Wife of Man Who Recorded Eric Garner’s Murder by NYC Police Arrested for Assault

The outspoken wife of the man who took the amateur video of Eric Garner’s fatal confrontation with police was arrested Tuesday night in connection with an assault on a woman in Staten Island, according to police.

Ronald Jackson’s blog is on blogspot which does not have an option for reblogging to Word Press blogs.  His article is good and you might want to visit to read the full article he has posted.  It includes a video that reports on the arrests of Ramsey Orta and now his wife, Chrissy.

Ramsey Orta is the man who videoed the police putting Eric Gardner in a choke hold.  The medical examiner has ruled that Gardner’s death was a homicide.

Is there anyway that the public cannot see this as retaliation by the Staten Island police?

 

Posted on 08/06/2014, in Cops Gone Wild and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 43 Comments.

  1. I’d like to know more about the incident although there is no doubt in my mind the police are targeting those who document their abuse and brutality.

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    • Me too, Mindyme. There might be evidence and good basis for the arrests, but my goodness, why put it out in the media unless there’s an agenda attached?

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  2. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    Reblogged “It Is What It Is” …..

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  3. Jueseppi, Barbara, and Horty,
    Thanks for the re-blog. I wish that Harold was on Word Press instead of blogspot. He’s written some good articles that others should know about.

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  4. There are a couple easy ways to share non-WordPress article to a WordPress site.

    WordPress has a bookmarklet that you can drag and drop into your favorites bar and it can share any website to WordPress. In the WordPress dashboard it’s under Tools → Available Tools.

    I mostly use a free tool called Scoop.it that lets you scoop any web article (even non-WordPress) and it can publish it to WordPress. It grabs a photo too.

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    • Glenn,
      YOU ARE PRECIOUS! Thanks so much for the info. I’m going to try it out the next time I see a non-Word Press article that I want to share.

      There is so much information that is good and some that is need to know info. There is no way I can write on everything and when someone has already written a good piece about it, I would like to share.

      I’ve seen your pingbacks to Scoop.it (thanks) but did not know it was a free tool.

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  5. crustyolemothman

    While I do understand why some people immediately think this is retaliation for the video, I think that I will try to keep an open mind about this for now… One of the reasons that I am not ready to jump on the police retaliation wagon yet is the prior criminal history of these people. Did the police retaliate with each and every prior arrest? Do we actually have factual evidence that the events they are charged for did not happen or were committed at or in behalf of the PD? Could we be seeing instead a setup to make the PD look bad (hmmm, if that could be possible). Perhaps when more independent information becomes available I will jump on the band wagon with you folk, until then I think I’ll simply watch and observe…

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    • meh..
      the cops went to a funeral of the guy they’re recorded killing and arrested the person who published the evidence of the killing, not for any crime they witness or heard of at the funeral, but for an old failure to appear warrant they had to actually search for by running his name through the system to find?
      under these circumstances, to do this in such a public way and in front of his kids & neighbors is not only gross and tacky, I find it very intimidating.

      Sounds like a public service broadcast; fuck with the police, we’re gonna fuck you.
      and it’s scary because it’s just that bold! if they wanted they could’ve arrested him later on the Down Low, anytime after or before the funeral would’ve been less obvious.
      but they wanted it to be obvious. they wanted everyone to see what they can & will do even under such public & political scrutiny!

      I’m not saying an arrest was legally wrong cuz idk but I am saying that it sends a message and I think this is serious.

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    • I lost my comment!
      I was saying that the cops went to the funeral for the guy who was killed by cops and arrested the guy who posted the evidence of this. they didn’t arrest him for something cops witnessed or heard of at the funeral, they arrested him for an old failure to appear warrant they had to search for by running his name through the system. they did this not only in front of his kids & neighbors after a funeral for a friend, which is down right tacky and gross, but its basically like a public broadcast system alert!
      it’s like they’re saying if you fuck with the cops, where gonna fuck you.

      they could’ve arrested him at anytime prior or after the funeral on the down low. but they chose to do it then.
      and it’s scary to me that they did this so boldly during all this public & political scrutiny this seems pretty intimidating to me.
      much like the cops are saying look what we can & will do, despite having all eyes on us! we’re untouchable!

      I’m not saying the arrests aren’t legally warranted because I don’t know, and I doesn’t really matter. but I think it’s a message and I think it’s serious.

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      • Word Press has been doing server maintenance. Sometimes we get the “oops” message and sometimes we get the “server” message, but the comment is not lost.

        To Shannon and Mothman,
        I agree with Shannon. One reason my attention is drawn to this story is because we are hearing nothing from the police department defending the arrests. That conveys to me that whatever reporter is covering the police dept. is being partial because the police department wants him/her to be.

        It’s to send forth a message.

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        • crustyolemothman

          Xena, Please don’t misunderstand my position? I think the fools that murdered this man using excessive and unnecessary force should be charged and convicted. My problem is the thought that because a person recorded the attack he should be given a free ride from any criminal act he commits… Did the PD arrest both this man and his wife for criminal acts or were they just innocent people that the PD forced to commit crimes? Perhaps my question is this, how long should they be immune from charges for criminal acts and how serious should the criminal act be before they are arrested and charged? Should we give them a free ride for a specified time or immunity from criminal charges for ever? Do we actually have any factual evidence that the PD is acting out of retaliation? Or are we only acting on emotion at this point? Am I wrong to give the NYPD the benefit of the doubt that we accord to others?

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          • Mothman,

            I wrong to give the NYPD the benefit of the doubt that we accord to others?

            I understand your position. My position is why are the police releasing the information about the arrest of the man who video recorded it? Why did they release information about his wife’s arrest? It’s not whether crimes were committed but why is it necessary to release that information, and yet not a peep from the police department?

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          • crustyolemothman

            Xena, Good morning…

            ” It’s not whether crimes were committed but why is it necessary to release that information, and yet not a peep from the police department?”

            I’m not going to say much more on this subject because I fear that the basic assumption of the guilt of the entire NYPD is based on emotion rather than factual logic. To blame the entire PD on the actions of a few is similar to the assumption that because some black people (or white) commit crimes all black people are criminals. This logic simply does not set well with me. Now let’s look at that statement from your post for just a moment with an open eye. If the PD had not notified the general public about the arrests do you think for just one short New York minute that someone with an agenda against the department would not have? Did they make the arrest as an act of retaliation? Perhaps, but if they had not made the arrests would they have been criticized again by the same individuals for not making the arrest of criminals? It would seem to me that as a department that the NYPD is in a lose lose situation, where no matter what they do in this case they will be accused of wrong doing… Perhaps I am totally wrong in my thinking, and I freely admit it would not be the first time that I was, but for some reason, as I said, it is difficult for me to blame the entire NYPD for the actions of a hand full of individuals. I do have a question about your comment above? Am I reading it correctly in that you first say the PD is bad for releasing the information on the arrests and then complain that they did not release the information? Perhaps my reading comprehension is failing me this morning because of my lack of caffeine due to not finishing my second pot of coffee yet? Please try to understand if I fail to answer or respond farther on this subject it is not out of anger or anything similar, it is simply that I do not deal well with subjects that are based on emotion rather than fact and the last time I was dragged into a discussion of that nature it did not resolve anything and left some with hurt feelings…

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        • crustyolemothman

          Xena, Is this the same story that is being discussed here? Is it in your opinion an accurate report of the reason for the wife’s arrest? I must be missing something in this case that should cause me to blame the PD for their actions? Help? What is it that is out there that will cause me to shift blame from the accused to the PD?

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          • crustyolemothman

            For some reason the link seems to disappear into the blog sphere and did not show up, perhaps on the third time it will?

            http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/wife-of-man-who-filmed-nypd-choke-hold-is-charged-with-assault

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          • Mothman,
            I suppose the best way to express my current position is that it matters not that anyone associated with the event that took Eric’s life, or anyone associated with Eric was arrested. What matters is that an illegal choke hold was placed on Eric; it was witnessed, video taped, and the ME has determined that Eric’s death was a homicide.

            Thinking out loud, (through my fingers typing), I suppose that within my thoughts on this is the proverbial “kill the messenger for bringing the message” that is the reason why the arrests were made public. Whether the people committed a crime is not my focus. Rather, it’s because their arrests were reported that I have to question whether there is an agenda.

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      • crustyolemothman

        Am I reading a different story than you?

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/04/nyregion/after-recording-eric-garner-chokehold-ramsey-orta-gets-charged-with-gun-possession.html?_r=1

        If that is not the person that took the video then perhaps you can send me a link to the correct story? This man was not arrested at a funeral… If I am dealing with a story that is not true and accurate, then I really would like to know…

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        • no I understand not wanting to jump to conclusions about the cops. I don’t believe Eric’s friends should get special treatment either. but he was arrested after the funeral walking away with media and in front of kids & they arrested another friend/relative too for some BS catch all-resisting arrest charge bc obviously they didn’t have an old warrant to use with that guy.
          my problem is not really with the arrests bc i don’t know the specifics of the charges or failure to appear or whatever from 4yrs ago. in fact, it’s when and where and why they were so public.
          and now his wife arrested? and I haven’t even read that story! I just know the statistics of an entire family getting arrested after filming cops killing another family member is quite a coincidence if you ask me..

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          • roderick2012

            @Shannon, the NYPD police are no better than a gang, and you’re correct they are trying to discredit everyone involved in taping the incident because they will be called as witnesses if there is a trial and this is a warning shot to any citizen who may want to take on the NYPD in the future.

            It’s scary because it seems as if the NYPD is all powerful in NY and has more power than the Mayor.

            Scary!!

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          • yahtzeebutterfly

            Shannon and roderick,

            Al Sharpton wants the Federal Government to handle this case:

            The Rev. Al Sharpton, who plans to travel to Washington on Monday to urge the Justice Department to start a civil rights investigation, hastily gathered a news conference in Harlem on Sunday. Mr. Sharpton said that in simultaneously prosecuting Mr. Orta and calling him as a witness in the Garner case, the Staten Island district attorney’s office would create a conflict of interest. “Let the federal government handle it,” he said, “so that there is no question about the objectivity of the investigation.”

            (from the article that crustyolemothman linked)

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          • yahtzeebutterfly

            My personal belief is that NYC does intend to turn this case over to the Feds.

            I think that is why the officer who did the choke hold on Eric Garner has not been charged.

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          • crustyolemothman

            shannoninmiami, I guess that my comprehension about the arrest at a funeral is not working as it should, is the link about the arrest of the individual that filmed the video incorrect because it did not mention his being arrested at a funeral? But instead said he was arrested in front of a known drug house. Perhaps the problem is that I am not understanding the full nature of the complaint that you are making against the NYPD? Please take a moment and read my response to Xena above to better understand my position on this subject.

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            • Ok, I’m wrong!
              my postings are confusing 2 different ppl. the guy who was arrested at the funeral was either Erics brother or cousin or friend, he’s also an anti- police brutality activist. and he was arrested for the old warrant. so I mixed them up because now ar least 3-4 ppl connected to Eric have been arrested!
              this man is up here in the post was the guy who made the recording.
              his wife.

              it was eric’s brother
              and another person who were thrown on a car after the funeral and arrested in front of kids for some issues the cops had to go looking for.

              so your correct when you kept saying are we talking about the same ppl?? lol right, NO we are not talking about the same ppl because the video recorder guy was the just the latest of several ppl connected to Eric that have been arrested.

              this guy’s wife says the cops set him up. and then she was arrested for some misdemeanor assault on someone who criticized her husband. sounds like a completely trumped up charge to me too. the way it’s been reported that her husband was just a block away from where Eric was killed was in a ‘known drug area’ sounds contrived to me.

              honestly I do NOT trust the cops at all. a few years ago I’d have said the same thing about not painting all cops with same brush, but my feelings are based on the fact that the so-called good cops stand by and do nothing when the bad cops do something. they don’t come forward even later and tell on the bad cops. so it’s my opinion that if you don’t stand up for the ppl you’re supposed to be working for and instead hide behind the blue line, you are complicit in the problem.

              there’s just too much police misconduct that is going on for me to believe there are any ‘good cops’ left anymore.

              but I totally respect your opinion and I don’t expect you to change your mind because of me or anyone else. I’m jaded by what I see constantly by the police behaviors that are happening w.impunity there’s no way for me to reconcile the idea these cops who’ve arrested all these ppl associated with a guy one of them killed is a coincidence.

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            • crustyolemothman

              shannoninmiami, Thank you for clearing that up for me, I was truthfully wondering what I had missed. One thing I would like to make plain, even if we disagree, I will always try to respect you as a person and your opinion as valid in your mind… Your friendship is more important than winning or losing in a discussion…

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          • yahtzeebutterfly

            the so-called good cops stand by and do nothing when the bad cops do something. they don’t come forward even later and tell on the bad cops. so it’s my opinion that if you don’t stand up for the ppl you’re supposed to be working for and instead hide behind the blue line, you are complicit in the problem.”

            I agree with you, Shannon…any officer who does nothing when he/she witnesses a fellow officer committing a wrong IS complicit.

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        • yahtzeebutterfly

          crustyolemothman,

          It is the same person. Orta was taken to the station after being arrested that Saturday night about 10:00 p.m. but had not been arraigned by the following Sunday night because they let him go to the hospital for asthma.

          Here is a paragraph excerpt from the article you linked:

          “Police union officials said Mr. Orta’s arrest showed the dangers faced by officers in that area of Staten Island. By Sunday evening, Mr. Orta had yet to be arraigned after leaving the local precinct station house for Richmond University Medical Center shortly after his arrest. The reason for his hospitalization, officials said, was asthma. He could not be reached for comment.”

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  6. Reblogged this on Carolina Mountain Blue and commented:
    This doesn’t surprise me; the easiest way, it seems, for the police to deflect attention from their shortcomings, is to attack the supposed shortcomings of their critics. Case in point: by arresting both the individual who filmed the events surrounding the murder of Eric Garner – yes, I said murder there; I’m simply going by the decision of the NYCME concerning Garner’s death – and his wife, the NYPD are hoping to poison anything either person says should either go before a trial jury in the future.

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    • Matthew,
      Welcome to Blackbutterfly7 and thanks for the reblog and comment. I’m leaning towards believing that the cops are serving up doses or retaliation.

      On another thread where I wrote about Eric and Ethan Saylor, a person commented that the deputies who choked Ethan (breaking his larynx) got off because the witnesses were asked if they saw the choke hold. They did not.

      The cop who choked Eric might realize that what nails his coffin shut is that they can’t pull off a slick maneuver like they did with Ethan in Maryland. There was a witness and that witness recorded the illegal choke hold.

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  7. yahtzeebutterfly

    Two articles worth reading:

    “Eric Garner was killed by more than just a chokehold”

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/what-killed-eric-garner

    New York Police Killing of Eric Garner Spurs Debate on Chokeholds and Filming Officer Misconduct

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/25420-new-york-police-killing-of-eric-garner-spurs-debate-on-chokeholds-and-filming-officer-misconduct

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  8. yahtzeebutterfly

    I want to commend all of the NYPD officers who DO follow ALL of the police regulations and are committed to PROTECTING and SERVING the people of NYC.

    How awful that these good and respectable officers are forced into a position of having to serve alongside officers who do not follow regulations and who are a danger to the public.

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    • crustyolemothman

      yahtzee, Well said and quite true. While it has been said that one bad apple will spoil the basket, I would suggest purging the one bad apple and enjoy the rest of the fruit in the basket would be much more sensible, however I am old and allegedly senile so what do I know, right… 😉

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      • Mothman and Yahtzee,

        I would suggest purging the one bad apple and enjoy the rest of the fruit in the basket would be much more sensible,

        I agree. In all professions there is good and bad. In all professions are the honest, and the corrupt. In all professions are the dedicated, and the lazy. When a profession has authority to touch citizens, and carry lethal weapons, it requires more than just sitting in classes and going to the shooting range. Their hearts and minds need to be geared to making choices that protect citizens first and foremost rather than making an arrest while injuring citizens.

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  9. crustyolemothman

    Yahtzee, if one wishes to be truly objective about a subject he/she needs to actually look at both sides of the discussion. In reading this article could one wonder if the author has an agenda? Or is the article based totally on fact and no bias on the part of the author? I would suspect that this article is based a little bit on both.. Does it point out the problems with the department, yes it does, does it hold the interest of the reader, yes it does, is it totally accurate, maybe. One thing it does not do is provide any information about the thousands of honest hard working folks that place their lives on the line on a daily basis doing what is quite honestly a thankless job… If one were to read this article with out considering the fact that it actually applies to just a small number of people on the NYPD they would automatically “assume” that the NYPD was simply bad to the core… Too bad we only read about the bad things that any police dept does and almost never the good things.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      One thing it does not do is provide any information about the thousands of honest hard working folks that place their lives on the line on a daily basis doing what is quite honestly a thankless job…

      Exactly!

      This is also true of a lot of articles on teachers and the state of education in the U.S.

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      • crustyolemothman

        yahtzee, Because it seems that we are a nation that thrives on hatred, IMO the press feeds us what many (perhaps too many?) of their readers want to hear and ignore the stories that do not feed into the hatred scenario that sells their product… It seems that most of the stories that tell of good deeds by people in power are ignored, yet the stories that even one member out of 10,000 that shows poor judgment (or worse) gets front page headlines. It would seem to me that too often we make important decisions and form opinions with out the benefit of the full story…

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  10. crustyolemothman

    Perhaps this will best explain my stand on this subject. I post this song for the benefit of you folks who find music one of the better ways to express thoughts… This one is quite appropriate for me in this issue….

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      Got it! 🙂

      He said, “If you’re gonna play the game, boy
      You gotta learn to play it right

      You’ve got to know when to hold ’em
      Know when to fold ’em
      Know when to walk away
      Know when to run

      You never count your money
      When you’re sittin’ at the table
      There’ll be time enough for countin’
      When the dealin’s done

      Every gambler knows
      That the secret to survivin’
      Is knowin’ what to throw away
      And knowin’ what to keep

      ‘Cause every hand’s a winner
      And every hand’s a loser

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      • crustyolemothman

        You’ve got to know when to hold ‘em
        Know when to fold ‘em
        Know when to walk away
        Know when to run

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