Zimmerman v. NBC – Motion to Dismiss

WARNING: This article contains images and words that some might find offensive.

Reading NBC’s motion to dismiss was fairly easy. Trying to make sense out of Zimmerman’s reply was not so easy.

NBC Universal has petitioned the court to dismiss Zimmerman’s lawsuit for four reasons;

(1) he has failed to comply with Florida’s retraction statute, which precludes his claims with respect to one of the five broadcasts he challenges;

(2) he is a public figure who cannot carry his burden of demonstrating, by the clear and convincing evidence required by the First Amendment, that any of NBC’s reports were broadcast with a high degree of awareness of their probable falsity, or, indeed, that they are false in any material respect;

(3) he cannot demonstrate that the NBC broadcasts caused the debilitating damages to his reputation and well-being that he claims are attributable to NBC; and

(4) he has, for these and other reasons, failed to state a claim for intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Just a few thoughts …

If the person claiming defamation names a party as defendant who was not notified to retract, that party cannot be sued. In their motion to dismiss, NBC raises a good argument on that issue. Zimmerman’s attorneys will need to petition the court for leave to file an amended complaint if they want to cure that deficiency.

It is Florida, and I am unfamiliar with most of Florida’s Rules of Civil Procedure. However, when it concerns motions to dismiss or motions for summary judgment that are filed before discovery, there is a general understanding that I’ve learned. That is, if the party who did not file to dismiss the case wants to conduct discovery, it has to request the court to stay the motion to dismiss before filing a reply to the motion to dismiss.

There is also a general understanding that when responding to a motion to dismiss or motion for summary judgment, that the party cannot rely on allegations in their complaint as evidence that a genuine issue of material fact exists. When a genuine issue of material fact is disputed, courts deny motions to dismiss and for summary judgment so a jury can decide the issue. Beginning around page 68, Zimmerman’s lawyers rely on his complaint as evidence that a genuine issue of material fact exists. That’s a no-no that can have that entire portion of their pleading stricken or that issue denied by the court. Yes – the court can grant in part, and deny in part.

Based on the reply filed by Zimmerman’s attorneys, they argued that they needed to conduct discovery and amend his complaint, but did not ask the court for that relief.

Some background;

George Zimmerman is suing NBC for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress. His lawsuit is based on his NEN call that was edited by NBC. Personally, I did not hear that edited version. I heard the full call. What caught my attention about Zimmerman’s NEN call is when Zimmerman said “he ran,” and the sound immediately changed, indicating that Zimmerman was outside and possibly running. The dispatcher heard the same and asked Zimmerman, “Are you following him?” in which Zimmerman replied, “Yeah.”

My first thought when hearing that Zimmerman was suing NBC for editing his NEN call, causing the public to believe he is racist and putting his life in jeopardy, was WHAT?!?!?! Isn’t this the man who abandoned his home, job, and went into hiding the day after he killed Trayvon Martin? Nothing that NBC reported in March 2012 is responsible for what Zimmerman did on February 26 and 27, 2012. NBC may have taken Zimmerman’s words out of context, but that is not what resulted in him going into hiding.

Isn’t this the man who avoided arrest by claiming Florida’s stand your ground as his defense? And, isn’t this the man who was arrested after Angela Corey’s office investigated and found sufficient evidence to charge him with 2nd degree murder? Nothing that NBC reported is responsible for that.

Zimmerman stood trial, and the prosecutors did not charge him with racially profiling Trayvon Martin. In fact, Judge Nelson ruled that the term “racial profiling” could not be used at trial. On July 13, 2013, a jury of 6 women found Zimmerman not guilty. So, what are his damages?

Zimmerman’s attorneys have filed an 80 page reply to NBC’s 55 page motion to dismiss. Much of it regurgitates other portions. They include portions of the transcript of Zimmerman’s NEN call, but just like Zimmerman did with investigators, they omit that Zimmerman CHANGED HIS MIND after not knowing where the kid was, and DID NOT agree to meet the cop. Rather, he asked for the cop to call him and he would tell the cop where he was.

As another matter of interest, remember that Mark O’Mara withdrew his representation of Zimmerman from this case. Some assumed that Lorna Truett, the woman who appeared with O’Mara and West at Zimmerman’s trial, would take over for O’Mara in the lawsuit against NBC. She didn’t. Local counsel on the case is the Didier Law Firm.

Their website says:

“The Didier Law Firm is a Florida-based trial law firm specializing in the litigation of complex auto accident, truck accident and product liability cases. The vast majority of our cases involve severe bodily injury, spinal cord injuries, traumatic brain injuries, and wrongful death.”

In their reply for NBC’s motion to dismiss, Zimmerman’s lawyers contend that he is not a public figure. I tend to disagree. Zimmerman voluntarily made himself a public figure when he pulled the trigger, firing a hollow-point bullet into the heart of an unarmed 17-year old, and went into hiding. Whatever his motivation was for doing that, he cannot infer that his decision was premature, push the clock forward and blame NBC. Zimmerman made himself a public figure when his brother, dad, and friends Joe Oliver and Frank Taaffe agreed to media interviews where they presented George’s story.

Zimmerman’s lawsuit holds NBC responsible for giving the public the impression that Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his race. Its motion to deny NBC’s motion to dismiss goes into lengths trying to hold NBC accountable for public perception. One would think that Zimmerman and his attorneys think that people limit their lives to television sets AND watch ONLY NBC.

NBC raises its argument that;

“Even assuming that Zimmerman has sustained all of these damages, he simply cannot carry his burden of proving that they were caused by the manner in which NBC edited or characterized the statements he made during the Call.”

I agree.

Was the word that Zimmerman said “punks” or “coons”? That is answered by the hearers and not because of anything that NBC reporters might have stated. Each person can listen and decide. What I find with Zimmerman’s lawsuit is that it stereotypes that everyone who doesn’t believe in Zimmerman’s innocence formed that opinion because they heard the tape edited by NBC. It stereotypes that everyone who doesn’t believe in Zimmerman’s innocence formed that opinion on a belief that Zimmerman is a racial bigot.

This is not limited to what those believing in Zimmerman’s guilt hear, but also in what those who support Zimmerman hear.

Here. Let’s do an experiment. Imagine that you did not follow the George Zimmerman case. You did not watch the news – never heard NBC’s edited tape of Zimmerman’s call to the police reporting a suspicious person. You were not on blogs or reading the comment sections on internet news sources about the case. Now, close your eyes and count to ten before opening them.

(10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2. 1)

Imagine not knowing anything about George Zimmerman. Read the following and decide what impression you get from George Zimmerman’s supporters, (and particularly one who takes credit for being George Zimmerman’s main supporter and defender, since February 2012), regarding whether race played a role in what he did the evening of February 26, 2012.

Support

Coon Hunter

Traycoon2

Traycoon

Racist death threat

 

 

Planet of the Apes

 

 

From comments sent to this blog:

“Niiiiice. LEAKIN’ PANTIES!
Trayboon as it turned out had missed ON PURPOSE nearly 60 days of school from late Aug to Feb!!!!! The dunce failed the FCAT. Unbelievable.”

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And, in response to wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Hanukkah, a George Zimmerman supporter sent the following;

Otherwise Known As David the Great
gravatar.com/stanyergroundx
piercyfacebook@hotmail.com
(Redacted)
Submitted on 2013/11/28 at 4:08 amactually twat lips the true evil are dumbshits like you and the fucking retards who subscribe to this toilet paper rag ad you stupid fucking racist animals are still demanding the lynching of a man who was proven 100% innocent in a court of law. what you negroe savages are doing is evil of the highest degree. Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Hanukkah 2013

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In response to a report of O’Connor’s blog regarding George Zimmerman’s arsenal of guns;

Otherwise Known As David the Great
gravatar.com/stanyergroundx
piercyfacebook@hotmail.com
(Redacted)
Submitted on 2013/11/27 at 9:44 pmHey dumbshit delusional twat lips…if you dumbass delusional nigger savages listen to the scheibe 911 call the dumb blonde bitch tells dispatch the shotgun was unloaded the entire time George Zimmerman’s Guns

And, another demonstration of calling Trayvon a “coon” in a comment sent to this blog;

Otherwise Known As David the Great
gravatar.com/stanyergroundx
piercyfacebook@hotmail.com
(redacted)

god damn you are both stupid and a delusional liar 1) Omara flat out says right here he does not expect payment and 2) george has every right to sue tracy, sybrina, and the traycoon foundation to recover costs after traycoon chimped out and attacked

 

If Zimmerman’s supporters do not believe that Trayvon’s race had anything to do with Zimmerman ‘s decisions and actions the evening of February 26, 2012, why do they consistently denigrate the Black race when supporting Zimmerman?

Based on the foregoing, created and/or written by George Zimmerman’s supporters, what impression do they give to you about George Zimmerman?

More importantly, since George Zimmerman and his brother follow the aforementioned, dedicated supporter on Twitter, and if they do not agree with his perception that George profiled and killed Trayvon because of his race, why haven’t they publicly denounced that person? Why haven’t they publicly apologized to Trayvon’s parents for the racial humiliation they endure from George’s supporters?

It is shameful that Zimmerman accuses NBC of what his supporters perpetrated and continue to perpetrate and provoke.

NBC, please, zealously pursue this case.

(NBC’s Motion to Dismiss, and Zimmerman’s Reply, have been added to the right border of this blog under Documents.)

Posted on 05/04/2014, in Cyber-bullying, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Justice For Trayvon, Trials & Cases and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 200 Comments.

  1. Xena,

    Your outstanding article is VERY logical and on point!

    (((APPLAUSE!)))

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    • Yahtzee,
      Thank you for your humbling compliment. It’s my personal experience. Zimmerman’s supporters did not and still do not want to talk about the case — they want to denigrate the Black race.

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      • Zimmerman’s supporters did not and still do not want to talk about the case — they want to denigrate the Black race.

        I am horrified and disgusted by those hateful, racial slurs!

        What repulsive, depraved slurs he sent to you personally, Xena. My heart aches.

        And, then his evil in portraying Trayvon, Tracy and Sybrina as he did! So awful!

        Tracy and Sybrina have my admiration. They have class, dignity, and steadfast determination.

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        • Yahtzee,

          Tracy and Sybrina have my admiration. They have class, dignity, and steadfast determination.

          Yes, and people should have learned by now that humiliation and demeaning is not going to stop them.

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        • You are correct, Xena. They will always stand up for and pursue truth, justice, and equal rights.

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  2. His supporters comments.. so hard to stomach… One is known by the company they keep.

    Thank you for this very well put together article!!

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    • Mindyme,
      Remember our days on Yahoo? It taught me then that Zimmerman’s supporters put the racial yeast in the batter and until this day, they continue stirring it up.

      And, I still want to know that with Zimmerman in hiding, how is anyone getting threats to him?

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      • Oh Yes, I do. Even when the number of his supporters dropped massively, the ones that still did support him were the worst of the worst and the most rabidly racist.

        I doubt anyone is still threatening him. I really do. If anyone seriously wanted him dead, he’d be dead.

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        • The FBI and the DOJ have investigated all threats to the killer and if any threats were true or imminent, there would have be arrests. Guess what, NO arrests. Go figure.

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          • Before an investigation into threats there would’ve had to have been a complaint? no one, not even the pig has made a formal complaint about threats. and whining to the media for sympathy and more donations doesn’t really count do they?? LMAOOOOOOOO!!

            I threaten to stand my ground on sight, on zimmerman’s head, publicly on twitter, but zimmy doesn’t seem worried…

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        • mindyme,

          I doubt anyone is still threatening him. I really do. If anyone seriously wanted him dead, he’d be dead.

          Yes. He trusts fast food workers not to poison his food. He trusts hotel workers not to make a call and tell others that he’s there. Even while awaiting trial, he had no problem going to O’Mara’s and West’s new building everyday.

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      • roderick2012

        Xena: And, I still want to know that with Zimmerman in hiding, how is anyone getting threats to him?

        Yeah Piglet was so afraid for his life that he felt the need to leave his home and rescue the passengers in that overturned SUV.

        Complete lying POS!!

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  3. Outstanding! Will HE ever go away!!?

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  4. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    Will this MAN ever go away?? SMH …

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  5. Thanks Xena!
    In Florida when a case is dismissed on summary judgment ( which means no facts in law or case are available to be argued) loser pays attorney fees if asked for by winner. Some cases are not allowed to be dismissed ( professional mal) under Florida law but corrupt judges and a insider attorney occasionally allow this.

    They fired the reporter and acknowledged their error so I can’t understand any lawyer taking this case. If they do win, they better make sure the check is sent to their office if they wish to be paid. Remember that little Carmax class action suit? Tubs opted out, hired an out of state lawyer who flew in for his ( tubs) own deposition which tubs was a no show. However, Carmax lost and their lawyers mailed check to tubs in error. His lawyer was ill and did not follow up on his share of the 16k. Tubs kept entire amount. That clever tubs.

    When they found and interviewed this attorney, he just said he didn’t remember the case and had no wish to remember tubs.

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    • 2dogsonly. It was the Aames case. Zimmerman was represented by a law firm who withdrew, then one lawyer of that firm named Pantas represented Zimmerman. The agreement was that George would pay Pantas from any proceeds from the case. Aames filed for bankruptcy and the bankruptcy trustee settled the case. It was the trustee that sent the check to George in July 2011. George didn’t tell his attorney, who was filing quarterly reports in the case.

      The trustee told the attorney and on Good Friday, April 2012, that attorney filed a report in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court reporting George’s actions in July 2011. It’s the same weekend that George launched his website begging for money for a “legal defense fund.” Turns out that he also left the Osterman’s that weekend. He had not been arrested and needed no “legal defense fund”. I’ve wondered if that filing in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, stealing money from his attorney, is what actually spurred the beg website.

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      • It sure seems to me that GZ was in trouble before him killing Trayvon & had other reasons to be running & hiding! There is so much missing in this GIANT PUZZLE in my mind that I hope some day we will get some answers to.Why would Shellie be in a big enough fight with him that she left the home,but this was kept QUIET?! Too many neighbors are LYING & its not about the value of their homes going down,etc.I do know that Ma Zim was paying their rent,we got that under oath!

        I have read all of the legal documents until I am zoned out,now I need to process them!! Xena GREAT work as usual.I wish you were sitting next to me explaining things so I didn’t have to reread certain things!

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  6. Insulting … that his man has the balls to do this. But, anyway, that’s what he has always shown.
    Also disgusting are those people who write, tweet and meme these awful things. But then again …. there will always be hard-headed ignorant people w/o a heart. A sad reality …. SMH ….Well done!!

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    • Hey Horty! Based on my experience, I thought the case was about Florida’s stand your ground law until I read comments posted by Zimmerman supporters. They could not stand that two middle-class parents had the nerve to think they could get attention to what happened to their child. When Rev. Sharpton became involved and also used his MSNBC program to talk about it, Zimmerman’s supporters took that to mean that it is too much power for Blacks to have. They demeaned Sybrina, a woman who worked for Miami-Dade County for over 20 years, and said she was on welfare. They mocked that people donated at the rallies. (If it takes money to seek justice, it was okay for Zimmerman to take donations and pay his debts, but wrong for Sybrina and Tracy to receive donations.)

      I could go on and on with the double-standards.

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  7. Jueseppi B.

    Reblogged this on The ObamaCrat™.

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  8. “punks or coons” or
    This case is not about race…..at least not the minority one

    “Punks”is that dog whistle ( looked up what you meant 😉 but punks is only slightly less obvious racist than ” coons”.
    Professor over at Whonoze (who taught audio) diagrammed it showing it had to be ” coons”

    Yet, O’Mara just hammered Rachel’s statement ” creepy ass cracka” as OH MY GOD!!! that is so racist.. Cracka isn’t race specific and there’s an entire restaurant chain with this word that draws people in on image of yummy country food being served.

    Judge Nelson refused to allow this case to be about race…..what she meant was she will not allow the case to be about her race and now we know BDLR had to agree to Rachel being slammed with this word and it’s shiny brand new definition per Judge, BDLR and defense. Court tactics will involve redefining the word ” cracka” from trailor trashy, uneducated but cooks like a mofo to not sure what but something white folks fear.

    Even though we assign the word to delicious food and build a restaurant chain indicating this word means biscuits n’ gravy n’ southern food to everyone in the world…with exception of Sanford jury.

    Getting those sticky wicket issues swept under the rug by state with Judge beaming down allowed O’Mara to say : thanks folks…we’ll take it from here”. Cause we always do.;-(

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  9. Two sides to a story

    Not sure who the bigger dweeb is, David Piercy or George Zimmerman. May their karma continue to roll until they admit the error of their ways. Hopefully both will disappear from the public eye soon.

    I’m encouraged by NBC’s response. I’m not good at analyzing legal issues, but it appears to me that GZ really doesn’t have much of a case considering all the statements he made and by fleeing his home prior to any publicity.

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  10. towerflower

    From the lawsuit: “Their contention that, before they aired their broadcasts, there was already a public controversy over whether the plaintiff was guilty of racially profiling Martin is also contrary to the allegations of the Complaint and cannot be considered.”

    His lawyers claim there were no public outcries until the airing of the segments. The first segment aired on 3-19-12 and was limited to a local Miami TV station. The other airings were done on a national level.

    On 3-17-12, there was a televised interview locally with TM’s parents and two of the witnesses and during the interview it was also announced that Al Sharpton would travel to FL and that a group of college students would march on the Seminole Co. Courthouse on the 19th.

    On March 8, 2012 the Change.org petition was first started asking for the arrest of GZ. So you have at least 3 incidents of public outcries before the Miami broadcast even aired. It sounds like in the sentence above they are saying that because we say they didn’t exist you can’t produce evidence that it did.

    I have to admit that when I first heard the tape I thought it was “coons” but after listening to his police interviews and Serino saying the local gang was called the “Goons”, I then thought he might have referenced the local gang. Either way I still can’t hear the sound of “punks” being made.

    I also have never saw the NBC segments and only first heard about them when they filed the lawsuit so to assume that everyone feels he is guilty because of NBC is flawed.

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    • towerflower,
      That yada, yada in their reply about the 4 corners of the complaint does not apply to a defendant’s motion to dismiss because what they are presenting are uncontested facts that there is no material issue worth bringing to a jury. What Zim’s lawyers needed to do was address those uncontested facts with uncontested facts of their own rather than go into a diatribe. It’s up to the court to decide, but I’m hoping the lawsuit will be dismissed without prejudice, giving Zim a opportunity to amend his complaint and file again. But, that’s because I like following litigation. 🙂

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    • towerflower,
      You’ve presented a good chronological breakdown. Thanks.

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  11. top of page 8 in tub’s answer …and I am not kidding…

    …Plaintiff “voiced his complaint “( that they always get away) thereby showing the entire world that these lawyers can’t write a legal document.
    “Voiced his complaint” is not exactly what tubs said in his soft spoken sweet as pie voice. I believe it was more along the lines of
    ….THESE ASSHOLES, THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY…

    Then to double down on we cannot write a complaint they just flat leave out his reference to fucken coons, goons, punks. Maybe, if we don’t put it in our answer / initial complaint, people will forget he ever said anything.

    Oh, and he was going to Target..

    Nettles and helpers used to write motions for O’ Mara and they were so devoid of case citations and required case law, you always knew they had written them.
    But it’s a large Philadelphia law firm and a local lawyer,who looks like he knows or should know how to present a motions in a complex lawsuit.

    So, I am dumbfounded that they would waste argument on non issue and not even attempt to frame his words in a way that is believable.

    I cannot tell you’ll how delighted I am with his lawyers explanation: “He voiced his complaint”

    Ok by???
    Pulling out his gun and killing this teen.

    Well, I guess that’s one way to “voice your complaint” when you feel somewhat annoyed by another’s rude behavior.

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    • 2dogsonly,
      Yeah, they tend to leave out the important things.

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — we heard the real George Zimmerman on his NEN call — profanity, condescending attitude, and profiling of one individual as a group.

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  12. Sorry edit!!!
    Plaintiff voiced his frustration / not complaint.
    But nothing mentioned about fucken coons, goons, punks.

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  13. In my humble opinion, Zimmerman took a young life because of a bias in his own mind. He deserves much more penalty than he has received. I believe this is karma and he should be hoping his life will be bearable. Haters don’t prosper in the truest sense. Hugs,Barbara

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  14. Those remarks just leave me devastated. And as far as GZ’S supporters thinking he has a strong case, I’ve never understood how they could think that. I mean I understand why he’s doing it. He’s broke, desperate, and stupid. But how his supporters could possibly think he even remotely has a case, I just don’t understand. Sick people. Very sick people.

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    • Rachael,

      And as far as GZ’S supporters thinking he has a strong case, I’ve never understood how they could think that.

      They think that because NBC did edit the tape. What Zimmerman cannot prove is that it was an intentional affliction of emotional distress that caused him harm. According to him, he was already in hiding and in fear for his life as of Feb. 27, 2012.

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  15. Reblogged this on Cnred's Blog.

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  16. I think honey pot is preggers. She posted a pix clearly along but titled it ” tbt”. I looked up meaning in twitter dictionary and it’s a game posting a picture 5 yrs plus back so I had hoped the picture may be that.
    But one of her twitter friends is sending her drink pictures cause she can’t drink, this is mentioned back and forth 3-4 times. So, she may be pregnant.sigh ;-(

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    • I’m confused. I thought she WAS pregnant. God help us all.

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    • THAT IS NASTY!!! LALALAL I CANT HEAR YOU LALALA

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    • It takes two selfish people to consider bringing a child into this world knowing what kind of life child will have. I guess in their sick minds they believe they will be one big happy family and life will be a picnic in the park. I can just imagine GZ packing up the baby to haul around with him to gun shows. Open the beg site, send cash now, baby needs a new pair of shoes. I’m sure RZ will be thrilled at the thought of helping his brother out changing diapers and spoon feeding the baby. I wonder if Proud Papa Z and Mommy Dearist plan on coming out of hiding to babysit the little tike, you know with all the death threats they get. Perhaps BFF Frank the Tank will get over being mad if you promise to make him the Godfather and let him throw a baby shower. I can imagine the games he’ll want to play, the game where the person blindfolded spoons the cotton out of the bowl, pin the corn on the cob, and finish daddy’s phrase.

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  17. ANNOUNCEMENT

    David Piercy has threatened me with a restraining order for using screenshots of his tweets that he publicly posted on Twitter. I suppose he has forgotten about the approximate 400 comments from himself and his cohorts that were sent to this blog beginning in September 2012. Jessica stated in one comment that it was Piercy who told them about and helped them learn to use proxy IP addresses. In other words, she implicated him in giving her the means to continuously send filth, threats, and extortion demands to me.

    David, your buds are putting all the heat and blame on you.

    Guess that I’ll see you in court.

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    • Is he effn nuts? Forget I asked that. Sheesh.

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      • Rachael,
        He’s been threatening others on Twitter for at least 2 weeks in the same manner. What he doesn’t understand is that he constantly sends vile comments to this blog, some filled with racial hate-speech. He cannot do that then honestly claim that I’m harassing him.

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        • I don’t know how he can threatened you with a restraining order for using screenshots of his tweets that he publicly posted on Twitter either.

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          • Rachael,
            He and his cohorts have threatened me since September 2012 on one thing to another. After Zimmerman filed the suit against NBC, Jessica threaten that unless I deleted this blog of all “lies about George,” that the Beasley law firm would sue me. She also sent comments to other bloggers warning them not to post here because I was being sued by George. Her last threat was that all of my information was given to Jayne Weintraub in preparation for suing me for “lying about George.”

            I wonder who they served? LOL!

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          • What sick behavior…shaking my head…..

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            • When bullies have done everything they can and it hasn’t worked according to their agenda, their last card to play is to threaten with legal action.

              I would eat them up for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a midnight snack.

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          • Rachael,
            Someone told him that they were filing a restraining order against him because he continuously posts their personal information on the internet and Twitter. She has a good basis in law supported by screenshots of his harassment.

            His only defense is, “They were talking bad about George Zimmerman.”

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          • Xena, your light of goodness shines brightly and scatters the evil of darkness.

            Being in the right is might!

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          • Xena,

            LOL, they were going to sue you for “lying about George.” No need to sue anyone about “lying about George,” George does GREAT JOB lying about George.

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        • Honesty and crusty have not met & he appears to have lied already to the court in a complaint about ppl harassing him &his make believe wife & daughter & then posted it all over twitter! I’d take issue with that if I were that child’s mother & especially her father.

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      • I think that anyone who reads his posts would question his mental stability.

        Seems to me I remember a quote in the Barr lawsuit response in which you have federal protection of a reposting of an original post. It had to do with someone who made a post with defamatory info on a person and someone else reposted the original. Federal law protected the reposting but not the original.

        Sorry you have to go through this Xena but I’m hoping that you or any of the many having restraining orders placed on them by this person gets a judge who slams him right back.

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        • towerflower,
          Not to worry.

          I happen to know a thing or two about restraining orders. Piercy is blowing smoke. Restraining orders are for no contact. The petitioner has to prove that the respondent has made contact with him. He’s the one intentionally and consistently contacting me! I have comments he submitted through the Calif. State University in Fresno’s network. They by-passed moderation. When I deleted his comments, he accused me of deleting them because he proved me wrong. No — I deleted them because he trespassed. He knows that he’s not allowed to post here but continues submitting comments anyway.

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    • How Fun!!!

      Xena, we have your back!!

      Race To The Bottom by Dweeb 1 and Dweeb two and Dweeb followers
      Dear god.

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    • Xena,

      Will that be in a court in Calif.? If so, your welcome to vacation at my estate. LOL…No really, I’m serious.

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    • Piercy, since you stalk/lurk here, you might want to know the following published by Word Press (emphasis added);

      WordPress.com is a publishing platform where bloggers often use copyrighted materials in commentary or journalism, or transform the materials into something original of their own. As such, before submitting a DMCA notice for material on which you own a copyright, it’s important to consider if the manner in which the material is used falls under fair use. If you are not sure material located on or linked-to by a WordPress.com site infringes your copyright, you should consider first contacting an attorney. Please be advised that you may be liable for damages (including costs and attorneys’ fees) if you materially misrepresent that material or activity is infringing – and we have and will seek to collect those damages.

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  18. Another George Zimmerman supporter — and Zimmerman alleges that NBC caused the public to believe he’s racist?

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  19. Advice to the hateful racists:


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    • How beautiful the world could be if united in love and brotherhood!

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      • I really enjoyed that and, it’s really sad to say, that per capita there are more racist in this so called civilized country, than in any other the world over! Also, why do these social media sites allow this kind of hate filled shit to be posted on their sites any way? Hate speech is not free speech and yet, they allow it. Trayvon was a child and, if AA talked that way about the deceased kids murdered @ Sandy Hook, these trashy racist whites, would be angry as hell. But, AA have more respect and class than this white trash and, they would never do that! I’m not going to ask God to have mercy on them, because they are not worthy of his grace and mercy. Excuse my rant but, I’m sick of these trashy whites who disrespect this innocent child, who was murdered by their God Fogen! They absolutely worship this ASS Hole. BTW, Fogen better hope, that his unborn child dosen’t come into the world imperfect because of what he did, to someone else’s child as well as for how he and his fellow racist make fun of the child he murdered.

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        • ladystclaire,

          I also am sick of these hateful racists and their denigrating, manipulated photos or their horrible comments about our son Trayvon.

          I have so much admiration for Sybrina and Tracy, who through their grief, are pushing for gun control and for repeal of SYG in order to provide safe environments for ALL children in our country.

          There have been too many horrific tragedies. We MUST hear the cries of these child victims who are gone too soon:

          Xena’s video:

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        • “It doesn’t matter where you living, the woman gather crying, tears that fill a million oceans”


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  20. BTW. don’t forget Zimmerman also reminded the dispatch again, totally unsolicited, that Trayvon was black, right before he called him one of the assholes who always get away.

    but the point is Zimmerman knew they’d ask him race just like they did in every other call. and just like he did in every other call he made sure to describe clothing in great detail.
    but in Trayvon’s case he got every single detail correct except for the khakis, he said jeans or sweat pants..even tho he saw well enough to say he has something in his hands & he’s reaching into his waist. hmmm.. wonder how he confused those khakis for jeans or sweat pants.

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    • And the button on the shirt……

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    • Don’t you know the supporters say Trayvon went home, changed his pants then came back after GZ? I wonder why he didn’t leave his candy and soda at home though. Those people are SUCH idiots!!!!!

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      • Rachael,
        Oh yeah! The bigotvoyant theory. They looked into their crystal ball and saw that Trayvon knew exactly where GZ was, was going, and when he would be at the “T.”

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  21. Xena,

    I will ALWAYS stand up TOGETHER with you as you rise up and speak against racism.

    You have a wonderful blog seeking and supporting justice and equality!

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  22. Good Morning, Xena! And everyone!,

    Really, those horrific posts were sent to you? I kind of thought so but then thought, that is just me reading too much. But now I see he did send them.
    Well, I’m sure tubs and his lawyers must be pleased as punch he’s doing this right as they are attempting to not portray him as racist. And he can say, those posts are not mine and I can’t control others but it sure helps NBC’s defense.

    Thank you Xena for your extraordinary courage.

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  23. So, Fogen left out him calling Trayvon a Fucking COON and, these ass holes they always get away. Now that’ sweat I call editing out your own statements on the very same NEN call and, on purpose! He definitely said the words Fucking COONS and, the prosecutors know it, Chris Serino knows it and, he darn well know exactly what he muttered under his stinking breath.

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    • Yep, and gz definitely did NOT say “punks”:

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    • Y’all have heard me say it before but I’ll say it again, as a medical transcriptionist for 20+ years, hearing is my business and there is NO doubt in my MT ears that he is saying coons.

      In medical transcription, when we can’t hear something, we ask someone else to listen, but we don’t tell them what it sounds like to us because that could taint what we hear. Often a fresh set of ears is needed to listen to something and it is best not to say what you think you heard or that might be what they hear too.

      Before I listened to the recording, I had read about Goons. Goons made sense. It would be easy to hear the g from the effiG Goons sound like something else so that is really what I expected and tried to hear when I listened.

      But it is coons, clear as a bell – and I really do not believe it requires MT ears to hear it. It is so crystal clear…

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    • It seems to me they left out ALOT,so how can it be a real legal document,if so much is left out.I also agree about the COONS.I started listening to the tape when it was released with headphones & to this day it still doesn’t even come close to PUNKS!!
      I have probably a stupid question…but here goes….since NOTHING shocks me anymore concerning GZ,if this NBC actually went to court,would it be in Seminole County,where they hold him accountable for NOTHING??? The same question goes for the fake charges against Rosanne Barr by Z Sr.They all scattered like roaches on Feb 27th….this all makes no sense to me & I believe GZ’s reputation speaks for itself!!
      If he wasn’t such a super star(RIGHT) how else could he get 100 thousand for a crappy painting,because he put his self in the public eye.How has he suffered? He was broke,with his Mama paying his rent,wife left him,he shoots a child Trayvon,wife comes back & the money starts flowing!!! Him,his family & supporters can never make up for the damage they did & are still doing.Still LYING!!
      By the way Jayne Weintraub,if you are gathering info for lies,you might want to check some of your own when you were saying what a LIAR George is!

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  24. In Motion to Deny Summary Judgmnet
    Page 7.. Last paragraph
    What did Tub’s lawyer leave out?? ( I cannot get iPad to copy and paste )
    Totally left out “he’s on drugs or sumpten”.
    But lawyers insert he “begged” for someone to come

    I am almost 100% sure they will be allowed to amend their motion and be allowed to proceed to discovery but his lawyers are making a fool out of themselves.

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  25. http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2014/05/breaking-new-zimmerman-disclosure-may.html
    OMG this better be real!!
    some one check the frances facebook!! I couldn’t find the date on the article, but link says TODAY!

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  26. See what happens when you screw your friend who has paid your bail. Taffe said he wanted to get in the ring to fight tubs. You just can’t screw over people over and over again and tubs is too arrogant to see this.

    Please let it be true!

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    • I know, imagine, frances being the shy guy that he is, compelled by his good conscience to speak up for his “amiable” soft spoken, all around swell guy BFF. so he risked his own fine reputation to go all over TV and defend the child killer out of the goodness of his heart. And now no one, not even the killer is paying any attention to them.
      all the zimmeridiots are just as narcissistic as zimmy is, they all want their 15mins even if they have to turn on their buddy to get it.

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    • Guess the competition was who is the bigger attention whore. I haven’t been paying attention, but I would imagine Taffee hasn’t been getting as much exposure as he would like and feeling snubbed by GZ – well, it was bound to happen!!

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      • towerflower

        I went to his FB page and I couldn’t find the post, but on the blog link it sends you to the post and it is updating. He must have some posts protected to only where his friends can see it and I’m not about to friend him for that.

        Also as of 6:30pm EST, there is nothing in the Orlando Sentinel yet. This could be just another game. Just like you never heard another thing about the fight after the initial release.

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  27. He also said Judge Corrupt was told to ” stick to the script” Nancy grace just laughed at him. This was before verdict so who would really believe he had inside information?

    Lisa Bloom’s book said she had never seen prosecutors ignore clear evidence like they did in this trial( in her 20 yrs. of covering trials)

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  28. Sorry everyone for not being here more. My family from out of town just left. Four adults, 3 children, 2 dogs all in the same household. I’m exhausted. In a few moments I’ll catch up on things here.

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  29. I think Taaffe is just blowing smoke up someone’s ass. There is nothing at his site, have heard nothing – and he will probably say his Facebook, like everything else, was hacked.

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    • towerflower

      Rachael…..I think he controls the posts and this one seems to be a friend only post but if you update the article you’ll see other posts coming out and the time changing.

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  30. towerflower

    DP has officially locked his twitter account. Now his comments will only be viewed by his following and not available for everyone to see. Another racist who now hides behind locked doors…..I believe his rants are now coming back to haunt him.

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  31. Someone please tell me …

    How can a person take copyrighted material, Photoshop it, but claim they own the copyright? Also, how can a person post a tweet and claim copyright infringement when the tweet is embedded?

    Well, now I think we know how Zimmerman thought he could take a copyrighted photo, trace it, change colors, and sell it as his own creation.

    Their ignorance is overwhelming.

    I’m not going to approve the comment because that would result in Piercy’s gravatar appearing under “My Community.” What I have done is taken a screenshot of his comment and will embed the top portion that does not include his purported personal info. This is another example of his harassment.

    He was so proud of making racial slurs in comments to this blog and stirring the pot on Twitter to inflame and demean. What’s his problem now?

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    • DP seems to be the guilty party. Racist photoshopping of a copyrighted “Planet of the Apes” image must be a violation of copyright laws.

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      • Perhaps this is why DP has suddenly shut down his Twitter Page (as reported above) and gone into hiding.

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        • Yahtzee,
          He unprotected it — he’s having too much fun trying to intimidate those he harasses.

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          • You by far outclass him! Ha! He is getting NOWHERE!

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            • Had they only learned in January 2013 when their internet service providers first contacted them about abuse and violation of TOS, this would have ended then. They didn’t stop and have provided additional evidence of their conspiracy. I don’t understand their obsession.

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          • They can’t help themselves. Pitiful for them.

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          • towerflower

            Xena, just like the little man who gets a hero complex when he carries a gun, they feel like they too are carrying when they dox and make their threats. They feed one another.

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            • towerflower,
              Absolutely! They dox to taunt. There are people they have doxed who they can’t find anything to use to mock them, but they insist on using their name instead of their handle when harassing them. That’s deliberate taunting. They are relentless when it comes to Leatherman and Crane-Station.

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      • Yahtzee,
        He has no problem stealing the copyrighted works of others, including Marinade Dave, Trent Sawyer, and Frederick Leatherman. Youtube suspended him 3 times for copyright infringement and bullying, but he uses a proxy IP and opens another channel anyway.

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    • This has nothing to do with that unstable persons’ ridiculous and bogus accusations against you, Xena, but that unstable person is clearly aware of the Digital Millennium Act of 1998.

      He’s a gift that keeps on giving. 🙂

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      • taylor4242,
        In order for it to be copyright infringement, his Twitter account would have to be under his personal copyright, and it’s not. It’s a public account where he made the photos available, and what is presented in the article are screenshots of his Twitter account.

        As far as his vile comments, he voluntarily submitted them to this blog. The purpose of submitting comments to blogs is for them to be publicly posted. He knows that I won’t approve them, but he continues to sends comments anyway, so his voluntarily actions constitute intentional harassment.

        Let him go there. I am ready.

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  32. Good Lord how I wish this were true!! But it wouldn’t make a difference would it? They can’t re try him,can they? I have wanted juror Mrs LAWYER to finally be caught with their TAMPERING since it all came out! I want EVERYONE who had a hand in the cover up & fake trial to have to pay in some way.Lisa Bloom’s book opened my eyes up so much more.

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    • Marilyn, Zimmerman is under federal investigation for at least hate crimes for violating Trayvon’s civil rights, and possibly other things we aren’t aware of. So yes he can be tried in federal court and face life in prison. and like Xena pointed out in her post about a different case from last year, it took feds like 5yrs to bring charges.

      as far as all the other ppl who colluded and/or lied for the killer, they too are being looked at, hopefully the feds charge them too.

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  33. This is what Piercy and his minions have tried doing all along.
    It ain’t gonna happen.

    https://twitter.com/RustyTrombone75/status/463437827309461504

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    • “Reckless he is.”

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    • what’s this? lose the blog? I don’t get it.

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      • Rachael,

        As Xena said, “It ain’t gonna happen.”

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      • Rachael, remember the blog that Leatherman complained about and Word Press suspended? http://frederickleatherman.com/2013/01/09/wordpress-suspends-cyberstalkers-site/

        It began with that subject person who recruited several others to engage in a slur campaign so that certain bloggers, myself included, would delete our blogs. If the race of their target victims is White, they call them “White guilt idiots” for seeking equality for all. If Black, they call them “racist.”

        When their defamation ploy did not work, they engaged a campaign of sending comments to other bloggers claiming to have “outed” me as a “fraud,” and a racist. When that didn’t stop those bloggers from supporting this blog, they threatened to defame them.

        I have over 400 comments of their plots and extortion threats of what they would do unless I delete this blog. The comments include those they sent to other bloggers. That has been their plan since September 2012 when they first learned about Blackbutterfly7.

        While they use the defense that everyone they attack and threaten tells lies about George Zimmerman, that is not the truth. They are an internet terrorist group who holds to White Supremacist ideologies and the belief that there is a “BGI” that they must silence. Even David Piercy’s gravatar account has the handle “Sovereign Citizens of America.”
        http://en.gravatar.com/stanyerground He also has a blog titled “BGIWatch” and the subject person of Leatherman’s complaint currently has a blog that focuses on “BGI.”

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    • Lol Crusty, You’d have nothing to do if Xena lost her blog. A day without harassing someone, is a day without sunshine.

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      • dreamer,
        He would just regurgitate the same mocking and demeaning that they’ve been doing to Leatherman since around May of 2012, with an occasional mocking of Shelia’s blog since she is still active posting. They have their targets and agenda, but we’re still here and active.

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  34. Looks as if David Piercy is practicing law without a license.

    https://twitter.com/RustyTrombone75/status/463353265048911872

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  35. Not at all — just making your threats public — and your ignorance. Maybe now you’ll stop Photoshopping copyrighted material and posting it on your Twitter account to demean a race of people.

    https://twitter.com/RustyTrombone75/status/463459679419375616

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  36. LOL! That’s not what Jessica wrote in a comment she sent here.

    After sending comments here directly through the IP address assigned to them by their ISP, you and they started using proxy IP addresses because ?????

    After you and they found that your favorite proxy IP websites denied you access to this blog, you’re the only one who harasses on a consistent basis through your Comcast IP address. Unless you’re connecting off the unprotected Wi-Fi of another resident in your apartment complex like you did previously. Unless you’re using the Calif. State U’s network like you did previously. You just won’t stop.

    https://twitter.com/RustyTrombone75/status/463507452147679232

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  37. Some months ago you were looking for anything I’ve posted to support your lies. You didn’t and can’t find what doesn’t exist, but continue the slander campaign. What I’ll do now is take screenshots and save them for when they are needed. There are children dying and parents hurting, but all you can do is focus on me. Begone with you. You’re not worth my time.

    https://twitter.com/RustyTrombone75/status/463507337735467008

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  38. To the harassers,
    I know you intentionally call this blog “budderfly” to mock. Your words intended for criticism demonstrate a strong envy. We here on Blackbutterfly7 are just ourselves. I honor and appreciate everyone here who participates and supports this blog. Yes, as peers in many professions do, we create awards and nominate each other.

    By analogy, let’s take the Oscars. I’ve not heard a winner turn down an Oscar on the basis that they were chosen by their peers. Maybe the losers think like you, my dear, obsessed harassers, but winners do not.

    Did you know there’s an actual corporation with the name “Budderfly” who provides unique energy management solutions. There is also an urban definition for “budderfly.” It means, “kind of like a butterfly, but more like the cutest girl ever.”

    So, thanks for calling this blog a unique energy management company and being the cutest girl ever.

    Happy Butterfly

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  39. Like

    • Omg i’m listening to this and i’m freaked out. who is this?? what the hell is this and what is going on!?? i’m gonna look into the ppl he’s speaking about but i’ve not heard of this yet..

      Rob McCord

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      • Shannon,
        I was going to embed the video that you sent, but now I can’t find it. There are over 1,000 emails and notifications in my in-box right now.
        Paper Work

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  40. X, yep that weirdo is jealous of your popularity and your intelligence and the 100s of other smart ppl who come here to add to the intelligent discussions.

    he’s obviously ignorant, insecure, lonely, angry and hopelessly irrelevant in every aspect of his own life and in society. he found Zimmerman and instantly related to him. he clings to Zimmerman because losers are attracted to other losers. they’re both unemployed, living off others and the only time they feel big is when they’re bullying ppl because in reality, they’re both scared miserable powerless little men, and they know it. lol they both are living lives of failure.

    Yep, no competition! Xena wins by a landslide!

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    • Shannon,
      I know you were also harassed on your blog. They made the rounds. He tweets out your name to others like he’s searching for someone to make a “hit.” I remember when I could not put a blog on the blogroll without seeing one of them tweet it to another and another to see which one was going to attack.

      But, here we are, staying strong.

      There is a wonderful Word Press Community, a wonderful group of Trayvon Warriors, and a wonderful group of people who believe in peace, love and equality for all. It’s not my fault that the harassers formed a gang rather than peer groups.

      To Shannon:
      Big Hug smiley face

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  41. TRO granted against crusty!!;-)

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    • What is “TRO”?

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      • https://twitter.com/cxbarrow/status/463804545374494720
        Here it is! TRO is temp restraining order. Permeant hearing in 21 days. DP tweeted out he won but links just showed blank pages. Woop woop.
        DP is that guy that has been so hateful against Xena. Doesn’t bother Whonoze though, probably just bullies women.

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        • 2dogsonly.
          Okay. I see it. The court denied DP’s TRO and set a hearing to show cause why a restraining order should or should not be issued. This gives the respondent time to put his case together.

          Doesn’t bother Whonoze though, probably just bullies women.

          He’s probably sent Whonoze a thousand comments, but Whonoze no doubt banned him and has no reason to check his spam queue so doesn’t know that the comments were submitted. The spam queue in Word Press empties automatically every 15 days, so whatever is there goes into a black hole without their existence being known.

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      • TRO = temporary restraining order.

        In general, the hearing on a TRO is ex parte because the other party is not present in court. If the court finds sufficient evidence, it will enter a TRO and schedule a hearing, (in Illinois, in 2 weeks), for a hearing on the plenary order.

        The summons and complaint is then served on the respondent. If the respondent resides in another county, the petitioner must get the summons and complaint to the sheriff of the county were the respondent resides.

        If the respondent is not served with the summons and complaint, the court might issue an “alias summons” or dismiss the case.

        Plenary orders are not permanent, but only for a set period of time. In Illinois, that is up to 2 years.

        When the alleged harassment or stalking is via the internet, most courts require that the petitioner provides evidence of using all available options provided by the source to resolve the issue.

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        • https://twitter.com/therealhoodrept/status/463814541847982080
          Hope this is clickable. I’m on iPad so I just click on copy tweet, come here, and paste.
          It is exactly like you say. Santiago hired a lawyer and tweeted out DP was aware he was going to be served .

          Santiago had tons of saved harassment tweets. I just hope this doesn’t push Crusty into violence. He seems to throw everyone under the bus if they dare block him ( Nettles blocked him yesterday) and tweeted out a pix of an AA Jesus shooting two birds to a new follower just for asking him to unfollow her and she would do that as she couldn’t stand the way he called people ” retards”.

          She tweeted him asking ” what kind of person ARE you that would send out something so hostile simply for my request to unfollow each other.

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          • 2dogsonly,
            He mocks those who believe in any god, the mentally ill, and Blacks. IMHO, he is very dangerous — comes out of no where and attacks people who don’t know him from Adam’s houseplant.

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      • Thanks, 2dogsonly and Xena!

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    • 2dogsonly,
      Can you fill us in? Do you know how to embed tweets? If not:

      Click the time on the upper right of the tweet you want to embed. It will come up in a separate window. Copy the URL at the top of that window. Paste it in the comment.

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      • Here is tweet from Santiago saying ” tomorrow is going to be amazing”! Santiago is the one requesting the TRO. Maybe DP cut and pasted his name as Plantiff so it looks like he requested it.
        He is a very scary man!

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  42. Xena, I just realized the TRO was DP V Santiago? Does this mean DP was successful cause that was not what Santiago tweeted yesterday. I wonder if I just cco a doctored document by one and only. Very confused now.

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    • According to what Piercy posted, the TRO was denied. HOWEVER, I just checked the docket and nothing has been entered since May 2nd. I’m going to check the judge’s signature. That could be an old TRO that was denied, or a forged order.

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    • I’ve seen people use those in pro per forms, fill them out including the order, to mislead others into thinking a court has ruled. I remember a man coming to an attorney’s office wanting to know how he was divorced without knowing it had been filed. Turned out his wife filed the case, filled out the order and gave it to him saying he had to leave the house. That didn’t work well for her. His attorney prepared and filed a cross-complaint and she was sanctioned for his attorney fees.

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  43. I think he posted an old one where he asked for RO. He was denied. Dear god, he is unbelievable.

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  44. Like

    • And, let us not forget that Trayvon died never knowing WHO his killer was nor WHY his killer was following him.

      Such a horrific tragedy….to a child who had simply been walking innocently home from the store.

      Some excerpts from Witness 18’s (Jane Surdya) 911 call:

      Oh, my God.
      
.

      Oh, my God. Why does he have to be killed?
      
.

      Oh, my God.
      
for somebody to be shot.
      
.

      Oh, my God. To see someone killed laying in the grass. Oh, my God.
      
.

      Why would this man just shoot him?…
      
.
      Oh, my God. Why would somebody kill someone like that?

      
.
      
Oh, my God. Oh, my God!

      .

      Oh, God. I mean, they’re looking at the person that’s dead. I just…

      Oh, God.
      
.

      But I… when someone yells for help, though, you feel like you wish you could have helped them, you know.
      
.
      
Sorry, I’m just shaking.
      
.

      It’s frightening me,you know.Well I never… Seeing trauma like this
.
      .
      
Oh, God.

      I mean. I don’t know. I don’t know any… the circumstance. It’s just like if you’re, you know, if you see somebody’s getting hurt.But I just can’t believe somebody would shoot someone.
Oh, God.

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      • Remember that Witness 18 saw the last moments of the struggle and was watching at the moment of the shot and saw the larger, heavier man on top.

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        • Video by LLMPapa entitled “Witness 18, The Statement of A Teacher:

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        • Here is her full testimony in court:

          posted on Youtube by Axiom Amnesia:
          This is the full testimony of Jayne Surduka (W18), eyewitness in the George Zimmerman Trial on 6/26/2013.

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  45. Hi, long time reader but first post. I watched Trent’s latest youtube video a few weeks ago where one of the questions he asks gz was ‘why didn’t you have gunshot residue all over the front of your jacket?’ Why didn’t he? Why wasn’t this brought up in court – either.

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  46. Welcome Sidewinder!

    Tubs was allowed to clean up in bathroom. SPD were on his side, for instance this:

    Serino playing 911 call with screaming heard in background says:” that’s you screaming”
    Tubs responds : ” doesn’t even sound like me”
    Serino: sighs thinking how the hell are we going to help this guy?

    Another Serino: “we need to answer questions” ( come up w/ an explanation)
    Serino: “you’re the good guy here”
    Serino: “maybe you said goons”?
    Serino: “I’m trying to help you here”

    Lots more examples.

    The question is why? It can’t just be they needed to cover up that they did a poor investigation which is clearly heard on evening of killing. Serino flew through John Good’s interview in 3 minutes and another witness had to go on tv to get him to respond. He responds by saying this witness is playing cat and mouse with me ( implying he has been trying to contact her and she’s just playing to the camera).

    I also don’t buy that papa Z had enough influence over SPD..he was a retired Va. Magistrate which is not only in another state but a Magistrate is not a Judge…more paper work than deciding a case.
    It may be he knew Wolfganger and they were told to go easy BUT when it began to be looked at, WHAT MADE STATE DOUBLE DOWN???

    Hope you read Lisa Bloom’s book. She says in 20 years of covering trials she has never seen a prosecution present their case in total opposition to the evidence.
    It’s very well researched

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    • I sure hope someone with some clout will investigate this. I just do NOT understand, I just do NOT.

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    • Thank you. I know they allowed him to clean himself up but don’t think it’s possible to remove gunshot residue from his shirt or jacket to the extent that none appeared on the front of him. It should have been there and lots of it. According to gz’s ‘story’ anyway.

      I am planning on reading her book. Trayvon’s loss of life still haunts me. Everyday.

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  47. /large

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  48. Reblogged this on Mysterious Observations and commented:
    This is a good example of the “work” of George Zimmerman worshipers, who are in no way racist! (wink)

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    • mysteryquest,
      Thanks for the reblog.

      When I first read their comments, I thought that someone had put me in a time machine and sent me back to 1850.

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  49. So Frances Taaffe wants to repent? suddenly decides the man he’s fluffed for 2.5yrs, the “amiable” George Zimmerman, who stalked & murdered a crying 17yr Boy, did in fact racially profile Trayvon Martin?
    Oh and that a court official was relaying the confidential info of jury deliberations?!!
    all because his own sons died?

    I think i got it. he realized it really doesn’t pay to be a racist sideshow freak. it’s actually the victims’ family who get all the world’s admiration, attention, and the long term support, especially when they’ve out classed most of us and turned their grief into a cause for the greater good for all of us.

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  50. Let me remind you of the cruel words Kotex posted when Joe P. died. No GZ supporter would post such a thing.— Annette (@Nettles18) May 9, 2014

    this is really phycho. I cant tell if they really think this way or if they’re just doing it on purpose.

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  51. here’s taaffe talking abt his inside knowledge, among other bulshit.

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  52. It’s not bs. He knew and yes he’s racist and yes he jumped up for air time. But he is the only one capable of bringing down this house of cards. Anyone else would be facing criminal charges ( obstruction or perjury). And only one tough enough to withstand impending wrath coming his way from both sides and smart enough to release it via a first class journalist and not tub’s ace reporter.Rene S.

    I am so thrilled for Tray’s loved ones. They could not have guessed they would be facing the Jim Crow south ( being from Miami) and the old south racism in 21st century US of A.

    Wonder if his attorneys in NBC lawsuit are thinking maybe we should have followed O’Mara as he turned out the light while leaving the building?

    Perfect timing to defend tubs is not a racist ( tongue in cheek)

    Xena, could you consider beginning a new thread just devoted to what is the sweet light at the end of the tunnel? All that hate directed at you will now have no place to go except poof.

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  54. SOMEONE POSTED A PICTURE OF SOME APES… I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN APE OR A MONKEY WITH AFRO HAIR THEY ALL HAVE STRAIGHT HAIR… SO IF ANYONE IS AN APE OR MONKEY IT WOULD BE RACIST KKKRKKKAS…

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