Open Discussion – Week of June 9, 2014

Caterpillars, moths, butterflies, and all creatures great and small,

There is so much happening that I can’t seem to keep up.  Yard work has gotten my attention lately, and there is still work to do.

Flower vine

In my backyard


The release of America’s final POW in the middle-east conflict has lots of discussion.  In my opinion, he’s still an American. He was still captured and held against his will.  He wanted to come home. We don’t leave people behind.

Some hearings and trials are coming up soon.  If anyone gets dates before I do, please post them in comments.

Having an open thread for a week doesn’t mean nothing else will be posted this week.  It just means that nothing will be off-topic this week and can be posted here.

Butterfly quote


Posted on 06/09/2014, in open discussion and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 63 Comments.

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  3. Xena, I love photo of the gorgeous flowering plant in your backyard!

    James Russell Lowell

    What is so rare as a day in June?
    Then, if ever, come perfect days;
    Then Heaven tries the earth if it be in tune,
    And over it softly her warm ear lays:
    Whether we look, or whether we listen,
    We hear life murmur, or see it glisten;
    Every clod feels a stir of might,
    An instinct within it that reaches and towers,
    And, groping blindly above it for light,
    Climbs to a soul in grass and flowers;
    The flush of life may well be seen
    Thrilling back over hills and valleys;
    The cowslip startles in meadows green.
    The buttercup catches the sun in its chalice,
    And there’s never a leaf nor a blade too mean
    To be some happy creature’s palace;
    The little bird sits at his door in the sun,
    Atilt like a blossom among the leaves,
    And lets his illumined being o’errun
    With the deluge of summer it receives;
    His mate feels the eggs beneath her wings,
    And the heart in her dumb breast flutters and sings;
    He sings to the wide world, and she to her nest,—
    In the nice ear of Nature which song is the best?


  4. “Heroes Among Us: When Ordinary People Become Extraordinary”


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  6. “Surveillance video shows deadly struggle during store robbery”


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  8. Neighbor with a gun tries to shoot dog that is mauling a 7-year old and wounds the kid instead.


  9. Would it not be better to bring him home and let a Military court decide what happened?
    I am disgusted that we had to deal with Terrorists to do this!


    • I was recently at a retirement party, this discussion came up and I made the mistake of saying I wouldn’t condemn Berghdahl yet. I felt that they needed to do a proper investigation–like talking to him first–so that a decision could be made as to his actions and whether or not he deserted or not. If he deserted or left the post without permission then charge him under the military rules and be done with it. Big mistake……one of the guests then went on a 40 min rant about patriotism, Benghazi, Obama, and vets–he was upset that Nam vets still aren’t given the same respect as the current vets. All was done in “tribute” to the retired person.


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  12. This is so scary and it could happen anywhere. Their behavior is excused it is just wrong. WRONG!!!


  13. OOps my comment ended up in the wrong place.

    ““Man claims Dallas police officer beat him for no reason””


    • That happens to me sometimes with comment placement, shyloh. 🙂

      I agree with your reaction to the beating.


  14. “Two years after pushing for a state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, the North Carolina Republican Party is stepping back a bit from its opposition to LGBT equality. Qnotes reports that its 2014 platform, adopted this weekend, makes some noticeable changes.

    Perhaps most notable is that the platform no longer calls for a federal constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage nationwide, reflecting a trend of many Republican candidates who are no longer pressing for such a measure. The North Carolina platform still endorses support for the state’s marriage amendment, encouraging “all efforts to defend it.”

    Also gone from the platform is opposition to “adoption by same sex couples,” which was replaced with support for single parents, who should be “treated with respect and dignity.” The newest platform additionally abandons problematic language that left room for discrimination based on sexual orientation, instead calling on government to “treat all citizens impartially and equally under the law” and opposing discrimination “in any form.”


  15. NewsBreaker @NewsBreaker · 8m
    BREAKING UPDATE: via @CBSNews: Police in Troutdale, Oregon confirm shooting at Reynolds High School; there are injuries


  16. The shooter inside the school has died.


  17. Reports say that a PE teacher was injured, maybe shot.


  18. One is too many.


  19. They are now reporting that a student has died (not the gym teacher).


  20. roderick2012

    NBC Pushing For Dismissal Of George Zimmerman Lawsuit

    The judge in George Zimmerman’s defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal is set to hear arguments on a request by the media company to dismiss the case.

    A hearing has been set for June 19. The case had been postponed pending the conclusion of the Trayvon Martin shooting case. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder last July in the shooting death of the 17-year-old in Florida.

    The former neighborhood watch volunteer sued NBC in 2012, claiming he was defamed when the network edited his 911 call to police after Martin’s shooting to make it sound like he was racist.

    NBC Universal said in a court filing that Zimmerman failed to comply with Florida’s statute regarding retraction requests after the March 2012 broadcasts at issue. It also argued that the harms Zimmerman says he suffered weren’t caused by the broadcasts.


    • Roderick, thanks so much for the update.

      It also argued that the harms Zimmerman says he suffered weren’t caused by the broadcasts.

      That’s it in a nutshell. I would add that no harm actually came to Zimmerman. He went into hiding before Trayvon was identified.


      • roderick2012

        Xena: That’s it in a nutshell. I would add that no harm actually came to Zimmerman.

        Harm? George benefitted personally from murdering Trayvon. Remember he paid off all of his debts with the blood money from the racists and then bought internet service for a year and matching cell phones for himself and Shellie.

        IIRC he told Shellie on one of the jailhouse phone calls that he wasn’t worried about the murder charge, but he was more interested in hiding the blood money so he could get a lower bail and not pay taxes.

        If this goes to trial those jailhouse phone calls are a treasure trove for NBC to prove that George didn’t suffer any harm due to his supposed infamy.


        • roderick, you make an excellent point. He capitalized off being a “racist” as long as the color was green.


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  22. An Iowa mother said this week that the Des Moines school board may have gone easy on a white teacher who told her black son to call him “massa.” Vice Principal Joseph Blazevich confirmed that the teacher, Shawn McCurtain had made the remarks.


    • That teacher should be fired.


    • roderick2012

      I have always been against homeschooling but if I ever had children I would find a way to make sure they avoided the racist school system we have in America.


      • Roderick, just read an article today about a kid in Canada who is the only Black in a town of 200 and that he is so depressed from being bullied that his mom is now seeking counseling.


    • What will it take for Congress to do something!!!


      • Congress won’t do anything. We have to vote people in who have our interests in heart, and hold them to their campaign promises.


    • I just clicked on the article link of the above tweet, and now have learned this:

      “Police Chief Calvin Williams said the man is a convicted felon and should not have had the weapon, which investigators allege he dumped in a garbage can before fleeing. Williams declined to give details about the suspect’s criminal record.”


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  26. Video:

    “Oregon school shooting victim was ‘amazing and great’ “

    I send my condolences and am praying for Emilio’s family and loved ones.


  27. “Gun violence at U.S. schools continues to grow sharply”


    The frequency of attacks has picked up since the December 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn., where 20 first-graders and six adults were gunned down.

    In the 18 months since that tragedy, 41 deaths have occurred in 62 documented incidents at U.S. schools. In the 18 months before that attack, there were 17 deaths in 17 incidents., a group that promotes gun safety, lists 72 incidents since Sandy Hook.

    Interactive Map of School shootings since Newtown, Dec. 14, 2012:


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