sides to a story

    I had the best dream ever early this morning. New evidence came forward about #GZ following and assaulting Trayvon Martin. People celebrating in the streets. Good times!


    • yahtzeebutterfly



    • Two sides, that’s a great dream, but unfortunately, we have the double-jeopardy clause so Zimmerman cannot be tried again for the same crime. What we might get, is the grand jury’s decision. Holder never said what they decided and he neither released investigation findings. Had they returned a no bill, he could have said so and been over with it, but what he said is that the DOJ decided to not press charges.


  15. There’s an anti-Islam protest going on now outside a mosque in Phoenix. I suppose since they couldn’t provoke hate for their race war, that they want to provoke hate for a religious war.


  16. yahtzeebutterfly

    Praying for peace and understanding:


  17. Remember the lawsuit filed by activists in Ferguson against Robert McCulloch?

    Circuit Court Judge Joseph L. Walsh III asked their attorneys to get affidavits from other lawyers or prosecutors to support their claim. Two affidavits were presented, and Judge Walsh accept one. It was provided by Bennett L. Gershman, a law professor and former prosecutor and defense attorney.

    Gershman complained about a “gross deviation from proper standards of conduct,” saying he never before saw prosecutors go to “extraordinary lengths to exonerate a potential defendant.”

    Although the judge agreed to consider the law professor’s criticism of the conduct of the grand jury that investigated the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, he has not yet agreed to appoint a special prosecutor to re-examine the case.


  18. yahtzeebutterfly

    Shaun King ‏@ShaunKing 5m5 minutes ago
    New NY Times article on the police murder and attempted framing of computer expert” #JermaineMcBean


  19. yahtzeebutterfly

    Shaun King retweeted
    deray mckesson ‏@deray 10h10 hours ago
    “86 Missing Minutes From Security Video Of Police Killing of #LaquanMcDonald”


  20. yahtzeebutterfly

    “Dozens rally in Dayton for John Crawford”
    DAYTON — Dozens gathered at the Federal Building and U.S. Courthouse in downtown Dayton on Friday afternoon to demand justice for John Crawford III, an end to police officer-involved homicides and the dignified treatment of black women and men.
    Friday, May 29, 2015


  21. yahtzeebutterfly

    Ryan J. Reilly retweeted
    Radley Balko ‏@radleybalko May 29
    “St. Louis County towns now soaking residents for uncut grass, saggy pants, peeling paint, broken light bulbs.”


    Now that the many, many municipalities in St. Louis County face the prospect of a state law imposing a lower limit on how much revenue they can generate from traffic offenses (along with a credible threat of actually enforcing that law), they seem to be turning instead to non-traffic-related offenses, which aren’t covered by the new policy.


  22. After a battle with brain cancer, Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Beau Biden, has died. He was 46. My condolences to his family, his friends, and this nation.


    • yahtzeebutterfly

      May you rest in peace, Beau, in God’s love and comfort.

      I send my love and sympathy to Natalie and Hunter, to Hallie, to VP Joe Biden and Jill, and to all of loved ones. May they experience God’s comforting Presence.


  23. yahtzeebutterfly
    May 27, 2015

    A South Carolina grand jury Wednesday indicted a white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed 68-year-old black motorist in his driveway after a chase last year.

    Justin Craven, 25, an officer with the North Augusta Department of Public Safety, is charged with discharging a firearm into an occupied vehicle. He stands accused of killing Ernest Satterwhite Sr. in February 2014.

    Ofc. Craven on left and Ernest on right in above photo.


  24. yahtzeebutterfly

    I seemed to have missed this story somehow:

    “SFPD cover-up exposed in Amilcar Perez-Lopez killing”
    Apr 26, 2015


    The lies of Chief Greg Suhr and the San Francisco Police Department surrounding the murder of 21-year-old Guatemalan immigrant Amilcar Perez-Lopez were exposed at a press conference in City Hall on Friday.

    Attorney Arnoldo Casillas revealed an independent autopsy report as part of a federal lawsuit against Suhr and SFPD showing that Amilcar was running away from undercover officers Craig Tiffe and Eric Reboli, who grabbed him from behind outside of his home in the city’s Mission District and then shot him six times: four bullets in the back, one in the arm, and one to the back of his head.

    This explicitly contradicts the repeated allegations of Chief Suhr, who embraced a commonly used tactic of painting the victim of police violence as an aggressive “thug,” stating that not only was Amilcar attempting to steal another man’s bicycle, but that when undercover officers approached him, Amilcar raised a knife over his head and charged the officers, forcing them to fire.

    Detailed article:
    Shot from behind‘: man’s death reveals hidden horror of Latino police killings
    June 2, 2015

    “A private autopsy on Amilcar Perez-Lopez showed he was shot six times from behind, four times in the back, once to the head and once in the right arm Photograph: Arnoldo Casillas”:
    Here is the diagram–


  25. yahtzeebutterfly

    “$1.38M cop beating settlement will cost Inkster taxpayers”


    • scrodriguez


      Good morning, I would like to ask if your going to post a link that redirects bloggers away from the blog that you at the very least please summarize why you believe the content is important to you what it means to you and why your bringing it to the blog.

      All of these events are very important and should be addressed but I think it would be best for readers to understand why exactly your posting the content and what it means to you or how it effects you and or us…

      when you post links one after another after another with out describing your concerns or your thoughts its as if you are spamming the comment section.


      • yahtzeebutterfly

        I will stop posting news articles, scrodriquez.


        • scrodriguez

          Nobody is asking you to “Stop” posting news articles I am simply asking that when you do please describe why it caught your attention why your bringing it to the blog and how it has grabbed your interest.

          When you just post a link with no real substance to go with it or just a quote from the article it appears as if you are redirecting our readers elsewhere. there is an obvious reason you shared the link so please when you do all you have to do is take a few moments to share your thoughts in regards to the content your posting


          • yahtzeebutterfly

            Hey, all is good. I understood your first comment. I will not post news articles without comment.


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