Second Health Care Worker At Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Tests Positive For Ebola
It is truly amazing that we hear that Ebola is not an air borne virus, yet there is no understanding for how people, and their pets, are being infected. Maybe if hospital staff had taken Duncan seriously when he first came to the ER, it could have prevented the spread.
Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. (AP Photo/LM Otero, File | ASSOCIATED PRESS
The Huffington Post
A second health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas has tested positive for Ebola, the Texas Department of State Health Services announced early Wednesday.
The unidentified health care worker treated Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who tested positive for the disease on Sept. 30. Duncan was the first person to have been diagnosed with the virus in the U.S. He died on Oct. 8.
After reporting a fever on Tuesday, the health care worker was put into isolation. Authorities are now searching for anyone who may have been in contact with the worker.
Nina Pham, the first nurse diagnosed with Ebola after treating Duncan, is also in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, it is still not clear…
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We Hold These Truths To Be Self-Evident 
thankfully those with Ebola weren’t ‘humanely’ put down as suggested by certain GOP members.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/blood-transfusions-ebola-survivor-dr-kent-brantly-patients/story?id=26182136
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Mindyme,
I hadn’t paid much attention to the disease until recently, and the bleeding caught my attention. There’s a drug called Coumadin (and Warfarin) that contains the killing agent in rat poison, where rats internally bleed to death. Ebola is considered a “virus” but if I understand it correctly, blood transfusions helped the two individuals who were brought to America for treatment for Ebola. The virus must be in the blood. It also surprises me that the virus crosses two species — animals and humans.
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They suspect that the people first caught it from bush meat (infected animals) in Africa so they have known for awhile that animals are carriers. Dogs are a concern since they say they can carry the virus but not show any illness which is why Spain wanted to put down the nurse’s dog over there.
They say the virus is in body fluids, not just the blood. Also those that recovered aren’t supposed to have any sex for about 3 months since they have found the virus still in “cured” patients.
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If “body fluids” includes urine —– well, I don’t want to think about it.
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How Do You Get Ebola?
Ebola isn’t as contagious as more common viruses like colds, influenza, or measles. It spreads to people by contact with the skin or bodily fluids of an infected animal, like a monkey, chimp, or fruit bat. Then it moves from person to person the same way.
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http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ebola-fever-virus-infection
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I understand the need for quarantine, but had heard you can only spread the virus if you are exhibiting symptoms.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/14/nbcs-medical-expert-under-quarantine-for-ebola-caught-in-public/
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I am praying for those infected and for the wonderful medical providers risking their health to care for the sick. I ache for those who are suffering.
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well, it is not as if i needed much of an incentive, but i will continue to remain outside the borders of texas. there are many times when i am grateful that i live in such a rural enclave, even if it is filled with folks who i consider total rubes. unfortunately, this speaks only for myself when there is a much greater issue at hand. i agree with you xena that the state of texas and this hospital in particular acted abominably when presented with a crisis situation. let us hope that their ignorance can be contained, but i remain as always, cynically optimistic.
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Hey Fauxmccoy!
I just heard a quickie news run (“News at 10”) that said a nurse returning from West Africa to the U.S. has been diagnosed with Ebola. I suppose we will soon know whether the virus will be described as air borne because it certainly appears that the CDC is alluding to that with quarantining planes.
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I feel for the latest nurse and her family, but I have to wonder what she was thinking. There are conflicting stories about what she was informed of……could she or could she not travel? I’ve read that she could after contacting the CDC and I’ve seen on the news that she was told to avoid mass transit until the 21 days have passed.
Could the hospital have been more considerate of their employees and not have a nurse, due to be married and set to travel in the near future, not be near the first Ebola victim?
I know they don’t want the public to panic but what is the truth? First we hear that transmission only occurs when symptoms appear. Now they say the chances of the latest victim passing it on to plane passengers and family and Kent State are remote yet she left showing symptoms…..a low grade fever that increased. She didn’t seek treatment in Ohio knowing she had been exposed and the fever was increasing, instead she got back on another airplane…..exposing more people……to come back home first.
There had been talk when Duncan was still alive that he might face charges for knowing he was exposed and lying about it and I wonder if they might bring charges against this latest victim for all her traveling on mass transit.
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I heard that she treated Duncan one of the two times he came to the ER and was sent home. That was a huge mistake and there’s no telling how many others have been infected because of that.
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The planes are being quarantined until they can be professionally decontaminated…..the Air Frontier plane that the nurse traveled on underwent 2 cleanings and returned to service today……just like they decontaminated the apartment that Duncan was in.
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I told a friend of mine, months ago, I was in fear this would enter the US. Now we are sending troops into infected areas, and have 2 new cases in the US, with many more being exposed on planes.
It may just be a “WAR” that takes us out, but not the kind we have always thought of as being deadly due to battle.
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Kindheart, I agree.
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IMO, they should have quarantined all medical staff, family, or anyone that has been in contact with Duncan and anyone they were in contact with. They need to stop all incoming flights from Africa, or perhaps quarantine any passenger wanting to coming into the country for a month. That maybe harsh, but you are going to have people who are not being truthful, and those who may not know they have been exposed.
The nurse that got on the plane with a low grade fever, knowing that another nurse had been diagnosed the day before for ebola, needs to be fired. She should have been quarantined already IMO, but never should have attempted to fly. She not only put others in danger, but her own family. A low grade fever can rise in no time at all. It looks as though we can’t trust people to monitor themselves, so to be on the safe side quarantine them all. Better safe than sorry.
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Presbyterian workers wore no hazmat suits for two days while treating Ebola patient”
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/
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I think it’s a shame, that some have blamed the POTUS, for the presence of EBOLA in the states. BTW, if that hospital, didn’t provide their workers with PPE, then they were asking for exactly what’s going on now. “EVERY” health care facility, is suppose to have PPE and, those who work there, are suppose to know, where it’s located!
Even if you work in housekeeping or dietary, “YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO KNOW, WHERE THE PPE IS LOCATED AND, USE IT IF THE NED FOR IT ARISES!” I ALWAYS double gloved, when doing patient care, even in the absence of some sort of contagious illness. I’ll also admit, those paper gowns, are not very helpful, in the case of EBOLA or AIDS, IMHO. I pray, that they contain this before, it gets out of hand.
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ladystclaire,
Thanks for the comment. The thought that Duncan went to the hospital twice and was not admitted and treated exposes another level of concern for our country. He didn’t have health insurance. Patients are treated differently based on not being insured, or what their insurance won’t cover.
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Scary stuff on C-Span right now. It’s all about Ebola and the CDC. Rep. Tim Murphy is speaking right now.
Yikes!
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Would you please post for us some of the key points being made, kindheart?
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Ebola is tripling every 3 weeks in Africa currently.
There is no way to prevent this from spreading in The US, Europe….etc.
It is now felt Ebola may be passed prior to showing any signs, or fever.
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CDC is predicting possibly 1.4 Million will be infected by January, 2015.
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Dr. Frieden: (CDC)
Ebola is not easy to control. His fear is if Ebola spreads more quickly in Africa, it will affect our healthcare system.
CDC is open to any ideas as to how to help them keep Ebola from spreading here. (That sure don’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling when the teacher asks the student for help!)
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Thanks for posting the information, kindheart.
Not any good news here.
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Yahtzeebutterfly,
All of these reps are real good in stuttering and stammering, toped off with a lot of…………..we think, well maybe, we’re trying, and we’re not sure.
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like they are saying, “We need 20 more years of research.” ????
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I’m right back to praying with you my friend.
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(((Hugs)))
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Robin Robinson (HHS): This is a Biomedical Emergency, much like H1N1.
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Dr. L. Borio (FDA)
This is a tragic, global event.
We are developing trial vaccines as quickly as possible, and be given the authorization to administer them, in some cases, within 24 hours.
These products are in the very early stages of development, and we have no way of knowing if they will help, or possibly hurt those that are infected with Ebola.
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John Wagner (Homeland Security)
1 Million travelers arrive in the US daily, with 280 thousand at our international airports alone.
October 1st, all passengers flying to the US from Nigeria, Guinea and Sierra Leone, were given (tear sheets) with information about Ebola, and screened at the airport.
As of Oct 1, most large, international airports in the US hand out questionnaires concerning possible signs of Ebola, and temperatures are taken.
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Dr. Varga (Texas Health Resources)
(Texas Health Dallas) is known for it’s excellence.
We were the first hospital to care for the first US case of Ebola, and I am sorry to say, we made many mistakes.
We DID NOT properly diagnose Thomas Duncan with Ebola, and our staff was devastated upon Mr. Duncan’s passing on October 8th.
Since then, one of our nurses that cared for Thomas Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola, last Saturday. (She was upgraded to (good) on Tuesday)
Yesterday, a second nurse that cared for Mr. Duncan was also diagnosed with Ebola, and our thoughts and prayers are with her as well.
Both Nina and Amber are extremely skilled nurses, and followed protocol. Therefore, we have no idea how both of them were infected with Ebola.
(Most of his remarks have already been disputed by the Head of Nursing, as far as waste, gowns, and many other factors. Then you also have the second nurse, Amber, who actually flew with a temperature.)
SMH Like I said, scary stuff!
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When the US brought the 2 infected workers back, treated and cured them, it sent a message to the world that “If you have ebola, come here. We have a cure.”
If the U.S. now contains travel where those of other countries are not allowed to enter America for fear of ebola, it will appear as a selfish decision.
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This is crazy! The more I watch this hearing, the more I’m convinced this is going to spiral out of control.
And what about the 3000 military we’re sending over to these areas to build clinics, and enforce local quarantines. Are they going to wear full hasmat suits, and soak each other down in bleach while constructing these buildings?
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Kindheart, I’m watching on MSNBC. There are numerous questions that are unable to be answered. For example, they asked about the 21 days incubation period, but the doctor said 2 to 21 days. They were questioned about why Duncan was not admitted when he had a temp over 101 and told them that he had just visited Liberia, and why nursing personnel were not wearing protective covering even when he had diarrhea and vomiting.
I would like to know what Duncan did in Liberia that exposed him to Ebola.
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Xena,
It was reported that Thomas Duncan actually went to the ER with a temp of 101, but Varga just said it surged to 103, with vomiting and diarrhea, and they sent him home with antibiotics the next morning.
I have heard it reported that Thomas was exposed to Ebola when he carried a young pregnant mother to one of the care centers, in Nigeria. She passed from Ebola shortly afterwards.
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Xena:
” I would like to know what Duncan did in Liberia that exposed him to Ebola.
ANSWER:
On Sept. 15, he helped his landlord’s daughter, who was stricken by Ebola, get to the hospital, but they were turned away for lack of space. Mr. Duncan then helped carry the woman back to the family home, where she died hours later.
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Thanks for the background info. I don’t want to be paranoid, but there is so much not known about ebola and its exposure that I have to wonder where this is going. Each time that a virus has hit America, health authorities tried pinning/limiting it to a certain group of individuals. I remember when they discovered that HIV was in the donated blood supply. Previous to that, American’s were calmed by being lead to believe it was a “gay disease.”
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Cleveland Area Schools Cancel Classes Over Ebola Concerns
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cleveland-area-schools-cancel-classes-over-ebola-concerns/ar-BB9nPeS
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What chemicals are they using to decontaminate apartments, planes and hospital rooms?
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Bleach is one.
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There are approx. 150 people a day arriving from Africa.
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Interesting read, this scientist seems to believe 21 day quarantine isn’t enough.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/21-day-ebola-quarantine-may-not-suffice-study/ar-BB9qdUK
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Thanks for this peni4yothot.
One comment under the article (I haven’t checked for accuracy):
Christopher DeAngelis · Top Commenter · Senior Project Manager at InfraMap Corp
Yes, your skin absorbs it….
Ebola is airborne, according to a new report by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota. Researchers at the university just advised the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that “scientific and epidemiologic evidence” now exists that proves Ebola has the potential to be transmitted via exhaled breath and “infectious aerosol particles.”University of Minnesota CIDRAP scientists are now warning both health care providers and the general public that surgical facemasks will not prevent the transmission of Ebola. According to the airborne Ebola report, medical workers must immediately be given full-hooded protective gear and powered air-purifying respirators. CIDRAP has reportedly been a worldwide leader in addressing public health and safety concerns and preparedness since 2001.
An excerpt from the CIDRAP report reads, “Healthcare workers play a very important role in the successful containment of outbreaks of infectious diseases like Ebola. The correct type and level of personal protective equipment (PPE) ensures that healthcare workers remain healthy throughout an outbreak—and with the current rapidly expanding Ebola outbreak in West Africa, it’s imperative to favor more conservative measures.”
The University of Minnesota report goes on to note that any action which can be taken to “reduce risk” of Ebola exposure should not wait until a “scientific certainty” develops. “The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run,” the CIDRAP report also adds.
The working theory about Ebola transmission currently being uttered by the CDC and the agency’s director Thomas Frieden, is incorrect and “outmoded” according to the University of Minnesota CIDRAP report. “Virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract,” University researchers concluded. Background information detailing why CIDRAP believes the CDC and WHO are function under an outdated mode of thought when it comes to how infectious diseases are transmitted via aerosols is also included in the new report.
We’re screwed!…
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What about all of the people that were in the ER? And all the friends, and public they have been exposed to since then? What about all of the people in the airport, not just on the plane? Did Amber use the airport bathroom, touching the paper roll? How many people will pass, not even knowing they were infected with Ebola, improperly diagnosed with flu like systems………..etc., etc………
Now Dr. Fauci (CDC) just said over 50 other hospital staff are being monitored, and are being asked to contact the CDC if they develop a temp, or show any signs of Ebola. (What about their families? What about the patients they took care of…..)
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I am back to praying.
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Photos they are not showing us (warning…graphic…don’t look unless you are strong)
http://www.nigeriancurrent.com/ck88-news/ebola-aliko-dangote-anap-tony-elumelu-foundations-shell-donate-to-stop-virus-spread
http://absolute-news.com/2014/07/ebola-virus-pictures-images/
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Oh No Yahtzee, these are awful, just horrible.
Please Lord, we ask that you lift them up, give them peace, and let them live forever more in your glory.
We ask this in Your Name Lord. Amen
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Amen and Amen
Thank you Lord for letting us come to you in prayer.
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Obama may call on reserves to deal with Ebola in Africa
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/16/obama-ebola-reserves/17363251/
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The CDC just released new information that the second nurse, Amanda, was feeling sick on Friday, a full day before she flew to Ohio last week. Amanda went to Ohio to finalize her wedding plans, and visited a local wedding shop, and other stores. At least 7 people are now under quarantine in Ohio, and 3 schools there were closed today. Amanda called the CDC with a temp of close to 100, and was told it was OK to fly.
One mistake after another has put how many people at risk??????
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Let’s hope that while in Ohio, she didn’t stay at a hotel or eat at a restaurant.
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It was reported she stayed with family Xena.
Let’s just hope she didn’t cook for them, cut her finger, or one of many other ways the CDC is uncertain, at this point, of how this may be spread. (Seems they change their mind on a daily basis)
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Originally, the CDC stated the Ebola virus could survive in semen for up to 3 weeks after being discharged. Today, a biochemist said no, it would be possible for the virus to last up to 7 weeks?
Can anyone get their stories straight……….this is not Chutes and Ladders we’re playing here guys!
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I read someone that the Doctor who was first treated here was told to abstain from sex for 3 months.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm So I guess there’s no chance of anything……(shall we say…….oooooopsyyyyyyyyy….winding up on the sheets?) Tacky statement, I know, but true, sorry.
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Actually, you are making a good point, kindheart, especially since they are talking about a 3 month abstinence….Perhaps Depends should be worn when dreaming.
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My thoughts exactly my friend! (But I’m just too old to care what I sound like when getting my point across)
Thank you for making what I was trying to say a bit more palatable. 🙂
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🙂
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Thanks for all of these updates, kindheart.
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Not good updates 😦 for sure, but reported a few minutes ago on ABC, and MSNBC.
I have about as much faith in the CDC now, as I do in the Easter Bunny delivering Christmas gifts.
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“as I do in the Easter Bunny delivering Christmas gifts.”
great way to put it
What happens to the ventilation system in hospitals…is each room on a different system?
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I also wonder (since Ebola is found in sub-saharan countries) whether it might be a good idea to keep treatment rooms for Ebola patients at zero humidity.
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From what I understand Yahtzee, rooms that protect against bio-hazards from leaving the area, force air into the sealed room to contain everything on the inside.
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Well, I got my answer. While in Ohio, Amanda stayed with her stepfather.
http://www.cleveland.com/akron/index.ssf/2014/10/tallmadge_home_where_ebola_pat.html
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I am concerned for him now.
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This is scary…..and mainly to the age in which we live. It was suggested to stop all flight to the effected countries in Africa…..won’t work. Think of the age we live in. Fine, say someone, who gets sick, in the effected countries flies to England to visit family and then some of that family now infected now jump on a plane to Orlando, FL to visit Disney World. We might have had a ban on an African country but we don’t have a ban with England….virus still gets in.
Close the borders? Yeah…..how secure have our borders ever been?
To me it we need to bring back the days of quarantine. Been around someone, want to come into the States, etc……have them isolated with a quarantine until the 21 days pass. Make provisions for food deliveries and monitoring of the health….providing ways to take temperature with twice daily call ins or visits. Put all exposed people on no travel/fly lists. Place signs on their homes/apartments/etc.
Not to far in our past we did this for things like scarlet fever and TB. Remember Typhoid Mary? She was twice put into quarantine with the last time for the remainder of her life when she violated the terms of her first release.
Start to prosecute those who do not take the public’s best interest to heart…..like with an AIDS victim who has sex with another and doesn’t tell them.
The CDC screwed up big time when they allowed a nurse who directly treated an Ebola patient with little to no training and without proper equipment to travel and let her out of her isolation status before her time frame was up. Only time will tell how deadly this decision was.
I don’t believe they (CDC, Federal and Local Governments) are taking this seriously, CNN had the dress shop owner where the nurse visited with her family for fittings. She was never told to clean the store….it’s still open. She received little information of the risks and finally told to just take her temp 2x a day. She knew the woman was a nurse but the woman never said she treated the Ebola patient (go back to the public’s best interest). They have closed 8 schools in which woman’s family members had links to but is that enough? Have they taken measures to ensure that the people stay isolated until they are sure they aren’t contagious? Even Duncan’s friends/family were caught out and it was exposed that they needed food and no measures were thought of before that, only after they were caught out and their reason why did food deliveries start.
I pray that it doesn’t get worse but sometimes drastic measures must be taken with something so serious and easily transmitted.
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Absolutely! It bothers me too that the standard being used to detect infection is fever. It’s as if there is no test for ebola, not even a blood test, until the disease is well underway of shutting down the body.
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Even Dr. Nancy Sniederman, from CNN, and camera crews were put on quarantine in Africa. THEY BROKE IT! And when the news found out they had all gone out to dinner……..Nancy apologized, and said: “But, but, but….I feel fine? Sorry, I was wrong.” This is from a doctor who knew one of the camera men already had the virus?!?
I hope she loses her licence to practice medicine!
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I would add, however, that while we don’t have a travel ban with England, I believe that a lot of other countries like England and Germany also have travel bans with the affected countries…so while not foolproof, the travel ban might help. A lot of countries are closing their borders to the ebola threat right now.
That being said, I think a quarantine might work as well, if not better. Don’t see the problem with trying that solution…at this point, don’t see the problem with trying any solution, besides just bumbling around like we are doing.
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Unfortunately the CDC recommendations are bad and it might not be a breach of protocol at all that is the issue. The current recommendations are not sufficient and may cause the infection of more health care workers until they get revised.
Ebola is a BSL4 rated disease. Unfortunately the CDC recommendations are based on BSL2 (not even BSL3) procedures and equipment. Until these procedures change, health workers will continue to get infected.
You can read the full article here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/13/1336165/-CDC-recommendations-are-going-to-kill-health-care-workers
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This site that I am going to provide you the link to, has some information that IMO each of you should read and understand. This article will answer your questions as to whether the virus is air borne or not! This is much more than our government is presently telling us… Please take the time to read this information…
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/ebola-reston-virginia/
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Just finished reading it….yep, airborne.
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Oh Lord Crustyolemothman, that certainly is not going to help me sleep any better tonight.
And I think the worst part of the article is? No one made any effort to let the public know a thing about what was happening, which in many cases, I feel is the same thing that is going on right now.
Thank you very much for posting this.
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kindheart101, The only reason that I found this was that I remembered an article that I had read in a tech magazine many years ago that mentioned this disaster. Now for the real kicker, it was rumored at the time that our own CIA had developed this virus as a biological weapon and it mutilated and got out into the wild from what was supposed to be a controlled test in central Africa… I honestly think our government knows a lot more that they wish to admit…
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I don’t believe that the CIA developed it. There are so many things we still don’t understand about our home called Earth. Some of these diseases come from the far corners of the planet that remained relatively unexplored until populations started to go into their areas. Even AIDS was unheard of until the early 20th century and it too started in West Central Africa.
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towerflower, While I do agree that there are many mysteries to be found in our world that have not yet been discovered, having seen many of the things that our government (CIA included) did in SE Asia many years ago, I fail to have the faith in our government that you do. As I said at the time of the incident that I posted the link to, it was rumored that the CIA was responsible, however it was a rumor and not an admission of guilt on the part of the Government, so with that in mind, I won’t go into a long drawn out argument as to who is or is not responsible. The one thing that we do know at this time is that we have a major problem and it would seem that the government is running around like a chicken with its head cut off….
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“I honestly think our government knows a lot more that they wish to admit…”
or care to let us know about………………….
With just the differences in statements between the CDC, HHS, Homeland Security, FDA, and Texas Health Resource CEO today, at the “House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, aired this afternoon, I totally agree with you.
We are being kept in the dark, about many issues. And everything we are being told is changing daily.
My best hope is they can get this under control……….while they TRY to keep us uninformed, and at the mercy of whatever little bit of information they care to toss our way. (Be it condescending, or half truth)
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Mothman, now I want to read the book. I’m not a medical professional but was raised to believe that whenever I heard the word “virus” that it means it is airborne. If it wasn’t airborne, there would be no need to decontaminate entire planes and houses. Actually, I don’t think there is enough known about Ebola to say for sure it isn’t airborne.
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I don’t want to put this at the bottom of this page near your comment asking for uplifting topics, and so I will put it here:
In NYC
911 dispatchers forbidden from saying ‘Ebola’ on the radio</em
http://nypost.com/2014/10/16/dont-say-ebola-on-the-radio-fdny-to-911-dispatchers/
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Report: Cruise ship in Carribean is carrying ‘self-quarantined’ Texas Ebola health worker
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/17/cruise-ship-carrying-texas-ebola-nurse-refused-entry-in-belize/
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This article has two videos showing how to put on and take off protective gear.
It is amazing how often an assistant sprays his suit and other items as he removes his gear.
In Layers of Gear, Offering Healing Hand to Ebola Patients in Liberia
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Watch the video with this NY Times article…..it will break your heart and shows what people are facing.
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I just watched the video, towerflower.
My heart is crying.
At the same time, I am so moved by the compassion of this ambulance driver…giving his all in his service to the people.
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I have no words Towerflower, just tears. 😦
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Not that we need to hear about anything else, but
Official: Fleas in Arizona testing positive for plague
Monday, October 13, 2014
http://www.naturalnews.com/047229_bubonic_plague_fleas_arizona.html
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The President’s meeting today regarding Ebola.
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I’m overworked, tired of bad news and would like to write something uplifting. Any suggestions?
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Great idea, Xena.
Let’s indulge in these treats while we think of something to suggest:
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Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Hmmm. I’ll take the banana split, please. 🙂
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There goes the diet 🙂
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Hahahahaha! I ate a Klondite bar.
Btw: any livestreaming of Dunn’s sentencing this morning?
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Peni,
The live streaming had Friday freak-outs. All I could get was a word here and there. There’s a new thread open for discussion of the sentencing and I’m looking to see if I can find videos of Jordan’s parents conference.
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TY.
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How about an open comment board to post on for 10/17. “A Happy Place”
Everyone has to post a cute video, something funny, a childhood memory, a special birthday gift, Christmas gift……………anything other than turmoil and grief!
A happy, funny, video filled area to raise our spirits and make us smile.
Find it on Utube……….dig it up from your past………..or make it up!
There is so much to choose from, and so many stories to be shared. 🙂
Just a suggestion.
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Love it!
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And except for Xena having to monitor our posts for the day to make certain we are all smiling, LOL, maybe she could get a little rest?
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There you go!
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Oh what the heck, I’ll give you a true story Yahtzee, LOL
I have very curly, unruly hair. As a child, my classmates were kept at arms length because it was out of control, and wild. As I grew older, I learned how to straighten, and style it, so my children never saw it straight from the shower, or really unruly as they were growing up.
When I was graduating from the 6th grade, our group picture was taken, on the gym’s bleachers…….(in black and white…….ROFL) My light colored hair looked like cotton puffs stuck all over my head!
My grown daughter and I were going through pictures about 15 years ago, and I asked her to pick out which one she thought was me in the 1960’s picture? She searched the picture, looking at every young girl, then pointed at one…………saying………..”Who was this BOZO?”
I roared! She pointed to me………….and we both laughed for hours.
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Oh…..oooh…..that is so funny!! Kindheart!!! I absolutely love that story!
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Off topic;
There are good, interesting opinions expressed in this PBS clip. I’m going to check for when the series airs in my area.
http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/10/what_is_the_whiteness_project.html
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Yes, earlier this week I watched this preview with these people sharing their opinions:
http://www.whitenessproject.org
There is so much work to be done….nurturing and bringing willing White people up to speed as far as the current and past history of what African Americans are experiencing/have experienced.
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Do you think that current experiences have more merit, and people can relate to them easier, moreso than past history? I do, because we can’t change the past but we can heal the future.
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Absolutely, Xena!
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Beautiful instrumental “Hope”
Published on Mar 31, 2014 by Arn Andersson
A new epic piece for this week! This time it is about the strong hope dwelling inside all of us.</em
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“Hope”
BY EMILY DICKINSON
“Hope” is the thing with feathers –
That perches in the soul –
And sings the tune without the words –
And never stops – at all –
And sweetest – in the Gale – is heard –
And sore must be the storm –
That could abash the little Bird
That kept so many warm –
I’ve heard it in the chillest land –
And on the strangest Sea –
Yet – never – in Extremity,
It asked a crumb – of me.
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Just a reminder: Michael Dunn’s sentencing is tomorrow. John Philips does not know if it will be live streamed, but Lisa Bloom will be covering it for MSNBC starting at 9 a.m. EST.
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Oops, just read your post; thx.
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Excerpt from link below:
News4Jax has confirmed that Jordan Davis’ parents will address Dunn in the courtroom after the sentencing. The entire hearing, plus the parents’ statement, will be streamed live on News4Jax.com.
LIVE COVERAGE: Sentencing hearing begins at 10:30 a.m.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/michael-dunns-sentencing-hearing-scheduled-for-friday-morning/29185992
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The reporter in the news video at the link said they will report live at 10:00
(not 10:30)as the article on that same page says??
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The live streaming occur at this link:
http://www.news4jax.com/news/19536214
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might
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Here you go:
Cathy @courtchatter · 2m 2 minutes ago
#MichaelDunn sentencing about to start. Watch LIVE here
http://courtchatter.tv/dunn.htm #DunnTrial
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Live now
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Am watching/listening now. Ron Davis is giving his victim impact statement. 😥 omg these poor people..
And that weak ass apology Done made… ugh..
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Does your live stream keep stopping???
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Did I miss it? None of the live streams seem to be working. If I didn’t miss it, I can open a new thread so we can follow and comment.
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Life in Prison without the possibility of parole, but I don’t know the individual sentences… stupid live stream! 🙂
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ANNOUNCEMENT
Just opened a thread to discuss the Michael Dunn hearing.
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A Butterfly hovers, then lands on each strand,
of the flower that carries, her food of demand.
She kisses each petal, with such tender care,
taking only what’s needed, while settling there.
This beautiful creature, seeks only to live,
who would guess in her travels, more life she would give?
The pollen she needs, is the pollen she spreads,
which will lead to next Springs, gorgeous flower beds.
You give so much,
Thank you Xena.
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Kindheart,
glitter-graphics.com
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Here is a very interesting article. While I don’t particularly like the source or the author, he does give some interesting data to consider. I really wish the press would leave the politics out of this pending disaster, but I suppose they feel the need to blame their political opponents in an effort to relieve their own responsibility for personal actions that they take. This virus is far worse than our leadership would like us to believe, however I do realize that they are attempting to protect us from the panic that would ensue were the whole truth be told…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/six-reasons-panic_816387.html?page=1
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Mothman, you don’t have to convince me. The article is right that we don’t know enough about this strain of Ebola to be comfortable thinking it’s not airborne. I have to find the article, but it’s been reported that another hospital worker from Dallas has self-contained on a cruise ship.
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Mothman,
Found the story about the person on the cruise ship. It also has a video.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/health/us-ebola/index.html
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Ebola scare at Pentagon after woman vomits in parking lot
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ebola-scare-at-pentagon-after-woman-vomits-in-parking-lot/ar-BB9D8Fd
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On my! More and more, I’m reminded of the movie “Outbreak.” What’s the solution for containment — quarantine everyone who has been to Africa? I don’t know, but if that woman has Ebola, the people on the bus will be quarantined and before long, our troops will be building treatment centers here and not just in Africa.
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Xena, It seems like you are a mind reader! I have been thinking of that movie since this whole ordeal began, but just did not want to be the one who mentioned it. It could in some people invoke a irrational fear and create a much worse problem than we have as yet… Concern at this point is warranted, but panic no so much…
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Mothman, what I think about most with “Outbreak” and what we’ve been reading about Ebola, is the part where they asked people to voluntarily come to the treatment center, or hang a piece of white fabric on their door where military personnel would then pick them up and take them to the center. The only difference between what happened in that movie and what is happening here, is that people who might have been exposed and infected are not in one place.
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Xena, Darn, I’m not only getting old, I think senile as well… I intended to ask your opinion of how many of the Army Reserves do you think will go AWOL rather than risk their life to this plague? First we send them to a war that should never have been, and now they are talking about sending them to Africa to fight a disease that has a high percentage of fatalities.. How do we ask our young service members to sacrifice their lives in this way?
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Mothman, I truly don’t think that the Reservists understand the risk because they are being told it is not airborne. As I understand it, they are building treatment facilities which might not be in the general location of those infected, so they might not fear any risk of becoming ill.
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Woman sick at Pentagon does not have Ebola
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/arlington/2014/10/17/ebola-investigation-pentagon/17433031/
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Whew! That’s good to hear.
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Video released of Ebola patient Nina Pham in hospital
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/16/ebola-nina-pham-dallas-health-texas-maryland/17377645/
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Good news:
“Cruise Back in Texas; Ebola Ruled Out”
Excerpt:
On Sunday morning, the cruise ship returned to port here on schedule, and health officials confirmed that the hospital worker had tested negative for Ebola. She and her husband had been taking their temperatures and never showed any fever or symptoms of the disease. They drove home on their own after leaving the ship before dawn. A few hours later, the remaining 4,000 passengers streamed off the ship.
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Madrid (CNN) — Teresa Romero Ramos, a Spanish nurse’s aide who had contracted Ebola after caring for a patient with the deadly disease, is now free of the virus, Spain’s Special Ebola Committee said Sunday.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/19/health/ebola-crisis/
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“Dozens Declared Free of Ebola Risk in Texas”
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That’s good to hear.
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New York, New Jersey Set Up Mandatory Quarantine Requirement Amid Ebola Threat
Christie: New Policy Has Already Been Used At Newark Liberty International Airport
October 24, 2014 5:00 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/24/new-york-new-jersey-set-up-mandatory-quarantine-requirement-amid-ebola-threat/
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May Dr. Martin Salia rest in peace. He gave his life trying to save others.
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