Ted Wafer’s Trial July 31, 2014

Thanks to everyone who followed tweets and reported.  A special thanks to Yahtzeebutterfly for her hard work. 

The prosecution has rested.

I saw lots of tweets yesterday about Renisha’s alcohol level, but none about the defense getting spanked when inferring that the footprint on the air conditioner was from someone trying to break-into the house.  As the witness said, “Then that’s the person he should have shot.”

Maybe I missed those tweets.

WXZY-TV caught excellent excerpts from yesterday’s hearing, including the witness that said he didn’t investigate a break-in because there was no evidence of a break-in.

 

Posted on 07/31/2014, in Renisha McBride, Trials & Cases and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 192 Comments.

  1. yahtzeebutterfly

    Court reconvenes at 9:00 a.m. this morning.
Here are 2 Twitter sites reporting the trial proceedings:

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    https://twitter.com/idabeewells

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  2. yahtzeebutterfly

    Here are Elisha Anderson’s courtroom tweets about what Xena is referencing in her post above:

    https://twitter.com/elishaanderson

    Exchange between Gurka and defense attorney about a possible muddy footprint on the air conditioning unit at Wafer’s house.

    Gurka said he doesn’t know when it was placed there and can’t say it was a footprint. Defense asked if he called somebody from MSP for it.

    “I don’t know when that footprint was placed there” Gurka said. “Maybe Mr. Wafer climbed on his air conditioner to look at his gutters.”

    Defense: or maybe there was a second person trying to gain entry in the back of the house. Did you ever think of that.

    Gurka: “then that’s the person Mr. Wafer should have shot.”

    He doesn’t have any info that other people were outside the home, he said.

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  3. Jueseppi B.

    Reblogged this on The ObamaCrat™.

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  4. It’s sad but in no way surprising the depths the defense will go to paint Renisha as the aggressor and Wafer as the victim and now we have speculation after speculation from Dr, Spitz who can tell from a photo Renisha had a concussion and that her hand was swollen and it had to be swollen from beating on Wafers door.Yes the good Dr. knows more than the ME who actually did the exam. I do wonder can he tell me when I’m going to win the lotto.. since he can see past, present and most assuredly future.

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  5. crustyolemothman

    Good morning! Hopefully we will see/hear/read a good cross examination of this X-MD this morning… There are several points that the defense has high lighted thru his testimony that while not incorrect are not exactly relevant as they would lead you to believe. The major point is the swelling in the hands, the absolute statement that there was a concussion, and the statement that there is no loss of strength due to intoxication. All of those statements with the exception of the concussion, while true are not totally accurate in application to this case. Let’s see how the pros addresses these issues, or if they do.. IMO these are critical points that might have an impact on the verdict rendered if not addressed… One more point that needs to be discussed with the witness is the bodies response to fear (as he testified to) and the fact that the chemical response to fear by the body is almost exactly the same as its response to anger… This again is a big point that needs to be addressed to counter the statements of the defense that the only reaction that TW had was that of fear, my contention is that he was not in fear but was in fact in a rage filled fit of anger instead when he murdered Ms. McBride…

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      Great summary of important issues we should be looking at today, crustyolemothman!

      Speaking of impairment….they did not take a blood sample from Wafer to see if he had had drinks before going to bed and whether of not that had impaired his reasoning ability and gun use.

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      • crustyolemothman

        While I do agree that blood tests should have been done on the accused, it was not done (I think it might be due to a 4th amendment search problem?), however if I recall correctly it was stated by Gurka that he did not appear impaired in any manner… This leads to a question I would like to have asked of TW if he does indeed take the stand, what prescription drugs has he had prescribed to him over the last several years and what over the counter drugs he takes on a regular basis…

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  6. yahtzeebutterfly

    oralandar brand-wms @oralandar_DN
     17 hours ago
    Spitz continues testimony thursday

    Mandi Wright @DetroitMandi
     Forensic Pathologist Dr. Werner Spitz

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  7. yahtzeebutterfly

    oralandar brand-wms @oralandar_DN
     17 hours ago
    Spitz continues testimony thursday

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  8. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    judge meeting in chambers with defense attys for theodore wafer and prosecutors before the start of testimony this morning

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  9. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    def attys and pros out of meeting with judge..jurors not in courtroom yet..i see dr. kilak kesha, county med. examiner still around..

    will he take stand again after defense’s expert witness, dr. werner spitz, the former wayne co. med. exam?

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  10. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    judge dana hathaway on bench now

    judge taking another case right now. wafer jurors not in court room

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  11. yahtzeebutterfly

    Mandi Wright @DetroitMandi
    Day 6 in the trial of #TheodoreWafer will be underway shortly.

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  12. crustyolemothman

    It might be good to note the missing/unreported $100 bill question is still in play after the ME testified he knew nothing about it. The defense is calling an officer that was on the scene to the stand today, possibly to bring that issue into play in an effort to sling mud hoping to somehow impeach the testimony of Gurka?

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  13. crustyolemothman

    Another good live blog to follow for this trial, I split screen with oralander brand because they each seem to offer a little different posting but both accurate….

    http://www.freep.com/article/20140731/NEWS02/307310104/renisha-mcbride-wafer-porch-shooting

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  14. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    def attys and pros sidebar w/judge..jurors not in courtroom yet

    sidebar over

    court in session for wafer case..def atty putting some things on record now..jurors not in ct room

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      defense admitting some pics..ones of mcbride’s hands and autopsy photos..some of them already admitted

      pros: wants to admit an addtl photo of mcbride on wafer porch and 2 addtl close ups of left hand(that was pic shown in ct wednesday)

      jury coming in

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  15. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    Dr. spitz back on stand..judge asks him couple of ques first

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      about alcohol consumption effect on blood clotting ..how long wld it take for blood to clot..he says few min.

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      • crustyolemothman

        I hope he added the words “in a normal person” to that statement, with the weight problem that Mz. McBride had there is a pretty good possibility that her blood might not coagulate quite as fast as he indicated, ie. diabetes is a possibility…

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      judge asking him mcbride left hand and how blood clots form

      def atty cheryl carpenter begin ques of spitz

      Mandi Wright @DetroitMandi
      Dr. Werner Spitz back on stand

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      spitz says mcbride’s left hand had laceration on it that cld have been caused by her “pounding on something>” he says not caused by car crash

      jurors now seeing pic of mcbride’s right hand which is lying alongside her thigh..cropped photo

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells
      WIT now being shown close-up photo of #RenishaMcBride’s left and right hands; PROS has request re exhibits of their own; Judge asks

      to approach bench; DEF now referring to photos in front of witness, compare them with what is enlarged on overhead screen.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/idabeewell

      DEF asking about photos; PROS objects, saying that DEF is leading WIT, if he can’t see photos.

      DEF asks for PROS to be admonished; says PROS is objecting with long speeches; asks 2 please state objection and not talk

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells

      Judge agrees.

      DEF sorting through photo exhibits.

      Photograph being shown on computer monitor in front of WIT; We cannot see it; possibly #RenishaMcBride’s body on porch;

      DEF asking WIT to explain how in photo right hand of #RenishaMcBride is distinguishable from left hand; DEF asking about lacerations

      <strongMandi Wright @DetroitMandi
      #TheodoreWafer attorney, Cheryl Carpenter, asks Dr. Spitz about photos of #RenishaMcBride hand.

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      • yahtzeebutterfly

        https://twitter.com/idabeewells

        DEF being asked about lacerations on right hand; WIT says he can’t really tell, photo out of focus, dark spot, light

        on certain areas; WIT says in his opinion hand looks swollen; says fingers look like sausages; PROS objects, asks if WIT

        is an expert in photography. Judge sustains the objection. DEF asks, in WIT’s expert opinion, if swelling to if swelling to #RenishaMcBride’s hands

        occurred due to banging on #TedWafer’s doors. WIT concurs.

        DEF asks WIT about car crash of #RenishaMcBride and how that incident WOULD NOT have caused swelling of her hands

        https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

        spitz says swelling on both hands and his opinion is that it did not occur earlier than when mcbride was at wafer’s house

        spitz says swelling to mcbride’s hands not caused during car crash caused hands not affected by deployment of air bag

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        • yahtzeebutterfly

          https://twitter.com/idabeewells

          WIT says because air bag being deployed would hit driver in chest/center, not sides, not hands/arms

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          • yahtzeebutterfly

            My own comment here is to have us recall that the cellphone expert said that Renisha received a call that lasted 6 seconds right at the time of the car accident.

            Thus, it is possible that she was holding her cellphone to her ear when the air bag deployed. That, in my mind, could have caused injury to her hand as well as being what caused damage to the cellphone.

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          • Dannywarrior

            Depending on where the hands are on the wheel….a hand can hit the windshield.
            There is a photo on google images but it is giving me issue to grab it on my device Let´s see if this works, maybe you can paste in in your browser? http://ur.umich.edu/9697/Apr01_97/airbag2.gif

            I would like to know how defense plans on overcoming blood being found in her car, and witness testimony to her hand bleeding at acident scene.

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          • Airbags are notorious for causing hand/wrist injuries. In fact they now recommend that you hold your hands at 9 and 3 o’clock position instead of the 10/2 position because of the airbags.

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          • butterflydreamer2

            Maybe she fell down in the street, or when she was shot her hand struck something on the way down, or she tripped on the stair, or it did occur in the accident in combination of something else that caused it to start bleeding again. His opinion is not good enough, he didn’t see it happen.

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          • Two sides to a story

            People sometimes throw their arms up or thrust them forward in accidents. I have a friend who suffered broken wrists on both hands caused by airbags during an auto accident.

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          • Two sides…..most people who aren’t impaired will do that, they see it coming, they tense up, protect the face…..remember she was highly intoxicated and most likely didn’t see it coming (the crash).

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      spitz says he’s been paid $8,000 by defense for about 45-50 hours of work on the case..(about $175 an hour, def atty estimate)..

      spitz says “i don’t need the money. I have plenty of money” but he says he enjoys the work. His hourly rate, he says, is $400 an hour

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      spitz says he also went to police dept to examine the screen’s door to wafer home and to examine mcbride’s clothes.

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells

      WIT spent 45-50 hours on case; has been to Wafer’s home, police station to examine #RenishaMcBride’s clothes, and police station to

      examine screen doors of #TedWafer. DEF asking about his opinion of autopsy performed by Dr. Kesha.

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      def atty asks spitz about kesha. spitz says if kesha worked for him he wld have had him take the board

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells

      WIT says f1st thing is had he been med examiner @ time of this case he would have insisted Kesha become board certified

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells

      WIT spent 45-50 hours on case; has been to Wafer’s home, police station to examine #RenishaMcBride’s clothes, and police station to

      examine screen doors of #TedWafer. DEF asking about his opinion of autopsy performed by Dr. Kesha.

      WIT says f1st thing is had he been med examiner @ time of this case he would have insisted Kesha become board certified

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      spitz says he also went to police dept to examine the screen’s door to wafer home and to examine mcbride’s clothes.

      def atty asks spitz about kesha. spitz says if kesha worked for him he wld have had him take the board

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      oralandar_DN

      spitz not saying mcbride autopsy incomplete but says “there are some things I wld have done differently.”

      idabeewells

      WIT NOT saying autopsy was incomplete; but would have done several things differently.

      Mandi Wright @DetroitMandi
      Dr. Spitz thinks Dr. Kesha should have been board certified in forensic pathology.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      spitz says mcbride was shot at close range.about two feet. not much closer than two feet or less, he says. kesha said wed. not close range

      spitz says he sees white powder in mcbride’s hair..which is evid. of close range shooting

      sidebar with judge after pros objec. to a show and tell by def atty..

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

      back on record

      spitz talking now about plastic white cup which contains the shotgun pellets..a(about 26..sometimes a little more) found in mcbride’s brain

      spitz says presence of cup in deceased’s body indicates close range but says it can occur also long range.

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  16. crustyolemothman

    One of the curious things about this retired ME’s testimony is that it really did not change the fact that the cause of death was from a gun shot wound to the head. The pronouncement that the wounds (aka swelling) to the hands was caused by the beating on TW’s door could be a problem, especially with her intoxicated state and the possibility she fell and broke her fall just before climbing upon the porch. The distance of the shot only indicates that TW was actually closer to the screen when he fired the shot gun. Last but not least, it is easy to say “I” would have done this or “I” would have done that when one looks at any situation that is not cut and dry, and nothing in this case has been cut and dry….

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    • Dannywarrior

      I agree with your assessment entirely.
      I suppose 8gs is worth paying an expert to say her hand was injured on the door when you face M2. He had to have someone refute the States evidence. His case banks on him feeling he was under seige. (when i read that back to myself, that sounds crazy, but it´s the sad truth)
      At this point I am aching to know what is going through the Jurors minds! They had a question….. I wish those tweeting would tweet more about how the jury is reacting to some testimony. Do they seem interested, taking notes?…those sorts of things

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  17. crustyolemothman

    “Spitz said that as a forensic pathologist, anything he says for the purpose of indicating to him his opinions, is scientific. It may not always sound scientific because forensic pathologist take into consideration not only the autopsy and the wounds, but the entire circumstance.”

    I hope the pros proceed to make it clear that the circumstance in this case is actually subjective based only on the words of TW…. I think if the pros respond to this correctly that statement will damage the defense wittiness credibility…

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  18. yahtzeebutterfly

    I think that the prosecution is doing a great job at impeaching (rendering it no good) Dr. Spitz’s conclusions and the manner in which he reached them.

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  19. yahtzeebutterfly

    Court adjourned for lunch for one hour.

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  20. just waking up and arriving to the party — thanks yahtzee for the record. (also — i find it easier to look at my home page and see the tweets of the journalists i am temporarily following instead of having several twitter windows opened. just thought i’d pass that on if it helps.)

    so, the good duckter has to retract some important statements. i shall call him duckter because he is a quack, quack, quack, quack. 😉

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      Faux,

      Do you mean that I can divide my home page into four panels and watch 3 tweet windows + have Xena’s page open in the fourth panel?

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      • no, just look at your home page and the tweets of all these people will be there in one place. it helps if you do not follow a lot of people, which i do not. after this trial, i will be unfollowing these folks. once you have all of their stuff in one place (your twitter home page) if you want to look at say a long string of tweets from just one of them you click on their names and it will take you to their page, which is what you are looking at now.

        obviously if you are following 300 people plus kim kardashian, this won’t work so well. i have 60 people that i follow regularly and it is not interfering with the trial coverage. xena’s page would have to be in a different tab of course, but all the twitter stuff can be in just one other tab.

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        • yahtzeebutterfly

          Thanks, faux! 🙂

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        • crustyolemothman

          fauxmccoy, good morning… now if I could just figure out a way to auto update the posts here and eliminate the use of my f5 button… Of course, I’m cheating by opening more than one screen and sizing to fit my screens… allows me to keep two twitter feeds open at once and also this blog and Leatherman’s as well. but still have to refresh to keep comments semi current here and there…

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          • i used to have to do something similar. when there is video now, i can stream it to the TV using chromecast which means one less window to be open. with this trial, i have found, sadly, that neither twitter nor the blogs i follow are beyond my ability to keep up with simultaneously. that is i read twitter for 10-15 minutes then come check the blogs and realize i have not missed much.

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          • crustyolemothman

            The two twitter feed that I follow are not too difficult due to only one of them allowing live comments other than the reporters. The other I have open for amusement because of the supporters of TW and their ridiculous claims in his support when they don’t even know what his claims are as yet, but only the claims made by his attorney.. The more I watch the defense attorney the more convinced that Don West has had a sex change done and is now wearing a skirt… Ok, bad joke, or is it? 😉

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          • sorry, could not reply to your joke below… yes, ‘dawna’ west it is!

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  21. Dannywarrior

    Seeking more info. about Spitz´s testimony I was forced to read Wafer defender @trialfile feed. I just ignore the personal commenting on the case. But they provided more testimony than the other´s that I find interesting for the impeachment Spitz
    >When asked by State how blood was present in car, Spitz testified that it was a nose/nasal injury. (how he provided that opinion IDK)
    >Spitz testified the crack in the winshield was from Renisha´s forehead. (how he determined this as well IDK)

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  22. some lunch time listening in honor of an excellent cross exam of likely the best witness the defense will produce by assistant DA Athina Siringa 🙂

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  23. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    court back in session..jurors not in yet

    no court tomorrow

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  24. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    siringas cross exam spitz about his conclus. that mcbride shot at about 2 feet and white powder and “other manifestations” on her hair

    https://twitter.com/idabeewells

    WIT says presence of “filler,” “buffer,” white powder from shotgun blast and “cup” that holds ammo, on #RenishaMcBride’s face, hair.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      https://twitter.com/idabeewells

      WIT says his determination it was close range was because of that, and that gunshot residue present in wound; pellets

      bunched, almost “ball like” in wound which caused edges of skin to tear

      PROS directing WIT to his own textbook, section on close range gunshot wounds, reads underlined section i could not phtgrph

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  25. crustyolemothman

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  26. yahtzeebutterfly

    I really appreciate all of you analyzing the proceedings that we are getting from the reporters’ tweets.

    Thank you SO MUCH! 🙂

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  27. Good Afternoon everyone!

    I was catching up on comments and noticed that Yahtzee mentioned not seeing her comments after posting. I found several that went to moderation. There are times when Word Press will burp when several comments are posted with links within seconds of each other, or otherwise. It’s kinda unpredictable at times.

    Anyway, I’m here and trying to resolve the issue that Flash continues to crash, but I’ll keep an eye on the Admin side for comments going into moderation.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      Xena, those of mine that went into moderation, went in because I had too many links in them.

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      • Thanks Yahtzee. I suspected it had something to do with links. There’s still a problem on my end — I’m receiving duplicate email notifications of everything connected with Word Press, including new post notifications of other blogs.

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  28. crustyolemothman

    It would seem to me that Dr. Spitz has invited TW to testify in his own defense with this statement:

    “Spitz said Wafer is the person who is best able to speak about McrBride’s state of mind because he was the last person to see her alive.

    “He can describe best how she looked,” Spitz said.”

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  29. oralandar brand-wms ‏@oralandar_DN 1m

    this whole case is a case about alcohol, says spitz.

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    nope, the shotgun had nothing to do with it. nice try, duckter!

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    • Dannywarrior

      Great minds….
      Is he saying TW KNEW Renisha was drunk?

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    • crustyolemothman

      fauxmccoy, I started to comment about that statement, but it was so absurd that I just could not do it… I guess in his opinion Mz. McBride committed suicide by getting drunk/high and then having an auto accident and finally by some act of God stumbled up upon TW’s porch and inviting him to shoot her in the head with what he though was an unloaded shot gun accidently while defending himself from a home invasion… Yes that should pretty well sum it up, Not guilty, everyone now go home…. NOT!!!!

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  30. dr. spitz obtained his medical license in the days when doctors were considered gods. he sounds as if he still believes it himself.

    mind you, i am very grateful for the gifted docs who have twice saved me from an early demise, but newer generations of docs, for the most part, realize that they are gifted, but do not have the same ego issues as older generations.

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    • crustyolemothman

      fauxmccoy, one could also not help but to wonder if his mind set is still in the “Jim Crow” days of this nation…

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      • it is anyone’s guess, really.

        i know that my dad was a brilliant CPA who gave up his license at 70. my mom was a briilliant RN who gave up her license at 76, although she had not been performing hands on care for at least 20 years.

        i tend to respect folks more when they know that their age can become a detriment to their work. i obviously have no issues with continuing to perform professionally into the 70s, but 87 seems a bit old and out of touch to be doing what this guy is doing.

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        • Faux. I agree. For some professionals over 70, like Spitz, their greatest accomplishment is having mentored someone else who can take over their shoes, so to speak. Science is something that changes, transforms, learns more, and depends more and more on certain tools to investigate.

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          • thanks xena — my mom clearly kept up the necessary CE credits, but at 76 felt she could no longer. for my dad, keeping abreast of every single change to IRS code is a daunting task and he let his license go a bit earlier, because he knew his memory was fading from it’s former glory.

            my point, and i think you get it, is it is the wise person who knows when their age works against them be it with driving or professional ambitions. i do love and value my relationships with folks much older than i — it is the chance to soak up whatever wisdom they choose to impart. unlike many of my friends, i decided at a young age to pay attention to old farts because i could learn a lot from them. (oh, i did just get my AARP app in the mail, so consider myself a neophyte in the old farts club, but still learning from my elders.)

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            • Faux, if you just got your AARP, you are young.

              I remember the days of ledgers and pegboard accounting methods, and when Lotus 1-2-3 was first introduced in the days of DOS. Left-handed people could operate the calculator with their right-hand while writing with their left hand. I remember having a competition once with a left-handed accountant to see which of us could balance a column faster. LOL!

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            • trust me, i did a whole lot of manual bookkeeping for the man on his trusty old olivetti from the mid 70s onward. it was the best paying job in town, for me.. he never did computerize. i know the old days 🙂 in fact, i prefer them to things such as quickbooks etc. they claim that ‘anyone can do it’ and that is just the problem. anyone can, regardless of knowledge of real accounting or bookkeeping. i’ve seen a whole lot of garbage come out of programs like that.

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            • Faux,
              Oh yeah. We can relate. Quickbooks and TurboTax have gotten many people into trouble.

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  31. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    court back in session: looks like defense firearms expert here to testify

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  32. yahtzeebutterfly

    https://twitter.com/oralandar_DN

    david balash, a firearms expert..crime scene invst. retired MSP lt. det. on stand now

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  33. Spitz paid about $8,000 by the defense to be a witness. I don’t know — watching the video, Spitz appears head strong, but not credible.

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    • yahtzeebutterfly

      Thanks for posting this, Xena!

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    • butterflydreamer2

      Is he stating he shot her because he was in fear for is life, claiming self-defense or that he didn’t mean to shoot her, it was an accident?

      I can’t get past the point that someone in fear for their life would take an unloaded gun open a door, to confront three people who he thinks is breaking into his house and could be armed.

      If he stating it was an accident, he didn’t know the gun was loaded, how can he claim self defense. It sounds as if he wasn’t in fear for his life, he didn’t intend on shooting her, he didn’t know he had a loaded gun. I don’t consider that self defense, he caused the death.

      I am not clear to what his claiming, and so far have not heard anything that would render a not guilty verdict.

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      • @butterflydreamer who says

        Is he stating he shot her because he was in fear for is life, claiming self-defense or that he didn’t mean to shoot her, it was an accident?

        he has claimed both and therein lies the problem. if he gets on the stand, which he basically must for an acquittal, he will be asked every prosecutor’s wet dream of a question “so were you lying then or are you lying now?”

        as the defense is going, i don’t know how they can conclude without calling wafer and it would be the biggest mistake they would make.

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  34. crustyolemothman

    Patrick Muscat, an assistant Wayne County prosecutor, is questioning Balash on his accreditation. Balash said he is not accredited to do crime scene reconstruction.

    by Gina Damron 1:41 PM

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  35. uh oh — supposed defense expert was not qualified to analyze blood spatter and now admits he has no current credentials. this is interesting to say the least.

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  36. yahtzeebutterfly

    Coming down here for fresh air after my last post. *tears*

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  37. ignore the time stamp in my posts, they are in chron order, i am altering it from the reverse chron order of twitter feed

    oralandar brand-wms ‏@oralandar_DN 34s
    balash says wafer is left handed. balash holding a long metal object at 60 inches. the shotgun not being used

    dabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 3m
    WIT
    holding a photo of #RenishaMcBride’s feet @ the door of #TedWafer’s house; WIT says in his

    idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 1m
    opinion, #RenishaMcBride fell where she was shot at; “if you stood her upright,” she’d be where she was shot at, in so many words

    oralandar brand-wms @oralandar_DN  ·  18s
    balash about to demon. how wafer was holding his shotgun toward screen that nov. 2 morning

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    • Mandi Wright ‏@DetroitMandi 55s
      FYI Balash is using golf club to use to demo #TheodoreWafer gun. #RenishaMcBride

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 1m
      DEF asks WIT to demonstr how #TedWafer would’ve shot #RenishaMcBride if the screen insert was in place in door pic.twitter.com/v6cOprb3Uw

      oralandar brand-wms ‏@oralandar_DN 1m
      balash says if screen had been intact wafer wld have had to hold the shotgun above his head and at a downward angle in order to shootmcbride

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 2m
      #TedWafer is also left-handed; WIT also gives his opinion that the screen insert was also down in the screen door.

      Mandi Wright ‏@DetroitMandi 2m
      Balash expert opinion that #TheodoreWafer screen was out and this was his position when he shot #RenishaMcBride pic.twitter.com/yBDz3vPvnF

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 2m
      4-5 inches lower than the floor of both the screen and front doors on Wafer’s house.

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 3m
      #RenishaMcBride was wearing some boots on the morning of Nov 2; she was also standing on the porch/stoop, which is approx

      oralandar brand-wms ‏@oralandar_DN 3m
      says screen not in its place and hole in the screen at 53 inches

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 2m
      WIT is using a golf club in place of #TedWafer’s shotgun. Wafer is six feet one inch tall, #RenishaMcBride, five feet four inches tall.

      Mandi Wright ‏@DetroitMandi 2m
      Balash steps off stand to demonstrate how he thinks #TheodoreWafer was holding gun. #RenishaMcBride pic.twitter.com/ItrgJGMRkM

      idabwellsinstitute ‏@idabeewells 2m
      DEF asks WIT to demonstrate, in his expert opinion, how #TedWafer was holding shotgun when #RenishaMcBride was shot pic.twitter.com/Xn8zkBtCW3

      oralandar brand-wms ‏@oralandar_DN 5m
      he said he used the height of mcbride (about 64 inches) and wafer’s height.

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  38. crustyolemothman

    Xena, You might want to start a new post, this one is getting so long that it takes quite a while to refresh? Perhaps at the next break?

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  39. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

    A new thread is now open to continue reporting and discussing today’s trial. It was requested by mothman because this one has gotten long and is taking longer to refresh.

    Please continue at:

    https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/ted-wafer-trial-july-31-2014-afternoon/

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  40. yahtzeebutterfly

    To Renisha’s parents and loved ones,

    May you get some comforting rest this weekend. Thinking of you and sending prayers your way.

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