Another Witness in the Zimmerman Trial Writes A Book
Jonathan Good, also known as John Good, has written a book about his experience as a witness to what he saw on February 26, 2012. On that evening, then 28 year old George Zimmerman profiled a 17-year old as a burglar, and followed that teen in his truck until the teen ran. Zimmerman then got out of his truck in a millisecond, flashlight in hand and gun purportedly on his hip, and ran in the direction of the back gate where he believed the 17 year old was heading.
Different witnesses saw different things but what they saw has to be tested against the words of George Zimmerman. On his call to non-emergency dispatch, (NEN), Zimmerman said he didn’t want to give his own address because he didn’t know where the kid was. Zimmerman did not want to meet the cop at the mail shed, a classic landmark in a community of cookie-cutter buildings. Zimmerman wanted the cop to call him, and he would tell the cop where he was. Trayvon Benjamin Martin ended up dead, by a 28 year-old man who admitted to pinning Trayvon’s arm and taking careful aim at his heart before pulling the trigger.
John Good’s book is the second from a witness since a jury of 6 women found George Zimmerman not-guilty. Jonathan Manalo was the first to write a book about his experience. In his book, Manalo says that he waited for the prosecution to ask significant, pertinent questions that never came.
Trayvon Benjamin Martin 2-5-1995 to 2-26-2012
What most people who followed discovery know about John Good, is that his testimony changed. One night, he saw “MMA” fighting and when he was interviewed again, he testified that he saw no punches thrown. John Good describes his book, “The Reluctant Witness: How the Tragic Event Between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman Changed My Life”, as
“This story is about what happened inside my life as a result of seeing 8 seconds of an event that changed my life forever. From the night it all started, through the verdict and life afterwards, I would not wish being a witness to this tragedy on anyone.”
Based on his inconsistent testimony, if John Good’s life changed for seeing 8 seconds of an event, it might be due to his placing his own fears before the truth. Good is not the only witness who changed their testimony AFTER the investigation was taken from the hands of the Sanford Police Department – AFTER it was known that George Zimmerman moved from the Retreat at Twin Lakes in the wee hours of the morning after he killed Trayvon Benjamin Martin. It’s amazing that witnesses appeared to be more comfortable after getting a sense of security that Zimmerman was no longer living in their community.
That speaks volumes about their REAL impression of the REAL George Zimmerman.
John Good’s book is co-authored by James Legrand, the author of “10 Things I Told My Kids About Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.” In that book, Legrand wrote:
“I don’t think this story will end with the gavel sounding at George Zimmerman’s acquittal. “
Legrand is correct. The story hasn’t ended with the gavel sounding, and it won’t. The George Zimmerman trial has joined the archives of other trials such as that of the killers of Emmett Till, where facts and the law were disregarded in favor for the perpetrators being sentenced to lessons learned.
I’ve not read the book, but according to someone who heard Good’s interview on a recent radio program, he holds to the opinion that Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his truck. We heard Jan Holland, Juror B37, say the same to Anderson Cooper. It’s common sense – no one can put themselves in harm’s way then claim that they exercised self-defense. A most telling thing about the case however, is that Trayvon Benjamin Martin ran from the man who was following him. Zimmerman was never in harm’s way.
The last person to talk to Trayvon, Rachel Jeantel, testified that Trayvon ran and was by his dad’s house when he saw the man again and the man was “getting close.” That tells us more about where Zimmerman was – not at the “T” going back to his truck, but on Retreat View Circle where he told investigators:
1. he was standing when told “We don’t need you to do that,”
2. where he didn’t know where the kid was
3. where he didn’t know where he would be when the cop arrived; and
4. where he told investigators that he walked back towards Trayvon after he hung up with NEN dispatch.
Posted on 04/27/2014, in Uncategorized and tagged book, George Zimmerman, James Legrand, John Good, Jonathan Good, justice for Trayvon, Trayvon Martin, trial. Bookmark the permalink. 82 Comments.
We Hold These Truths To Be Self-Evident 
I hope it haunts him. I hope he realizes he helped a murderer walk free. I wonder if he’s talked to the feds yet
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Me too
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Yeah Mindyme. I wonder too. Also wonder if Jeremy was held over from trial because of the feds.
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Books by Mark Osterman, Robt.Sr, Jonathan Manalo, and now Johnathan Good——–
Brrr…..shudder……cold, howling wind
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Makes one wonder why they think their lives are so messed up now, when Trayvon’s life was taken.
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They are a bunch of narcissists just like their hero Piglet.
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I hope Good burns in hell along with the rest of the racist liars who testified for Piglet.
Now he wants to apologize by stating that he believes that Piglet should have stayed his dumb behind in his truck and allowed the police to handle the situation?
It looks as if his conscience is bothering him.
Well bud Trayvon will always be dead so your conscience will eat you alive until you close your eyes for the last time.
Malano is no better since he was more concerned with the type of bullet with which Piglet fired into Trayvon’s body that night instead of him attempting to see if Trayvon were still alive and attempting to perform CPR.
But hey they all had their chances to do the right thing and now they have to suffer for it and I hope they see Trayvon every minute of the rest of their miserable lives.
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That bothered me, coupled with him going outside after hearing a gun shoot, armed with nothing more than a flashlight and cell phone. It makes me wonder if he knew it was George and why would he trust him? What made him think that he was any different than the UPS delivery man and Trayvon? Ummm. REALLY makes me wonder what makes him different than those he knew George pulled a gun on.
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Isn’t Malano an ex-cop of something?
I am sure he has the same view of blacks as George and his family.
It always bothered me that there were pictures of Malano standing inside the crime scene tape talking to the cops.
I wonder how well he knew the cops who were on the scene and if he thought that Osterman was involved.
IIRC, you mentioned something about a blood stain being on Malano’s garage, but no one not even Malano mentioned that in his interview with Joy Reed last year when he was promoting his ebook. I wonder why.
Could that have belonged to Piglet? Did Malano help Piglet injure himself by slamming his face into the wall to produce the bloody nose?
They had enough time to have a conversation about what type of bullet Piglet used and to take two pictures of the back of Piglet’s head before the cops arrived surely they had enough time to create injuries for Piglet so he could claim self defense.
So many questions that will never be answered.
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Roderick, he couldn’t have helped Z by slamming his face into the wall. There were too many witnesses who watched the event after the shot for that to have happened. Remember he would have had to walk back around a corner to the garage door area and then back again, the cops were on scene within seconds. If it took place at all it would have had to have been before the shot and then why would someone injure themselves before they confronted the person they were chasing when there was no guarantee at the time they would find them?
I’m more likely to believe that his nose injury was caused by the recoil of the gun, when he shot it from an unnatural shooting position and had no way to control the recoil of the gun.
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roderick,
The stain on Manalo’s garage is very suspicious. Because of the location of his house, my first thought was that tubs tripped over something and hurt his head on the garage frame.
IIRC, Manalo is a former cop.
What I wanted to hear at trial was Manalo testify about tubs being on the phone while he was taking pictures, and also, have the prosecution ask that since tubs dropped his phone to the ground when the cop arrived, could he have also dropped the key chain flashlight at the same time.
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I wanted to know whose idea it was to take the pictures in the first place.
If the State had really cared they would have asked and if the idea had been Piglet’s then one would wonder if he was already thinking about building a self-defense case?
Then the next question would have been why was he already thinking about self-defense when he had supposedly been in a life or death struggle.
But we know that Corey had already agreed with the defense that Trayvon had struck Piglet and was Standing his Ground.
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roderick,
Excellent point! It should have been the cops to photograph GZ’s head. Well, maybe they thought that taking the photos after GZ got to the station was more applicable in showing the truth of his boo-boo’s. In general, they do take photos of “injuries” after the person is cleaned up, because no one really knows where blood comes from when the situation involves someone else.
As we now know, the photos of GZ taken at the cop shop took second place to those taken by Manalo and that officer who used his cell phone to photograph GZ’s nose.
The State did not object to the photo taken by Manalo because they wanted the one of Trayvon’s body face down, with his hands underneath him, to dispute GZ’s story that he spread Trayvon’s arms out.
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Xena:The State did not object to the photo taken by Manalo because they wanted the one of Trayvon’s body face down, with his hands underneath him, to dispute GZ’s story that he spread Trayvon’s arms out.
Shouldn’t Piglet have been charged with tampering with evidence since he freely admitted that he touched Trayvon’s body AFTER he shot him?
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roderick,
Tubs distracted from that by contradicting himself. He said “I was on him,” regarding aiming and pulling the trigger. Then said he didn’t know if he had shot Trayvon because Trayvon was still talking. Tubs then took the authority of law enforcement by telling Trayvon not to move. All distraction — diversion.
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Xena: Tubs distracted from that by contradicting himself. He said “I was on him,” regarding aiming and pulling the trigger
No I thought that George admitted that he frisked Trayvon’s body after he shot him looking for a weapon which is another thing that the State missed.
If Trayvon had a choice between using his fists or a weapon, wouldn’t Trayvon have used a weapon?
If Trayvon had hit him then it would have been obvious that Trayvon didn’t have a weapon.
That proves to me that Trayvon didn’t touch George.
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roderick,
Tubs admitted to both. He said “I was on him” when taking that voice stress test, and he also said that he spread Trayvon’s arms out because when he was hitting him, it felt like he had something in his hands. Funny that he would get that impression since he ALSO said that Trayvon was smothering him, holding his hands flat over his nose and mouth.
I agree — Trayvon didn’t touch George. The DNA evidence leads to that conclusion as well.
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in the internet interview Good is not expressing any sense of conscience that I could perceive. he actually says it was his curiosity and “morals” that pushed him to “get involved” in the killing going on outside in his backyard that night. all thanks to his wonderful upbringing as his mother’s only child. and that he’s concerned about the safety of his neighborhood because of all the crime there so he’s just being a conscientious citizen and going out of his way hoping to be an example to all the others who do nothing.
yes, really, he acts like he did what no one else had the courage to do when there’s a kid getting killed outside. that’s why he wrote the book, to encourage ppl to step up and do the right thing even if you’re inconvenienced by a murder investigation and police, fbi and prosecutors.
i listened to an hour of the 2hour interview and i couldn’t stand 4 out of the 5 ppl who were interviewing him because they either didn’t know shit about the evidence and what Good said in his police interviews and/or to the media or they were too stupid and unprofessional to prepare relevant questions or they didn’t care.
and when someone wasn’t saying something outrageously ignorant like “a black man would’ve never talked to police like the great white Good did” or “blacks wouldn’t have testified in court” or how “i got out of jury duty by telling the court that i couldn’t be fair because i would automatically be biased for the black guy” which obviously stroked Good’s self-importance even further, the rest basically kissed his narcissistic ass the whole time.
one stupid question I can remember was how did he (good) think the lawyers handled their cases. he said that omara had much more to work with than the state did. because apparently a dead boy screaming for his life and being shot in front of 8ppl who were either too fucking blinded by racism to tell the truth or weren’t allowed to tell the truth because of all the fucking racists.
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Shannon,
So, Good is continuing the dog whistle profiling. How could he ever acquaint 2 people on the ground and screams for help on a Sunday evening outside his backdoor to be associated with the crime of burglary? I would have ran out and started screaming “Someone call 911” rather than trying to sound like a daddy telling them to “cut it out.” No, Good didn’t have much concern at all. He thought it was just 2 guys (or a guy and a dog) wrestling about who would end it with “cut it out. I’m calling the cops.”
Actually, I think it was by Good’s entrance and exit that GZ decided he had to kill Trayvon before the cops arrived because GZ did not know what John actually saw and what he saw might have agreed with what Trayvon said happened.
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Actually, I think it was by Good’s entrance and exit that GZ decided he had to kill Trayvon before the cops arrived because GZ did not know what John actually saw and what he saw might have agreed with what Trayvon said happened.
YES!!!
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Yahtzee,
It was always my impression that GZ had no clue that Trayvon would start screaming for help. He assumed that he could take authority over Trayvon as if he were a cop. This was verified/signified in what he told Singleton about no one questioning her authority.
Because Trayvon screamed for help, and Good came out, GZ had to make a quick decision how he was going to silence Trayvon before the cops arrived. Remember, he told Hannity that he was afraid the cops would arrive, see him with his gun, and shoot him.
If we go by the time that Jeantel’s call disconnected, to the time of the shot in the background of the 911 call, it was less than one minute of altercation that GZ decided to kill Trayvon. What GZ says happened during that time could not have happened, because there was no time for it all to happen.
This is why we know that anyone who looks at all of the evidence knows that GZ is a liar who killed because of his own ego.
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OMG!!! Not another one!! Why in the hell do these people want to speak up now? There are so many who lived there who could have helped during the so called trial….but I guess they were all waiting for a PAY DAY!!
I have had family here for 2 weeks & had my mind on them…its time for me to catch up! Does Good say anything different,since the duhfense kept saying he was their eye witness & so important? I refuse to buy his book,or Manalos.
I also noticed while I wasn’t paying attention that the juror’s names were finally released.I guess everybody at the condos are trying to beat the clock releasing books before they do!
How in the hell is their lives screwed up….Trayvon & his Family get to claim that.
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I agree Marilyn,
Everyone that testified for george can change their minds, write a book, SAY how it really was NOW at this time, but nothing they say or do will bring Trayvon back and take the heartache away and there will never be justice.
Trayvon’s life was taken for no reason in a brutal way. Nothing they say or do now can bring him back and they can never have another trial.
If I were them, I would just think about the fool that I was and what I did, I did knowingly at that time was wrong and nothing can change that.
Those saying it was wrong now are WAY too late. I wish that they would hold their guilt to themselves.
Damn, people are stupid!!!!
Do they ever think to do the right thing at the time that they have the obligation to do so?
They should all be locked up in prison with george for the rest of their lives.
We KNEW they were lying!
It isn’t too late for perjury, is it?
In all of the lastest trials, we’ve found later they perjured themselves, BUT they never pay for it.
It’s become a joke.
That was no trial!
Shame on all of them.
They say our justice system is the best?
Compared to what?
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Hi Loly!! Great to see you!! These IDIOTS are really pissing me off.I went back to listen to Goods interviews & watched him at the fake trial.I can’t figure out which one of these IDIOTS are more arrogant Lauer,Manalo,Good,etc.
Xena…..my opinion Good deserves NOTHING.It was HIM who started the damn “ground & pound, mma style BS”.All of these people who helped GZ will see just how much they were appreciated.I am horrified there are that many IDIOTS around.
Could theses neighbors jump on GZ’s bandwagon because THEY might have to pay for him protecting them with a GUN,which was not legal.Jenna Lauer was on HOA board.They probably saw the lawsuits coming & home sales falling!
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Hi Marilyn,
I think all of the idiots past should be looked into.
They shouldn’t get a free pass because they KNEW what they were doing and saying during the “trial.”
They KNEW they were lying, perjuring themselves, but would get by without any punishment.
The only ones suffering and will the rest of their lives are the Martin family and friends.
I believe that one juror wakes up every morning feeling depressed. Hopefully anyone that will be on a jury in the future will not listen to the so called “foreman”.
That foreman should be in prison.
Also the ones hearing Trayvon crying for help and they did nothing but lie should be in prison.
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Here is you tube video by a stuntman showing the impossibility of John Goode’s ” pound and mound”.
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Thanks 2dog,
I wish the state would have shown that in the trial.
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The state didn’t show anything that would have jeopardized their intent, which was to lose the case. Lisa Bloom lays it all out in her book. Anybody else read it yet?
You can buy a print version on Amazon but I am going to ask publisher for permission to copy some of it to various blogs.
Last time I will nag for warriors to comment on John Goode’s book. This lack of interest in correcting what they want to put out to public is disappointing.:-(
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2dogsonly,
I wouldn’t want to give a review without having read the book, and I don’t want to buy the book because I have no respect for Good.
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2dog,
I received a Kindle for Cristmas and purchased Lisa’s book in that version, but I haven’t learned how to use it yet, so I think instead of waiting I will go ahead and purchase her book.
I’m sure it’s very intesting and telling.
Thanks for reminding.
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@ Marilyn, it’s part of the small town mentality.
Remember that former police chief Billy Bob Lee showed up at the HOA meeting on March 1, 2012 and the guy who basically gave everyone the ‘l told you so’ speech about how dangerous Piglet was, was kicked out of the meeting.
Remember this was before some of the witnesses ( including Lauer) had their first police interview.
I can only imagine that Lee reminded those in attendance the ‘consequences’ of telling the truth about what happened that night and as is typical anyone who may have been willing to tell the truth was cowered into silence.
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To me, kicking that person out of the meeting has to be defined as some sort of witness tampering….something….
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Marilyn,
Maybe Good thinks he is entitled to compassion because of people who are compassionate to and respectful of Sybrina and Tracy.
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Changed his life ?????? Is he kidding ??? Someone tell these assholes it the victim and his family who matter, not another liar with an agenda.
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“it isthe victim and his family who matter, not another liar with an agenda.”
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I don’t think Manolo or Good are in any way responsible for the lackluster case that the proseuction put on, at least not to the same degree as Jeremy’s girlfriend with her smarmy, arrogant testimony.
And I do think they have a point about how the case affected their lives and in my opinion they’ve done well to write about it. I think they were probably misused by both the defense and the prosecution.
I hope the walls are closing in on George Zimmerman. Tick tock.
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“I hope the walls are closing in on George Zimmerman. Tick tock.”
Well, when the DOJ closes in on GZ, I am pretty sure GZ will not find another lawyer that that will want him.
O’Mara really did sleazy maneuvers with GZ:
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I don’t think Manolo or Good are in any way responsible for the lackluster case that the proseuction put on,
Except Good repeated his original lie about the MMA crap. Of course the State made no attempt to challenge him because they didn’t want to win.
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Soon Mr Zimmerman’s name will go by the wayside along with Cato Catlin and the housekeeper of OJ Simpson.. Mr Zimmerman is a hot head who one day will chase after the wrong guy… This too will pass…
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Welcome to Blackbutterfly7. One side of me hopes you are right about Zimmerman’s name going by the wayside. Another side of me believes that it will come up each time another innocent person is killed and the killer claims self-defense.
Will he chase the wrong person? He chased the wrong person when he chased Trayvon — he never thought that he had killed a teen whose parents were not going to shuffle along after talking with Serino.
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Zimmerman is a speck of dust in time. Dust in the wind literally. You watch someday down the road you will his name brought up on the evening news at it will go something like this, “Zimmerman was acquitted in the killing of Treyvon Martin…. He died when his car slammed into a tree alcohol appears to have played a factor…. On to our next story….” Done… A moment in time yet maybe just maybe some clown with a gun might later think, “I better think before I shoot.”
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Yeseventhistoowillpass,
You just dished out a good dose of reality. I remember hearing news reports about people who ended up dying in a car crash, or drug overdosing. Even Al Capone died from an STD.
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Yes! Think about this.. Who said, “Can’t we all just get along?” That sentence alone will live a lot longer than the man who was found in the pool… I try to see good things in tragic events… Collective Consciousness is added to by Treyvon Martins death.. Maybe the stand your ground law might be amended or even over turned.. Why because Treyvon died.. I say this with all respect..
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Yeseventhis,
I’m going to retract what I posted earlier about a dose of reality. What I read you say is apparently not what you meant or what I thought you meant.
Rodney King and George Zimmerman did not fall from the same tree. King was viciously beaten, and a jury that saw the video tape set them free.
Those who knew King personally and loved him might handle remembering his life and death differently as they continue living, but they won’t forget him.
When I think of the phrase, “This too shall pass,” it doesn’t mean “pass” — things change. A storm might “pass” because the weather and conditions change. There is always something that the storm does that effects life, whether animal, vegetable or mineral.
As do I, but I describe it as using the lemons to make lemonade — and it doesn’t mean that I stick my head in the sand.
By the way, his name is Trayvon — not Treyvon.
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You are taking my words all wrong.. Rodney King said those words which in some way quieted that riot when they smashed that truck driver with a cinder block.. Those words live today.. Rodney King died last year and still his words live on… This too will pass in the grand scheme of things is what I meant.. That’s all…
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yeseventhis,
Let’s see if we can clarify things.
He actually died in 2012 on June 17th.
Now, do you mean that his words live on, but the memory of King will not? Is it not true that we associate phrases with the person who stated them? People are always being quoted. Their words are the memory of them. If Trayvon’s killer should die today in a car crash or any other way, I will always remember that he told investigators “when I walked back towards him …”
Okay, but I don’t know what that actually means to you. It appears you are saying that it means people and/or events are forgotten. As I wrote earlier, to me it means that things change — not that they are forgotten.
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I am saying hopeful the collective consciousness might be raised by the tragic events that happened.. Hopefully people will say not again.. But the reality is people forget.. Pearl Harbor was in the news everyday for months then only on anniversaries now does anyone even care.. I know it sounds cold but it’s life.. Maybe it’s my Hindu upbringing but I try to look at the forest thru the trees…
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Yeseventhis,
We cannot generalize in that manner. After WWII, the Jews said never again. They have not forgotten.
Some things depend on our control. We cannot say “not again” unless it’s something under our control. We cannot control what others do, and laws are to punish rather than prevent. Thus, it depends on the situation.
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Yesthistoo,
I beg to differ with you. Things are not as easily forgotten as you would wish us to think. There is a big difference between that of the daily news and that of memory and history.
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yesthistoo,
I would like to share this video with you:
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You are right, Xena.
They did NOT allow the SPD and Wofinger to sweep the killing of their son under the rug. They insisted on having the evidence released and on having a thorough investigation as they sought justice for their slain son.
I have so much respect for Sybrina and Tracy, who through their tears and grief, set up a foundation in Trayvon’s name to push for change and for a better America. I so admire their steadfast determination, their dignity, and their class.
Trayvon will FOREVER be embraced in the hearts of justice seekers.
Trayvon WILL LIVE ON and fuel the spirit of those
Who advocate and fight for civil rights
Who stand up and march against profiling and stereotyping
Who seek the repeal of SYG and insist upon gun control
Who battle against racism, bigotry and hatred
Who campaign against vigilantism
Trayvon’s name has already been immortalized. In Trayvon’s name, multitudes of justice and equality seekers will continue to engage in the struggle against injustice and inequality.
Trayvon’s name will ALWAYS be a symbol of an ongoing movement to create a better America.
Trayvon will ALWAYS be remembered. Trayvon WILL FOREVER LIVE ON!
Published on Mar 27, 2012 by Julius Williams
Song by Plies, tribute to lil trayvon martin, shot to death for nothing more than being black with a hoodie on. justice will prevail and all the evil ones that are racist and won’t defend what is right, will surely know justice when the hand of God sweeps across the world.
Chorus:
You’ll forever live on, forever live on !
You’ll forever live on, forever live on!
You’ll forever live on, you’ll forever live on !
You’ll forever live on, you’ll forever live on!
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Yahtzee,
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Xena and Yahtzee,
Catching up, was out of town for a couple of weeks. You both are correct, people do not forget. My grandparents raised me from the time I was 5, until my later teen years. I very well remember the whispered late night conversations between them, and the horrific pictures of the concentration camps I stumbled upon. Later on I questioned them on what I had found. Their pain was quite evident when they pulled out the family tree and half of the branches are bare. I remember a great uncle coming to visit and the tattoo with numbers on his arm. I remember the talk about their wishes about being cremated, make sure they were embalmed first. No we don’t forget.
Trayvon will live on in the heart and souls of many.
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This is one reason why I blog. Knowledge is power.
https://twitter.com/americans4amer/status/460612637730947072
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Zena,
And the majority of people get upset about taking In God We Trust off.
Next they will want it engraved on every gun and bomb made.
It’s an oxymoran, hypocritical.
That’s my opinion
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Hey Lolypop! Great to see you!!
I trust God who said that the love of money is the root to all evil, which is I don’t trust certain types of businesses when it comes to money — like gun dealers. If they really trusted God, they wouldn’t want guns.
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Why even bother asking “Do You Swear to Tell the Truth the Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth, so help you GOD?” I guess mocking God in a court of law has no meaning. I think they should toss that out completely.
I have thought about collecting all the book that juror’s have written about the outcome of a trial where the lied in court and then told the so called “truth” afterwards in a book. I think it would make a pretty good profit. But that money would go to change the laws as in, if you lie in court then write a book that you lied and then come forward with the truth. You will spend time in jail. And then make them pay a hefty fine from all the money they got from the book or books they wrote. Some how this has got to stop. People need to be accountable if things are to change.
This is just my 2 cents.
“The greatest desertion, I from myself” shyloh
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Shyloh, you make an excellent point. Your “2 cents” is worth a million dollars.
There are no consequences for witnesses who perjure themselves in court, especially when the verdict is not guilty. When there is witness perjury and the verdict is guilty, the courts will dismiss the verdict and hold a new trial. There’s a double-standard — lies cannot convict without consequences because a conviction takes the freedom of the accused, but lies can set free without consequences — and to hell with the community and society where the guilty walk free.
The jurors??? Well, it is obvious by their question about manslaughter that they didn’t understand the law, neither did they wait for an explanation before reaching a verdict.
What do we have? Witnesses who say that prosecutors didn’t ask the right questions, and jurors who say that they didn’t understand the law, but reached a verdict in spite of their ignorance. Both say that Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck.
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shyloh,
You are absolutely right.
They know before taking the oath that they’re going to lie and it won’t mean a damn thing.
I also believe since it really wasn’t a trial with everyone lying that they should have another trial and it not be called double jeopardy.
They warn you that if you speak to someone about the trial while on jury duty it will be a mistrial.
With all of the lies coming out of the mouths of the ones tht testified it should be called a mistrial because the jury made their minds up on the lies.
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I just left comment on Amazon. Apparently, I am first. Please everyone post comment there.
John Goode, Reluctant Witness now on amazon. Sigh;-(
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Please please please post your thoughts on Amazon review of this jerk’s book. So far, I am the only one. Put a comment under review and opened discussion.
This is how they are able to change view to what they want. Posting here is good but there needs to be a counter to this lying liar’s book.
He’s a victim??
No, he’s a perjurer and without him tubs would not have gone free.
He is the main witness who let killer get off murdering a kid. Not a victim.
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Sorry 2dog,
I’m not interested in Goodes book and don’t care to get in fights on Amazon with people that hate Trayvon like some bloggers do and on youtube.
I quit trying to argue with others about this insane murder.
I love Xena’s and the JB Mission and try to keep up with them.
Amazon doesn’t care what you write on their comment board. It doesn’t persuade them at all what they buy or sell.
I don’t want to buy or read Goodes book. I watched him lie in court and help GZ get
away with murder. Now I don’t care what he is selling.
He probably feels the same way as he did then. Only difference is he is trying to make money now and get attention.
Not from me, as far as I’m concerned I hope they never get a goodnights sleep.
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Lolypop,
Cosign 100%.
These people who have ‘changed’ their minds are feeling guilty because they know they helped Piglet avoid justice.
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How many times did O’Mara refer to John Good as the eye witness? Because he said he was the eye witness. He said he SAW guy in hoodie rainin blows down on man in orange MMA style”. Without him saying this initially, tubs would not be walking around free.
The state did not present the case or law so of course the jury couldn’t find him guilty and whatever Manola callousness was about bullets used, he never said he saw what happened and he helped Ramorize with his CPR.
Family are suppose to stand by their members so whatever papa zimm and jr. said can be filed under loyalty. I reviewed papa zimm’s book also, title what about other child, I am Cautious Consumer.
I understand and place myself in their shoes and backed Shellie’s lying. Btw, state charged her with perjury. Didn’t we all think that was to make her flip on tubs? Otherwise, what was the point of that? Spouses have absolute immunity…need her to counter his grocery store cooking dinner with wifey story, didn’t they? Because we now know, he wasn’t with Shellie and that was the “explosive” text that was never released.
Ok, to release Trayvon’s texts though. Yes, indeed release victim’s text. That’s the ticket…says no prosecutor ever!
But, state never called her so what was their point of asking his wife about money laundering and not Gracie/ Ken ( Scott)? Gracie and Ken/ Scott were the real launderers. Shellie was trying to comprehend what he demanded.
It was apparent Goode was a somewhat reluctant witness but when defense pushed, he backed his story of seeing Tray on top punching poor innocent puff ball. I would bet state encouraged him to not come clean or he could be charged with perjury just like Shellie.
Maybe that was their purpose in charging her, to show him what can happen when you try to retract your sworn statement.
Lisa Bloom lays it all out in her book. She says in 20 years of legal analysis, she has never seen a prosecution present a case diametrically opposite to the evidence.
I hope people buy HER book and also place a comment under John Goode’s book. This habit of us talking among ourselves is what allows the racists to keep his story prominent in search engines ( mentioned here by a fearless warrior).
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2dogsonly,
Numerous. He was promoted as star witness for the defense even before the trial. I remember us discussing on another blog how Good changed his testimony and how that was going to work at trial — which testimony was he going to give from the bench.
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Video done by professional stuntmen showing impossibility of Goode’s pound and mound story.
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That video is very significant. For one, it would be impossible for the two boo-boos on GZ’s head to be caused by having his head “bashed” while on his back. They are too high up.
At the trial, I saw how O’Mara misrepresented the bashing by using the shoulders of the dummy. And I thought, how on earth was Trayvon suppose to lift tubs by the shoulders? Had he lifted tubs by the head, tubs would have suffered whip lash.
Tubs lied — blame and simple.
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Xena: At the trial, I saw how O’Mara misrepresented the bashing by using the shoulders of the dummy.
And of course the dummy didn’t represent Piglet’s 5’8 200lb body in any way shape or form, but hey that’s another ‘oversight’ by the State.
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Roderick,
Absolutely! Trayvon wouldn’t have been able to pick up Zimmerman’s finger, much less his head.
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It was too dark, John said:
It starts at about 22:00
He couldn’t tell wether it was a per or two, but he saw they were vertical. THEY!!!
He thought at first it might even be a dog, but the second time he heard the noise, it was like the first one only louder.
Every question the DA asked, he answered it was to dark, but he could tell that the person on the bottom had lighter skin and that the person on top was wearing white and the other darker.
BTW, why didn’t the DA drill him on that???
I thought when I heard his and his wife’s testimony that they were lying.
I never believed he was a reluctant witness.
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Hi Lolypop 🙂
Bachelor had W6 clarify the word “vertical”:
Batchelor: How were they positioned? On-
Witness 6: The guy on top was on top of the other guy, vertically.
Batchelor: And you’re gonna have to maybe help me with vertically, when what you’re saying, was he laying down?
Witness 6: Yeah, laying down, yeah. They were on the ground. Like, so if I’m standing up and I lay completely down flat, face first –
Batchelor: Mm hmm.
(Transcript of Witness 6 (John)’s 3/20/2012 interview with FDLE agent John Batchelor, as submitted by Mark O’Mara)
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Hi yahtzee, : )
What I meant was that they didn’t drill him on how he could see some things in the dark and somethings he couldn’t see.
Just let that go.
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Got it. 🙂 Thanks for this, Lolypop.
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Really yahtzee,
They talked more about the T than how dark it was.
I kept wondering when they would ask, how did you see that, as they each said it was so dark.
We got through playing a game of yahtzee,
It’s a favorite around here! : )
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It is a great game!
My handle on internet has evolved from “You all have thoughtful comments” to Yahtc to Yahtzee.
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iS HE GONNA TELL THE SAME RIDICULOUS LIE HE HAS BEEN TELLING FOR 2 YEARS?
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Hey Kelly!!! I haven’t read the book. Based on what I’ve read, Good is crying the blues about how being a witness has changed his life.
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I have a real hard time believing that there was not one person in the neighborhood who did not see either one of them through basically the whole chase until the very end. Yes it was raining, but it was only 7 pm, but do mean to tell me that the whole neighborhood was on lock down, no curtains open, no one outside, no one driving to or from the store, or anywhere. Other than the boy who was walking his dog, the only 2 people out was Trayvon, walking home from the store, who ends up being killed, and Fogen the liar, who is out driving around the neighborhood with a gun.
I live in a gated neighborhood where there are approx. a dozen homes on half acre parcels from the gate until you reach mine. I can tell you tonite at around 730 pm, there were approx. eight kids outside playing hockey in the street, and I saw several neighbors outside coming or going, or walking their dogs, checking the mail, ect. If it were raining, which rarely occurs, they would still be out, and so would I. How many condo’s did they pass, several dozen, and yet not one person saw a thing? Really!!!! I’ll bet on those three streets they have light poles, we have none, nor do we have any sidewalks. We know Trayvon was walking home from the store. Why did Fogen have to lie about what he was doing out, especially in a neighborhood where no one comes out after dark? He doesn’t look like the athletic type, and he wasn’t checking the mail.
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dreamer,
There is a witness who saw GZ jump in front of Trayvon and push him. She spoke confidentially to a journalist. It is my hope that she has interviewed with the feds. If not, I hope she has nightmares about what she saw for the rest of her life.
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Xena,
Wow, I didn’t know that. I hope she spoke with the feds also. It’s my thought that there may be more, but for some reason, mum is the word.
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Due to your great memory for detail! I went back to Axiom Amnesia to see what John Goode actually said in his interview on 2/26/12 .He was very DETAILED on what he saw. THREE Minutes of Exactly what he witnessed.
-Guy in orange being whipped MMA style
-by guy in hoodie.
-Sidewalk head scene pounding
BUT On 3/20/12 when FDLE interviewed him for 40 minutes, story completely changed. Instead, he says he:
-only took one step out
-it was very dark,
-he did not see anything.
-initially thought it was two dogs fighting.
– Closed door,
-came back inside and
– called 911.
It is 100% DIFFERENT from the very DETAILED story he told SPD in his first 3 minute interview. There is a you tube video slowing down this call and by amplifying it, conversation can be heard in the background and it is two men talking. So, it is Jeramy talking with John Goode because you hear Jeramy ask “where”. And Goode answer ” behind me”.
Jeramy begins speaking with a MALE as call picks up two muffled but distinctly MALE voices while Lauer is still on 911 call. Although much is blocked out by redaction of address, it is two MALE voices talking while Lauer is on 911 call.
This had to be PLANNED between Jeramy and John Goode!
Goode’s account was told without one second of hesitation in his voice. Not one bit of stress. Sounds like he could have been reading a script rather than explaining what he witnessed, a murder right outside his back door. Relayed as though he lives in the hood where gun shots are quite normal. Just another Sunday evening in our gated HOA. Nothing to see here– move on, people.
BDLR doesn’t ask him why he said xyz on 2/26 and zyx on 3/20. And O’Mara referred to him as the EYE WITNESS over and over.
Each little piece of what happened is slowly coming out. And it is all due to tubs not being able to STFU. And stay out of the spotlight.
I’m a retired clinical social worker and I really think Goode’s conscience is eating at him otherwise why call attention to his part in letting a child’s killer go free. OJ and Casey Anthony’s family never published books like tubs bffs. This can’t be about money as even best selling authors earn very little (tv interview w/ Mark Geragos and Jeffrey Tobbin). Goode’s Kendall 47 page almost nothing.
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