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Caterpillars, moths, butterflies, and all creatures great and small,
I have to take a break and hope to be back blogging by the beginning of next week. Although I’ll be checking in at least once a day, I don’t plan on writing a post. Along with medical lab tests, I have to find a dentist because a filling just came out and I want to have it taken care of before the nerve reminds me of its existence.
Here’s a shout-out and hugs to new subscribed followers and participants. Thanks so much for your support.
New Blog launched in July 2015.
If you’re interested in our experience with cyber-extortionists, or have experiences of your own with cyber-harassers, you might want to visit the blog flightattendantfailures. The reason for the blog title is on the “About” page. I began documenting the history and have also reblogged at least one very good article on the study of internet trolls. I would appreciate your reading and input.
This is an open discussion thread. Feel free to discuss whatever is on your mind, share videos and links to articles for discussion.
What has been on my mind is how I came to know about Jose Campos Torres by a poem written by Gil Scott Heron and set to music on his album “The Mind of Gil Scott-Heron” released in 1978. You might have read Santiago’s post on El Cinco De Mayo. It reminded me of Jose (Joe) Campos Torres.
A Viet Nam Veteran, Jose was arrested for disorderly conduct on May 5, 1977, at a bar in Houston’s predominantly Latino East End neighborhood. Jose was 23-years old. Six police officers responded and took Jose to a spot called “The Hole” next to the Buffalo Bayou. They beat him. The officers then took Jose to the city jail, who refused to process him due to his injuries. They were ordered to take him to Ben Taub General Hospital. Instead, the officers took him back to the banks of Buffalo Bayou. It is reported that officer Denson said, “Let’s see if the wetback can swim.“ Jose was then shoved 20 feet into the water. His body was found two days later.
Jose’s death was ruled a “drowning homicide.” Officers Terry Denson and Steven Orlando were tried on state murder charges. They were convicted of negligent homicide and received one year of probation and a $1 fine.
Denson, Orlando and Officer Joseph Janish were later charged with federal civil rights violations and assault. In 1978, a federal judge sentenced them to a 10 year suspended sentence on the civil rights charge, and they served 9 months in federal prison for the assault charge.
Those sentences sparked riots in Moody Park in Houston. Blacks and Mexican-Americans banded together to protest and it escalated into one of Houston’s worst riots. Forty people were arrested, but most of the charges were dropped. Prosecutors however, went aggressively after what became to be known as the “Moody Park 3.”
Here’s Gil Scott Heron in his poem for Jose Campos Torres.
Posted on 10/07/2015, in open discussion, Potpourri and tagged El Cinco DeMayo, flightattendantfailures, Gil Scott Heron, Houston, Jose Campos Torres. Bookmark the permalink. 82 Comments.
Please take good care of you!
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Thanks Gator Woman. (((Hugs)))
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U R needed out here!
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Gator Woman, I feel the same about you. You are voice for the voiceless or should I say, those who cannot speak in a language known to human beings.
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I wish that you were here to help us save our beautiful Black Bears.If those who wish to end their lives had ever sat next to them looking into their eyes, I know that they could not kill them.
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I too wish that I could do something about the Black bears in Florida. Since we live on the border of Wisconsin, we see them from time to time. They mean no harm to humans.
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The one that I met up close was breathtaking. It was sitting in the road as I drove up, I stopped, rolled down my window and we sat and looked at each other. I spoke, it kept staring at me. Finally it wandered back into the woods. I would never be the same again.
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Good afternoon Xena. I had no idea about this story perhaps due to the fact I was 2 when this happened.
its so disgusting to see how Law Enforcement simply gets away with this and usually ends up with suspended sentence while the tax payer has to dish out settlement cash to pay the victims.
Police reform is needed just as bad as gun control and its up to the people to keep video tapping to keep reporting and to keep fighting until that becomes a reality.
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In this case the tax payer only had to pay $1.
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It’s such a slap in the face to all American citizens, to allow LE to do this to us
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It is good you are taking time off to rest up and take care of medical appointments. Your health should be your number one priority.
I’ll be thinking of you, Xena. 🙂
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Hey Yahtzee. I’m looking forward to getting the tests over and now have an emergency appointment with the dentist. Things should be good in a few days. 🙂
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This seems to be the season for those we love having ‘tests’. I’m glad you’re taking care of you!
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See you soon Xena and thank you for all you contribute here.. Love and Hugs Sue x
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This case was horrible in every way.
The cops kidnap & torture him once, then he was almost saved until the system allowed him to be kidnapped again &tortured to death by drowning.
Then the state & the killers make a mockery out of his murder in a fake prosecution & an unbelievably disrespectful sentence by a judge!
Then the feds do the same thing.
This is a terror tactic.
The state & feds terrorized the public afterwards.
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Hey Shannon! The Houston Chief of Police resigned about a month after Jose’s body was found. His replacement and the riot that followed are said to be the reason for significant changes in the Houston police department. That was 1978. Here we are in 2015, and we see where juries cannot decide on a verdict, or judges acquit based on failure to prove what bullet was the kill shot out of a massive amount of bullets.
I’m so glad that Gil Scott Heron memorialized Jose on recording. Another recording that Heron did is titled “Gun.” Recorded around 1981, Heron predicted today’s gun culture and how people would buy guns on the allegation of protecting their families.
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There is a Michael Brown documentary coming out soon:
“New ‘Ferguson Cover-Up’ Documentary Looks To Uncover Details Of Michael Brown’s Death”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-pollock-ferguson-cover-up-michael-brown_56141bd2e4b0368a1a615b0b
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That’s great news. I’ll read it tomorrow. I see red every time I read or hear some dummy says stuff like “doj disproved hands up” etc.
Too many witness said Mike Brown’s raised his hands UP but Wilson executed him anyway.
I believe them.
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also the forensics clearly show ONE shot for certain the forearm shot hit the back of Browns arm and exited the front meaning it could happen one of two ways, he was shot from behind while running away, OR that shot hit from the front with Browns arm raised……there was also a bicep shot that could have been from either direction…..and the final 2 shots came as Brown was FALLING to the ground, he could NOT have been running in the position his body was in when those shots hit him., try running with your head tilted so far forward it is below your waist, oops i shouldnt have asked you to do that sorry about you falling and skinning your nose.
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Those two “kill shots” are the evidence of ill will & malice. They prove Wilson’s intent was to kill Mike & for no apparent reason he could legally justify. Because after giving Wilson every single benefit of the doubt about what started at the SUV, once Mike was over 100 yards away and shot 4 or 5 times, there was simply no reason for those two shots to his head.
And you know what? Even without the forensics you mentioned, before i believe the man with a gun & only reason to lie, I’ll always use my common sense, especially when 11 witnesses are backing it up. Mike’s hands were up.
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That is great!! Thank you yahtzeebutterfly
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Be well Xena. Take care of yourself. Health is number one priority. I had 2 coworkers have to call emts. 1 passed away. So be good ,please.
Also let’s hope the Oregon school killings convince the deniers that active shootings are increasing not decreasing.
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Native Americans Get Shot By Cops at an Astonishing Rate”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/native-americans-getting-shot-police
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Randall Kerrick, who was charged and tried for killing Jonathan Ferrell, has resigned from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department. The jury in the murder trial hung and the state will not re-try the case.
The city of Charlotte paid him $113.000 subject to taxes and standard deductions.
http://www.greensboro.com/news/police-officer-accused-in-fatal-shooting-resigns-from-force/article_68ddb546-ac43-50ea-8b1d-74dce751ef7d.html
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“VIDEO: Misread License Plate Leads to Officer-Involved Shooting”
http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/142362/a/video-misread-license-plate-leads-to-officer-involved-shooting
“Published on Oct 8, 2015
DashCam Footage from the Fairfield, Iowa Police Department’s officer-involved shooting.”
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Xena,
Hope all is going well for you and your health, I just got some great news today and the timing could not be more perfect. I am not going to be around much online so if you need to contact me please call or e mail me.
I have a busy weekend friends getting married on Saturday, and then of course preparing for Tuesday so my absence is simply to keep my mind fully focused on the 13th.
Thanks so much for all of your support and everything you have done for us through it all..
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CALIFORNIA’S GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN SIGNS ANTI-PROFILING BILL!
http://leonkwasikuntuoasareblog.com/2015/10/09/californias-governor-jerry-brown-signs-anti-profiling-bill-article/
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Read that the other day and the cops are not excited about this one bit, aww whats the matter Mr. officer you upset that our constitution gives us civil rights? anyhow just got emailed a supplemental brief that was filed with the 2nd dist honestly the case cited actually supports my argument from the trial court.
I still do not know why he thinks or how he gets the idea that the higher court has the authority to vacate the order. the way Appellate courts work from what I have learned is that if you win with the higher court that in it self does not automatically vacate the order you have to then motion the lower court to vacate which he already did and was denied, or motion to have a new trial either way can you clarify that for me
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Santiago,
I don’t have the energy to get into the details now. Suffice it to say that appellants cannot argue things in their brief that were not argued before the trial court, and stand a very slim chance of having decisions overturned when they fail to appear at trial in any manner.
Another reason I don’t say much is because the culprit reads here and learns from me. I will give him two points. First, the standard of review for a restraining order is abuse of discretion, not de novo. There are not two standards for the same issue and it seems as if he should have learned that in the decision on the prior appeal. Secondly, copying and pasting a court decision in an appeal brief does not constitute appellant argument. He needs to explain how the decision applies to the instant case — not merely say that it applies. That’s an unsupported argument.
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Totally understand, Court went as expected today another delay but we are used to that by now. However the good news is everything needed to get this done is now before the court cant wait for our final hearing which is trial… I would love to share what is going on but there is no need to at this stage all i can say is the truth will be proven I have no doubt about that
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Santiago,
I understand that some very damaging evidence was provided by social media hosts. As the saying goes, it “throws the book” at the perpetrator. He could have avoided that but was dishonest claiming that it was not his accounts. He could have accepted the self-verification and left it at that, but his lies have now created a situation that seals his fate.
Stay strong.
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Yup! I was shocked that they actually complied. my attorney told them if they did not he would motion for sanctions. we have the burden of proof. Obviously they complied at that point.
its just a matter of getting through the next few weeks once again, but we have all that is needed here which makes the wait well worth it.
in all honestly this all could have been avoided had he just left us alone the moment there was an order issued. He has left us with no other choice being that he has made it clear he does not intend on stopping.
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What shocks me more is that hosting companies have staff whose first responses are boilerplate. They often confuse subpoenas to be for discovery purposes only. Here, the person is an actual party in a case and had no say-so to them to not comply with the subpoena.
Remember in Zimmerman’s case when O’Mara wanted the social media account info for Trayvon and others? Judge Nelson issued those subpoenas, but Facebook told O’Mara that since the account holders were not parties to the action, that he would need to take them to court. In other words, they weren’t going to comply because the subpoenas were for discovery purposes for persons not parties to the case. I can appreciate social media hosting companies not allowing people to go on fishing expeditions for discovery of non-parties, but parties to cases are a different animal.
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Exactly, and what gets me is that his motion in Limine is something he got from the Zimmerman trial. that trial and those motions DO NOT apply to every court case. He self-authenticated his accounts anyway.
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As I understand it, a motion in liminie cannot request the court to disallow evidence that establishes the case. Also, they cannot be presented as a substitute for a motion to dismiss nor a motion for summary judgment. In other words, if the motion requests the court to dismiss the case, and/or raises an affirmative defense, it fails and will more than likely be denied. The party who requests liminie must also show the court how the evidence they want excluded prejudices them.
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Just curious and I hate to ask but wanted to know what exactly is consecutive sentencing?
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I suppose we will find out then wont we? You did read the transcript I assume so we pretty much already know that this motion isnt really going anywhere they are typically used in Jury trials we have no jury here and a judge is supposed to be un biased so again we will find out soon enough
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Well I guess the subpoena puts all of that to rest anyways so im not worried about it. But I did look into a few cases sited in the supp brief recently filed and the cases that are being referenced to the person actually followed the order of the court
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Yes, that case is very distinguishable. Additionally, since he didn’t raise that argument before the trial court, he lost his chance to argue it on appeal. That is why I believe that he commits paper-terrorism on the court to frustrate opposing parties. One of his admitted agendas is to cause other parties financial harm. If they do not participate in the appeals, he continues filing papers and motions hoping to provoke a fight so they have to pay appearance and lawyer fees to challenge his nonsense.
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I just saw the “Special Motion” that was recently filed in Wayne County (Check your e mail) and well lets just say this its no surprise who prepared that nonsense and again that motion I expect to be denied. its clear that the intention in that motion is to delay the process and try to raise jurisdictional arguments again
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Oh wait. I can’t stop laughing. You (generally speaking) cannot tell the court to grant you anything to challenge the court’s jurisdiction, because you’ve told the court it lacks jurisdiction to grant you anything until that issue is resolved. Yep — it reeks of sovereign citizen contradictory argument. Special appearance, improper service, lack of jurisdiction mumbo-jumbo.
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if there is anything we have learned is what the difference is between a Special appearance and a General appearance. that motion asked for relief from the court thus meaning she has made a General Appearance. I have no idea why she would be okay with him doing her paper work but hey it is what it is. what are the chances she gets so mad when she losses she turns around and sues him? Grabbing the popcorn for that one
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Santiago,
Just so you know, the subject party visits this blog. We should stop discussing the case.
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The family of an unarmed black man shot in the back by a white police officer will get a $6.5 million settlement from North Charleston in South Carolina, city officials said on Thursday. The man, Walter Scott, 50, was shot after fleeing a traffic stop in April. The shooting was caught on a bystander’s video and reignited a national outcry over police treatment of minorities.
http://news.yahoo.com/south-carolina-city-pay-6-5-million-over-003514585.html
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One more police shooting in California! Was it justified? Did the officers respond correctly and legally? Is/was it the result of out side influence?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/09/blurred-lines-between-fact-and-fiction-on-social-media-add-up-to-death-in-l-a/
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The two police officers responded appropriately.
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Yahtzee, Did they? It has been implied by many people that “any” use of deadly force by the police is not acceptable. Did they give the man time to surrender? Did they use “non lethal” methods to resolve the situation?
It seems that no matter what the various police agencies and individual officers do, there is someone who wishes to condemn their actions. When people suggest that because police officers are equipped with such devices as bullet proof vests they are safe, yet even on this site we have some people stating that if they were put in a position to face someone with a vest they would either shoot below or above the vest to eliminate the threat. While no one could say that we do not have a problem with some officers not being professional in their actions, we offer very little support for those that do. While complaining about the police is done frequently and quite vocally, we should perhaps actually offer some valid suggestions on how to fairly resolve the problem, that at this time is sorely lacking. Many of us have difficulty walking in our own shoes, yet freely dance around in the shoes of police officers, perhaps we need to consider that they are human and suffer from the same short comings that we all do.
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Mothman,
Each case needs to be looked at separately.
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Mothman,
That’s because I do not support the killing of anyone, and that includes the killing of cops. Mankind cannot resurrect from the dead. We should not deliberately take human life.
Now, for a balance , I refer to a movie, “Die Hard”, the first one. Yeah, I know it’s a movie, but there is a cop character who revealed to John McCain that he had shot a kid who had a toy gun. He showed serious remorse and changed his duties because of that. He didn’t think he would ever fire his weapon again. That changed at the end of the movie where he did, and did so to save the lives of others.
In the majority of the cases that I report here, that is what is missing from those sworn to uphold the law — remorse. That is usually coupled with the officers being less than truthful, and that betrays public trust.
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Hey Mothman! For a moment, I’m going to focus on the source; i.e., rap music that talks about violence against police officers. The cop shop didn’t know it was a promotional video for a rap group. Should they? I don’t think they are obligated to know the “culture” of gangster rap.
What we see with this is that violence, even by way of words set to music, has an effect or impact upon the viewers and listeners.
Next focus is actually a question. Had those cops not known of the video, but suddenly experienced their back window breaking out, would they have responded in the same fashion? Would they have believed that there was a credible threat?
The legal consequence of vandalizing police property is not the death penalty, but that man should have anticipated being arrested for his action. That the cops believed he was armed and killed him does demonstrate excessive force.
To answer your question, “yes.” There was outside influence, but I question if the cops would have acted any differently had there not been since the credible threat was the breaking of the window.
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Yahtzee,
“Each case needs to be looked at separately.”
While we agree on that unfortunately quite often it does not happen that way, perhaps because far too many people have opinions that are preconceived and biased toward their own preformed ideas. It might also be noted that the news media in this country are not exactly unbiased in their reporting of the news, and seem in many cases to twist the facts to fill an agenda that is in their own best interest. One of the good things (amongst many) is that on this site, Xena does an exceptional job of ensuring that the truth and fairness is maintained.
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Mothman,
Thank you for this. It means a lot to me.
The subject of excessive force used by law enforcement is not an easy one. There are times we will never be able to determine the truth, but we can be fair in presenting the details as we know them, and expressing our opinions based on what we know. That is one of the things that makes these cases complicated because too often, they leave open too many what-if’s.
So, let this be publicly stated to remove any and all what-if’s if I’m ever approached aggressively by law enforcement — I would faint. Don’t let it be said that I did or said anything other than physically collapse. 🙂
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Here you go, Mothman. These are hard to come-by. 🙂
Body Cam video clears police officers. (Youtube has since terminate that Youtube account.)
https://youtu.be/E7B03zLX4vMLikeLike
Praying for Pauline’s complete recovery.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ebola-nurse-pauline-cafferkey-isolation-royal-free-hospital-062839746.html#TuARtpN
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Oh my goodness!! A newspaper reported about 2 months ago that there was no more Ebola in Africa. Now we have a nurse with it in Scotland?!?!?!?
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I just want to send you XXOO and to say how sorry I am for being out of touch. I really lost hope for a couple of months. Yet I know I have no right to do that.
Thank-you or keeping hope alive. XXXOOO
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Claire,
There’s nothing to be sorry about. I am sorry that I did not know you have been out of touch. I do hope that you are doing better and your hope is restored. Here’s sending you love, and positive thoughts. When you experience being in a cocoon, know that breaking free gives you wings to soar.
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Hope you are all better soon. My health hasn’t been great either, so I can relate. XOXO
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Brenda,
Thanks. Here’s sending you strength and love. I realized Friday that along with doctor’s appointments, tests, etc. that there is the paperwork and phone calls. The paperwork and phone calls take up more time than anything else and most of it is very time sensitive. I’m so sick of hearing press 1 for this; listen to the menu. Press 2 if you’re calling about (laundry list), 3 if you’re calling about (laundry list) and 4 if you’re calling about (laundry list). If you are calling for another matter, state why you are calling. Then I hear, “All representatives are busy. Please hold, or leave a call back number. Your call will be returned in (pre-recorded numbers) 45 minutes.
Also, I discovered that most times if I don’t press the number to leave a call-back number but choose to hold, that the phone is answered immediately. LOL!
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Voice mail!! It’s the pits. Pain is worse, though. I hope you can find your way through the labyrinth soon, my friend.
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Hey Brenda! The days of having a real person answer the phone are, I’m afraid, over with. What I get a real kick out of is when Comcast goes down, and that includes my internet. When I call, the automated person says to check their website for reports of trouble. LOL!
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RCN does that same thing. LOL
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“Tamir Rice’s Family: Prosecutor Is On A Quest To Avoid Accountability”
OCTOBER 11, 2015
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/11/447694198/tamir-rices-family-prosecutor-is-on-a-quest-to-avoid-accountability
Excerpt:
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Vote Sawant @VoteSawant
“NPR: Seattle Swaps Columbus Day For #IndigenousPeoplesDay”
http://n.pr/1hx6jYo @NPR
I hope this celebration spreads across America.
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Speaking of dreadful cases, just came upon a post by Ron Thomas, the father of homeless man Kelly Thomas who was brutally beaten and murdered by cops in Fullerton, California in July 2011. The mother had a civil case settled with money in 2012, but the father’s case is far more extensive:
Ron Thomas
1 hr ·
Here is the latest on the civil trial. The jury questionnaires have been turned in to the court and in a few days, the prospective jurors will start filling them out. The court where it will take place will only be trying the case on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of each week. No Schedule has been turned in yet as to when who will be on the stand and on what days, but I will let everyone know when I find out. If I were you, I would wait for the days when the murders [murderers, I believe] will be on the stand and also the chief [of police]. This case will be very different from the criminal case, as each of them have given a deposition including former chiefs, and will take the stand and will have to answer very difficult questions from my attorney. We all know the truth about what really happened, but this time it will be made public in a court of law.
RT
Thomas is referring obliquely to the fact that the defense and prosecutors conspired to keep the video that captured the entire murder out of evidence during the criminal trial and so the jury never even saw it. It’s an incredibly blatant and clear case of murder. Only two of six cops were charged and the jury let them off.
Warning – graphic and disturbing, but if you need a reminder of what the case is about, here’s the evidence:
http://www.ocregister.com/video/c/1125901233/latest/1626615556001/crime-fullerton-kelly
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Ooops, looks like the OC Register has pulled it down, no surprise, big mouthpiece for the corrupt OC justice system. Looking for another link – here’s one . . . here’s the same one saved to YouTube.
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Two sides,
Thanks for the info and update.
If I remember correctly, 3 officers were charged but after Ramos and his partner in crime were found not guilty, the state dismissed the charge against the other officer.
I too thought it was horrible that the jury did not get to see the video. Ramos actually threatened Kelly to f-him up.
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TwoSides,
I appreciate your important update on the upcoming civil case.
Kelly should have received justice in the criminal trial against the officers. I believe his father will prevail in the civil trial.
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I am still shaken and aching/shattered when I think of Kelly. He was tortured to death so horribly. My whole being is crying.
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https://www.rt.com/usa/318175-baltimore-woman-rough-ride-settlement/
http://www.trbimg.com/img-55397fef/turbine/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-001/1050/1050×591
(Photo of Christine Abbott in van. Photo handed out by Jenna Erb)
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Keegan Stephan @KeeganNYC 32m32 minutes ago
NYC will pay $500K to family of #ByronHearst, shot & killed by NYPD cop/landlord over rent:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-500k-settlement-family-man-killed-article-1.2393446 …
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“Confederate flag backers indicted in clash with black partygoers”
5:05 p.m. Monday, Oct. 12, 2015
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/confederate-flag-backers-indicted-in-clash-with-bl/nnz2Q/
Excerpt:
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Oh dear Lord…
deray mckesson @deray 1h1 hour ago
“Bloody, strapped to chair, video shows police tasering Matthew Ajibade in the testicles before death”
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/13/1431428/-Bloody-strapped-to-chair-video-shows-police-tasering-Matthew-Ajibade-in-the-testicles-before-death …
Shaun King @ShaunKing 2h2 hours ago
This is #MatthewAjibade
A beautiful soul. An artist, photographer, a computer science student.
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Here’s a portion.
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Very informative. Wow.
I learn something new everyday.
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Hello there, dear friend! Thanks for the comment. Yes, everyday is one of learning anew and experiences.
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“Jury seated in wrongful death lawsuit against Fullerton”
POSTED BY ALEXANDER NGUYEN ON NOVEMBER 18, 2015
Excerpt:
http://mynewsla.com/orange-county/2015/11/18/jury-seated-in-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-fullerton/
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Oh yeah — telling a “suspect” “I will fuck you up” and then proceeding to it is included in police training, and too bad that Kelly might have had a heart condition. Ooookay. This is going to be an interesting case.
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Yes, very interesting.
Some think that the trial might last into February:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2015/11/09/55562/kelly-thomas-wrongful-death-civil-trial-begins/
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“$4.9M Settlement Reached In Kelly Thomas Wrongful-Death Lawsuit”
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/11/23/4-9m-settlement-reached-in-kelly-thomas-wrongful-death-lawsuit/
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Brian Kuebler @BrianfromABC2 16h16 hours ago
“Jury selection next Monday will start with a pool of 75-80 and Williams ruled all #FreddieGray jurors will remain anonymous. So ordered”
“While all jurors will remain anonymous…they will not be sequestered.”
“Judge Williams will also allow 2 of the 4 videos of #FreddieGray arrest for Porter trial. The other two are excluded though”
“Defense also argued for more strikes when picking a #FreddieGray jury…Williams denied that.”
“Defense argued failure to seatbelt isn’t manslaughter/charges should be dropped. Was denied. @BaltimorePolice order on belts is relevant.”
“There was also yet another motion for change of venue in #FreddieGray case. That was passionately denied once again by Judge Williams.”
“And so that’s it folks. Ground rules are set and jury selection in first #FreddieGray trial is slated for Monday, Nov 30.”
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