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Dooley and Zimmerman Cases – Same Law, Different Verdicts – Why?

Dooley

Trevor Dooley. Found by the jury to be the initial aggressor for leaving his garage with a loaded gun and approaching David James.

On January 23, 2013, I wrote an article on the significance of the Dooley decision.  It is a Florida case where the defendant claimed self-defense.  Trevor Dooley was found guilty of manslaughter.  His case is currently on appeal.

Trayvon Martin

Trayvon Martin. Found by jury to be the initial aggressor for exercising his right to be out of his residence when confronted by George Zimmerman.

When I first heard of the Dooley case, I expected that he would prevail on his claim of Stand Your Ground because of testimony that Dooley was walking back to his house when David James came up behind him, knocking him to the ground.

After the verdict and when I wrote the article, it was my position that the jury applied the facts to Florida law from the beginning, finding that if not but for the fact that Trevor Dooley left his garage with a loaded gun and approached David James for mouthing off at him, the two would not have come into physical contact.

Likewise, I said that if not but for the fact that George Zimmerman got out of his car with a loaded gun to follow Trayvon, the two would not have come into physical contact.  It was my position that the Zimmerman jury would find him guilty of 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter, by applying the law of initial aggressor to the facts.

I was wrong. Read the rest of this entry

George Zimmerman Trial – Day 5

This page will be updated throughout the day with videos of today’s trial proceeding.

 

George Zimmerman Trial – Day 4

The defense is not making a good impression to the jury.  Don West badgers witnesses and it is clearly seen that he mixes testimony and interjects his own descriptive words in attempt to paint State witnesses in a bad light.

In addition to this, Don West and Mark O’Mara are not defending George Zimmerman but rather, following a White Supremacist agenda to make this case solely a matter of race.  The Honorable Judge Nelson ordered that the State can use the word “profile” or “profiling” but not “racial profiling.”  Don West clearly used “racial profiling” when cross-examining DeeDee.

Let’s be clear — George Zimmerman was arrested because investigators found evidence to support a charge of 2nd degree murder.

Below are the videos from today’s proceeding provided by croakerqueen123.   A word to the White Supremacists and bigoted racists; please be respectful of croakerqueen123’s video pages.  If you (meaning, White Supremacists and bigoted racists) don’t like that she takes time to record live stream and make them available on her Youtube channel, then get your own software, learn how to use it, and open your own Youtube channel.

Regarding part 4, croakerqueen123 wrote;

Some got cut out. They looked at the witness’ twitter account, and BLDR had some issues with twitter, and it turned out she was not following Robert Zimmerman (but there is spec BLDR was logged in his account still, and it was saying HE wasn’t following) I will try to find that part, and post it as soon as I can.

(Administrator’s note.  Croakerqueen123 now has the video where the witness’ Twitter account is discussed. It is below part 4.)

Thank you, croakerqueen123.  Your work and time is greatly appreciated.

George Zimmerman Trial – Day 3

The day begins with the court denying the defense’s motion regarding entry of tapes of Zimmerman’s NEN calls for the 6 months before he killed Trayvon Martin.

Thanks again to croakerqueen123 for recording the trial and uploading to YouTube.

 

George Zimmerman Trial – Day 2

Thanks to croakerqueen for the videos.   They will be added throughout the day as she makes them available.

 

“Fu’king Punks” – Open Thread For Trial

Assistant State’s Attorney John Guy started his opening statement with how George Zimmerman referred to Trayvon Martin — an unarmed 17-year-old who was walking home from the 7-Eleven. “Fucking punks.” “These assholes. They always get away.” Clearly, Zimmerman saw one person as a “group.” The State’s opening statement was based on solid evidence without any misleading.

Watch live stream at: http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Videos of today’s trial hearing are below;

 

The 40 Ft. Stumble

Have we forgotten?  With motion hearings, arguments about discovery, beg feasts, and Mark O’Mara finally admitting there will be no pre-trial immunity hearing, it is easy to lose focus on who is on trial, and why.

Have we forgotten that George Zimmerman stated that Trayvon Martin approached him at the “T” and knocked him down with one punch?  After telling his story to law enforcement the evening he killed unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman was told that he would be required to come to the crime scene the next day and show law enforcement what happened.

At the crime scene, Zimmerman realized that his one-punch at the “T” knocked him down backwards story was not consistent with the head bashing, wiggling to the grass story.   Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin about 40 feet south of the “T”.  At his re-enactment, Zimmerman had to wing-it, and in doing so, contradicted what he told law enforcement less than 24 hours earlier.

The following video recaps Zimmerman’s first statement to police about being knocked down backwards with one punch from Trayvon Martin.  It also provides excerpts from Zimmerman’s first bond hearing, including Detective Gilbreath’s statement that Zimmerman’s story about wiggling from the concrete to the grass is not consistent with the evidence that the State found.

Killer and accused murderer George Zimmerman’s trial is scheduled to begin on June 10, 2013 with jury selection.

We Don’t Need You To Do That

Starting from point A.

Justifiable use of force by the aggressor is not available to a person who initially provokes the use of force against himself.

If not but for the fact that George Zimmerman, (who was armed with a fully loaded gun), got out of his truck to follow 17-year-old, unarmed Trayvon Martin, the two would not have come into physical contact.

 

 

 

 

April 2013 – Encouragement to Trayvon Martin’s Family and Friends

Artist
N.I.L.E. (Notorious in Lyrical Expression)

Blackbutterfly 7 shares in agreement with the Youtube “About” for the following video:

“This is a dedication song to young brother Trayvon Martin. We know a song won’t bring him back, but it will relay the love and the power of that love through GOD on how justice will be served and give the family and friends comfort that their voice does make a difference and is heard. GOD BLESS and pass this along to keep the movement for peace and justice strong.”

This song can be purchased at Itunes.

“Crucify him!” God’s Plan and Hoodies

Regarding the tweet of Robert Zimmerman Jr. where he commented “Crucify him,” has he not read Luke 24:25-27?   It was God’s plan. The Zimmerman’s, being Christian of the Roman Catholic denomination, should know this.

There is also something else we would like Junior to know from a historical view; the one crucified wore a hoodie.

 

 

 

Insight – Screaming For His Life

On the evening of February 26, 2012, a resident of the Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, FL., called 911 to report cries for help. Her call captured screams and the gunshot that ended the life of unarmed, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Admitted killer and accused murderer, George Zimmerman, awaits trial for 2nd degree murder, which is scheduled to begin on June 10, 2013. George Zimmerman claims that he killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

In a video, Xy11xy brings forth profound analysis of the screams captured on the 911 call. She begins with Robert Zimmerman Sr.’s own words to start her analysis, and ends with George Zimmerman’s need to silence Trayvon Martin. Xy11xy’s conclusion is confirmed by George Zimmerman himself. In his interview with Sean Hannity, Zimmerman said that he was terrified that night? Why was Zimmerman terrified? He told Hannity;

ZIMMERMAN: “I also thought the police were going to come and see me with the firearm and shoot me. I mean, I was terrified.”

Does this not sound like a man who believes that the arriving police would perceive him as a criminal because he is holding a gun?  But, holding the gun is not all Zimmerman and his dad claim was happening when Zimmerman killed Trayvon.  George claims that he was crying out for help.  Robert Zimmerman Sr. claims that George sounded like he was screaming for his life.    Why would the arriving police perceive a man holding a gun, but screaming for his life, as someone they should shoot?

In the following video, Zimmerman says that after he shot Trayvon Martin, he holstered his weapon and immediately got on top of Trayvon. Therefore, Zimmerman could not have been terrified that the police would arrive and see him with his firearm and shoot him after he shot Trayvon.  Zimmerman could only be terrified that the arriving police would see him with his firearm and shoot him before he killed Trayvon Martin. Is that logical based on Zimmerman’s version of what happened?

According to Zimmerman, when he fired his gun, Trayvon was straddled him, leaning over placing all of his weight on Zimmerman’s nose.  Also according to Zimmerman, the only hesitation between pulling his gun and shooting Trayvon, was the time he took to make sure his left-hand was not in the path of the bullet. When then, was Zimmerman terrified that the police would see him with his firearm and shoot him?

  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a man with a gun while hearing him scream for his life, straddled and bloody with the kid going for the holstered gun.
  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a teen bashing a man’s head on concrete and punching him in the face. Why shoot the man on the bottom who is on the receiving end of a physical assault, while screaming for his life?
  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a teen smothering another man. Why shoot the man on the bottom who in spite of being smothered, screams for his life?

So, we ask again, when was Zimmerman terrified that the police would see him with his firearm and shoot him? Would that only be possible if Trayvon was screaming for his life because Zimmerman was holding the gun?

March 2013 – Encouragement To Trayvon Martin’s Family and Friends

The following video by GraceThePoet was posted on YouTube, March 24, 2012.    Since that time, the accused murderer and killer of Trayvon Benjamin Martin has been arrested.  The trial of George M. Zimmerman for 2nd degree murder is scheduled to begin June 10, 2013.  

We reach out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin, lifting you up in faith, hope, and love.

Thank you, GraceThePoet, for your Dedication to Trayvon Martin – Made It Home.

Knox gets Knocked Out By LLMPapa, A True Warrior For Justice

We are called True Warriors for Justice for Trayvon for many reasons. One of those reasons is our unwavering commitment of making sure that George Zimmerman faces a jury of his peers in the killing of Trayvon Martin.  A gentleman referred as  LLMPapa has produced several videos regarding the Trayvon Martin murder case. He has produced more than 300 videos on his YouTube channel. His videos are extremely informative by using visual and audio with the case evidence that has been made available to us, the general public.  He has a unique ability of taking the evidence and putting it in context so the average viewer may understand the evidence. His videos are not limited to just evidence documents, but also what the defendant, the defendant’s family and lawyers have said in interviews, radio and social media.  He has made some humorous videos as well.

Mr. Michael Knox, a forensic expert, was interviewed by Tony Pipitone, and put together a  demonstration using 2 cardboard cut outs  and two white T-shirts.

Mr. Michael Knox has also written a book called “Intermediate Range”.   I admit I did buy the book.  He presented his book as an unbiased view of the evidence. If I remember correctly, Knox also said he had a copy of GZ’s concealed weapons license in the book.

Fellow bloggers know that I love having links and have an extensive library of the evidence available.  I share  it with fellow bloggers when they need a quick reference.  Thus, upon reading Mr. Knox’s interview and watching his demonstration, I was sadly disappointed to find that he does not take all available evidence into account.   Also, in my view and in the view of many others, Mr. Knox did not conduct his experiments authentically and omits pertinent evidence in order to reach his conclusions.

Mr. Knox comes to the faulty conclusion and assertions based on his belief that Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman when Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the heart.  In Mr. Knox’s expert opinion, the position of the misalignment of the bullet hole through both garments is due to “sag” and gravity of Trayvon Martin’s hooded sweatshirt. However, in his demonstration, Mr. Knox stands while firing the shot and his cardboard substitution for Trayvon is upright.

We have found his conclusion to be  flawed.

The Medical Examiner’s autopsy reports that the trajectory of the bullet was directly front to back.

Trayvon Martin was either flat on his back or standing when he was shot.

Either way, the bullet  trajectory can be accomplished from both positions, but not from a leaning position as the defendant claims and Mr. Knox claims.

If Trayvon was leaning over GZ, as Mr. Knox asserts, then as an credible expert, Mr. Knox should have produced his demonstration that way and traced the path of the bullet.

Witnesses 5, 16,12 and 18 all said they saw GZ on top of Trayvon at the time or immediately following the shot.  Mr. Knox apparently took the word of one witness, (wit-6) and GZ’s statements over the totality of all the witnesses statements and evidence. We are all aware that Witness 6 later changed his statements of what he saw.  First claiming that he saw MMA style beating, he later gave an interview with State prosecutors that he saw no fists being thrown, nor heard sounds of flesh hitting flesh.

We have come to the conclusion, based on the evidence, that Zimmerman had a hold of Trayvon Martin’s hooded sweatshirt and his underneath sweatshirt, when he shot Trayvon in the heart.  In his videoed statements, Zimmerman demonstrates this as well by reaching out his left arm and clasping his left hand.

Recently,  LLMPapa  made a series of videos challenging Michael Knox’s conclusions presented in his interview with Tony Pipitone of Channel Six news of Orlando, Fl.

The standards that we mostly use in defense of Trayvon Martin being murdered are to use the evidence we have available and reasonable speculations that can be backed up with data available to us.

According to Mr. Knox’s  blog post dated May 18th 2012,  he posted two scenarios.

Excerpt taken from blog post dated 5/2012:

“In order for there to be this much distance between the clothes and the skin, one of two things had to happen: either (1) the clothing was being pulled away from Martin’s body (presumably by George Zimmerman) or (2) Martin was on top of Zimmerman, chest downward, with his clothes hanging due to gravity.”

Fast forward to our present date, where we have more detailed information per discovery.  Knox chose to conclude the second scenario was the best to present in his interview with Tony Pipitone, which was that “Martin was on top of Zimmerman, chest downward, with his clothes hanging due to gravity.”  Mr. Knox does not say why he abandoned the aforementioned scenario number 1, for his scenario number two.  Therefore, we must conclude that Mr. Knox chooses to believe Zimmerman’s narrative  of being on the bottom when he shot Trayvon Martin.

LLMPapa addressed the Zimmerman being straddled story when he shot Trayvon in the following video.

A  poster named Patricia postulated a long time ago that Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon using a painful restraining maneuver to keep Trayvon down. At the very, very, very beginning of witness-11’s 911 call,  we clearly hear the words “I’m begging you, get offffffffffff”.   We posted about that in September 2012.

I along with others firmly believe that those words screamed are from Trayvon Martin. Two independent audiologists confirmed that the screams heard on the 911 call  are not the voice of George Zimmerman. They have been listed on the State’s witness list.

In all of the many statements made by Zimmerman, either by written statements or interviews with LE, FDLE, walk thru the next day, he has never claimed to say those words, “I’m begging you.  Get off”. He only claims that he yelled for help.

I reiterate again;  Mr. Knox, “the expert”, did not listen or review all the evidence to date, before going on National Television to claim conclusively in his expert opinion that the shot came from underneath Trayvon Martin.

We know the amount of effort that goes into LLMPapa’s videos and we all love and admire him for his continuing  support for  Trayvon Martin. LLMPapa has declined several interview requests from several newspaper reporters. In one video he explained his reasons why.

Our commitment is a shared one. After viewing the series I felt, as a True Warrior for Justice, I must get LLMPapa’s videos out to the general public for everyone to view and compare with Knox’s analysis.

Mr.  Knox started a small Twitter war with LLMPapa, asserting that his measurements were off and used 5 syllable words on his blog to try to deflect his errors. He immediately tweeted Mr. Pipitone, Robert Zimmerman Jr, Charles Blow, and Benjamin Crump among others, apparently in effort to save his reputation.  In one of his twitter responses, he wants to meet LLMPapa for a face to face.  Our question to Mr. Knox is, how did you become aware of LLMPapa’s videos?   Are you aware that there are Zimmerman supporters who instigate arguments and defame those disagreeing with them by using partial truths with malicious lies about their personal lives?  Would you want to subject LLMPapa, or anyone for that matter, to massive cyber-harassment and illegal doxing?

Mr. Knox, you may not understand our reasons for being active in seeking justice for Trayvon Martin. While your reasons may only be to sell a self- published book, get a few new clients, get on TV, and maybe just maybe be called as an “expert”witness in the case of Florida vs. George Zimmerman, those are not our reasons.  You claim things in your expert view that do not agree with all evidence.  For instance let’s take gravity for an example. The back of Mr. Zimmerman’s head shows blood  going towards his ears, indicating that GZ was leaning forward.  The  photo is time stamped at 7:19,  3 minutes after he shot Trayvon.  In the photo, there is no dirt,grit from the pavement, debris, or grass on the back of his head to indicate he was on his back when he fired that fatal shot.  Blood rivulets are going forward toward his ears.   How is it possible that blood flows upward for Mr. Zimmerman, presumably on his back for a whole minute, while supposedly being beaten. Do the laws of gravity not apply to him?

Gravity does not lie.

But Mr. Zimmerman does.

The fact of the matter is you did not do your homework. You did not do due diligence in fact-finding and presenting a valid argument for your analysis.  You got  called out by a “layman “and you will not own up to it. Myself, along with others, shall continue to shed light on the darkness that you and others spread. Experts like Mr. Knox  do a disservice to their profession and  the judicial system. We shall continue our quest in keeping the public aware of people like you where the word of an “expert” can set a guilty man free, and send an innocent one to his grave without Justice.

Blessed Are Those Who Mourn . . .

“…for they shall be comforted.” Matthew 5:4

To all of those in sorrow for children gone too soon.

Devotion by Earth Wind and Fire.  Written by Maurice White and Philip Bailey.

MAKE ALL THIS END

Robert Zimmerman Sr.

On March 19, 2012, Robert Zimmerman Sr. met with Investigator Jim Merck of the State’s Attorney Office, and Dale Crosby of the Florida Department of Law enforcement (FDLE).  Robert Zimmerman Sr. is George Zimmerman’s father.   Papa Zim’s statements reveal that by solely relying on his belief that it was George’s screams heard on the 911 tape, and that George had a broken nose, that the investigation should be closed.

When asked by the Investigator and FDLE officer if there was anything else Robert Zimmerman Sr. wanted to tell them or if there were any questions he had for them that they could answer, Robert Zimmerman Sr. replied,

            “Not unless you can make all this end.”

As he continued to talk, Robert Zimmerman Sr. conveyed to the investigators what their decision should be, and how it should be presented to the public.  Effectively, he suggested to them that someone, from some office should stand up and say what the investigation reveals rather than only saying that no charges are being brought.  His suggestion was that by revealing the results of the investigation, it would prevent complaints that the Sanford Police Department and State of Florida cannot be trusted.

On March 19, 2012 when Robert Zimmerman Sr. spoke those words, he was well aware, and informed by the investigators at that meeting, that the investigation was on-going and had not concluded.  Papa Zim’s suggestion effectively told the investigators to make-up findings (or rely solely on him saying GZ is innocent), so that no charges would be brought against GZ.