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It was reported today that a shooting has occurred at Purdue University.
Remains found in Queens, NY, are that of Avonte Oquendo who was autistic, unable to speak, and went missing from school. R.I.P. Avonte. New Jersey politics is still making news. America’s Northeast is under winter storm alert and much of the Midwest is under snow. In response to Martin Luther King, Jr’s Day, stupid remarks have been made, some by Sarah Palin. Russia reveals that “Black widows” are a threat to the Olympics, planning attacks. George Zimmerman has taken to rubbing elbows with people who support him who are known for using racial slurs. And so it goes with current news.
What’s on your mind?
Posted on 01/21/2014, in open discussion, Potpourri and tagged open discussion. Bookmark the permalink. 115 Comments.
What is there to say? Where are we headed? Where is this world going?
The video is awesome …. if we could only do that!!
I think I’m to idealistic yet pessimistic at the same time. That’s what I hope for but I see another reality!!
SMH …. I’m glad I’m as old as I am.
Love you sister!!! From the heart …..
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Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
It could be described “as the world turns” …. what do to????
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Horty! Good afternoon dear friend.
There’s a Greek story about Hercules being called upon to clean a farm area, and he did it by re-directing water from a stream so that it washed away the filth and dung.
So much work, and no Hercules exists, so it’s up to each individual.
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Yes. One step at a time. One person at a time … Man in the mirror. Hugs ….
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Horty,
glitter-graphics.com
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Love it!! Back at ya!! From the heart!
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Shootings….shootings…..shootings
Tears keep flowing across our country.
Please, please make it stop.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/21/purdue-shooting/4719831/
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Oh no, I was so hoping Avonte would be found alive and ok..
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😥
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I have an autistic grandson. Families of autistic kids always fear them wandering off, especially so if they have marginal verbal skills.
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Jueseppi has reported on it.
http://theobamacrat.com/2014/01/21/nypd-body-parts-found-in-east-river-match-missing-teen-avonte-oquendo-media-too-busy-with-chris-christie-bull-shit-to-report-dna-results/
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Too sad. :[
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City Council meeting tonight in Fullerton, CA. Slain homeless man Kelly Thomas’s father Ron Thomas and supporters will be there, and likely protesters will be outside. FPD police chief has pledged to not rehire Jay Cicinelli, one of the officers charged but exonerated in the case, who is seeking his job back, but people want official confirmation from the CC because they can override the PD if they choose to.
Also, during Saturdays’ protest, a protestor walked close to a CBS LA camerawoman and held her sign up. The camerawoman shoved the protester and the protestor shoved her back. Other protesters chased her back to the CBS van and surrounded it, wouldn’t let it move for a short time. For this, the 19-year-old was charged with felony assault, but the camerawoman was not charged. There is a YouTube video of the incident that clearly shows the camerawoman striking first, and it’s posted in many places.
The PD waited until there were only about 40 people present and all major media was gone and regular traffic had dwindled to kettle protesters in the intersection in front of PD and city hall where the protest took place. I was just turning to leave when this happened. Quite interesting and though scary, I was glad to witness it. Mainstream media has reported that the legal gathering was declared illegal, but because no major media were there. are not using the photos taken by citizens and alternative media. FPD claims their hands were forced because of incidents, but it appeared they were wanting to do this for any excuse because they had SWAT teams composed of FPD and PD and vehicles from Placentia and Brea as well. Had to be a planned effort and again, done with little witness from the community or mainstream media. Some of the best photos available are on FB, but set to public view in an album called California Police State at a page called SAPD – Stop Abusing People’s Derechos –
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.794520633907036.1073741829.746715418687558&type=3
Most people then retreated – we were allowed to leave in only two directions and not all four. Many people just retreated to a safe distance to continue watching and filming, but a group of about 20 protestors who were already outside the kettled area approached from one direction and sat down in a line across the boulevard. Ten were arrested for failure to disperse. And many didn’t leave the area but went to Kelly’s Corner at the transit center where he was killed to continue picketing. Police never declared that an illegal gathering, but instead swooped around in the dark to chase people – I witnessed two such raids after dark. In the second and final one that I witnessed, an alternative reporter was arrested simply for videoing police chasing people around, probably an illegal arrest. She was charged with failure to disperse, but again, there was no announcement to disperse, and she probably has a good civil rights case (there are many precendents). An unmarked truck and SUV belonging to SPD also lurked around the protest all day and eventually swept up a few people – one on Sunday, don’t know what for but there are pictures of them grabbing a girl. Officially, there have been 14 arrested for various things, but eyewitness reports suggest that maybe more people have been grabbed – ???
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That is one scary police department, TSTAS!!!
I am glad you are safe and have the chance to get the TRUTH out.
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Two sides, it’s good to hear from you. I read about the cops arresting people at the protests and wondered if you were involved. (whew)
Thanks for the report. Will you attend the city council meeting tonight?
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Thank you for the beautiful video you posted for us.
Yes, let there be peace on Earth and let it begin with me.
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Thanks, am listening now.
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The person shot at Purdue has died.
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1 dead, 1 arrested after Purdue University shooting
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/21/justice/purdue-shooting-report/
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Better sound:
http://www.news4jax.com/news/livestream-from-WJXT/-/475880/4010288/-/qkcw5rz/-/index.html
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So much better! Thanks, Xena!
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Sounds as if he is trying to get around the Sunshine Law. Yes???
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The judge clearly does not want to release Dunn’s jailhouse calls to the public. Then there’s the matter of releasing the names of witnesses. I’m ready for him to rule already!
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This is NOT right!
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I wish they would change the Sunshine Law here in Florida to give Judges the right to withhold evidence releases in high profile cases until the siting of a jury. Sometimes I wonder what the outcome with Z would have been if gag orders had been in place and no evidence was released until the trial.
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towerflower.
I didn’t hear all of the media’s arguments in Zimmerman’s trial, and came in late today at the hearing in Dunn’s case. It seems to me that it’s the media that wants release of information and discovery. It’s what they do with it that can cause problems and public distrust.
One thing is that O’Mara would not have been able to release things that the court subsequently did not allow into evidence. It’s funny, because what the court would not enter, such as Trayvon’s texts and pics from his cell phone, is what Zimmerman supporters still argue today in their efforts to denigrate Trayvon. Hypocritically, they want others to “move on” since the verdict.
As well, some would not have gotten up their hope to see the State enter evidence that had been released during discovery, that was not mentioned at trial. I still want to know why the State released the vid of M&I Bank, but did not bring it up at trial.
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The sound still wasn’t the best. I don’t know what Judge Healey’s ruling was on the release of witness names and the jailhouse phone calls.
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Michael Dunn’s Motion to Continue Trial denied. Trial shall proceed as scheduled for Feb. 3rd.
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That lawsuit was settled today.
http://members.jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-01-21/story/lawsuit-against-state-attorney-angela-corey-settled?utm_source=dlvr.it&%3Butm_medium=twitter#.Ut7c9FES_hw.twitter
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Ugh! I am so darn frustrated with this loser right now. I was reading GZ’s tweets and he’s got my blood boiling!
@TherealGeorgeZ: .@yepyep_uhmm: @TherealGeorgeZ any day now…getting real cocky. You’ll screw up sooner than later.” K cupcake, sweet dreams xoxo!
That SOB’s reply in this tweet is the ending…”k cupcake, sweet dreams xoxo!”
He thinks he is a sneaking little smart azz, like we don’t know that he is mocking Trayvon with that line. He can pretend that he doesn’t know Trayvon said those words to his mother just like he tries to pretend he doesn’t know who Nancy grace is or what HLN is. He can try to fool everybody on which time zone he is living in as well, but he is just too freaking STUPID to get away with it. ( referring to his tweet about missing a 7:00 show because he thought it was “his time” not EST) I hope he is in Texas and thinks it’s funny that he feels safe there. Lol. Sorry to come here bi*ching, but if I didn’t vent somewhere, I would have posted on his twitter and I don’t want my handle on there especially since I’m sure it is being monitored.
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ChrisNY. No problem. You can vent here.
Zimmerman plays stupid, just like he told Hannity that he hadn’t heard of SYG. It came out at trial that he did. Just the fact that he had a conceal carry license requires him to know about Florida’s self-defense law.
And, we know from his jailhouse phone calls that he speaks in code.
We heard the real George Zimmerman on his NEN call. We heard the real George Zimmerman on the jailhouse calls. We’ve seen the real George Zimmerman on video destroying Shellie’s iPad.
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I am convinced that Z throws out comment bombs and sits back and amuses himself reading the replies. He rarely replies to any of the tweets. He just starts the arguments and sits back. I used to work with someone like that, really a sick mind if you think about it.
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GOP candidate calling for Obama’s hanging gets called out by Gov, called in by Secret Service.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/gop-candidate-calling-for-obamas-hanging-gets-called-out-by-gov-called-in/2162059
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Of course he’s a black Republican from Flori-duh!!
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roderick2012. That’s the plot and scheme of sovereign citizen believers in the Tea Party. They didn’t learn from the results of Alan Keys and Herman Cain. The idea that they can place a Republican Black politician to do their dirty work impugns their Party.
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George Zimmerman’s Twitter tirade
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He disgusts me. I know his is just waiting around the corner though, I just know it.
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Hopefully it is Rachael.
I was sitting here imagining him reaching for his gun to intimidate someone again or actually to kill them and they pulled out their own and shot him first. If he’s living in Texas that could definitely happen since most people do carry. They could claim self defense cause he was reaching for his. That would probably work in Texas. But, then I got a sickening thought and I don’t know why I thought of this, but it would be so easy for him to get away with murdering Samantha in their home cause he can do exactly what I just described and just put her gun next to her body. Texas has stand your ground and the castle doctrine. He wouldn’t have the duty to retreat.
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I don’t think I’ve ever ‘hated’ anyone the way I hate him. Pompous MF’er.
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Well, these Twitter comments give us a clue as to how he “composed” the tweets he was questioned about by BDLR at his hearing…the tweets about a Rev. and about Trayvon’s dad.
It also gives us a clue about how he wrote on the “inner” pages of his 2005 MySpace.
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https://twitter.com/SoldierSouthern/status/310997729033740288
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I realize this doesn’t have to do with guns, but I still found it totally disgusting and uncalled for. I guess they have had a crackdown on jaywalking in NYC, and it lead to a bloody beating of this 84-year-old man.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/20/elderly-man-beaten-bloody-by-police-during-new-york-city-jaywalking-arrest/
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What kind of a policeman throws down and injures a harmless 84 year old man?!!
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Rachael, you were right to post that here and thanks for doing so.
Lately, I’ve read about cities and states wanting to increase tourism. Do they realize that no one wants to visit a country that allows police brutality and conceal carry of guns?
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I don’t know if we just didn’t see it before, didn’t care or what, but lately every single day there is at least one, if not more, shooting or some violent action involving even (or especially) police. I talk to so many people from other countries where they don’t have guns and they just do NOT understand the US and do NOT want to come here. And I do NOT blame them.
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Rachael,
Trayvon Martin is who brought us together. For just about all of 2012 and half of 2013, we concentrated on discovery, hearings, and Zimmerman’s lies. Whatever else we heard or knew about was placed on the back burner. Even other SYG cases when an arrest was made, (such as with Jordan Davis) did not take priority over the pending Zimmerman trial.
Now that Zimmerman’s trial is over, we report on other cases. I have a folder of cases that I’ve not written about yet and there are other cases that need follow-up.
Absolutely, and many Americans are no longer traveling to other states as tourists.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/trayvon-martin-and-the-irony-of-american-justice/277782/#comment-962992565
Excerpts (but suggest you read whole article):
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Cody Cousins, 23, is being held in the Tippecanoe County Jail on a preliminary charge of murder in the shooting death of a senior who was also a teaching assistant at Purdue University.
Cousins is an engineering student Cody Cousins, and authorities believe that he targeted the victim, identified as Andrew Boldt, 21, a senior from West Bend, Wis.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/student-held-in-fatal-shooting-at-purdue-university/
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You know, it feels good to be here on Xena’s blog where we are all family….a diverse community made up of individuals seeking, standing up and pushing, pushing for justice, equality and an end to the insanity of all the gun violence.
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Yahtzee. Bless your heart. It feels good to have a diverse community here. I love and appreciate everyone’s support and comments.
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Why is this song ringing in my ears…it was written at the time that the Vietnam War was raging. But to me it is so much deeper. My heart hears it and hears questions like “What is the level of my commitment to just causes, to advocating for victims of violence, to helping to end gun violence, etc?”…..”What am I really going to do to make the world a better place?” “Where is my heart in all of this?”
Here is this song that I keep thinking of:
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Quite a dialogue goes on in this song, doesn’t it?
Many voices speaking back and forth:
Those people advocating for justice, equality, and an end to violence and those people who want to go on committing the horrors and those people who just don’t want to deal with it because it seems hopeless.
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“Boycott threatened over fraternity’s MLK-themed party”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/21/fraternity-mlk-party-arizona-state/4721827/
The photos also show people at the party wearing saggy pants and posing with hollowed out watermelon cups.
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“Purdue shooting suspect Cody Cousins fatally shot Andrew Boldt, cops say”
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=9402085
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http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Police-Search-For-Motive-in-Deadly-Purdue-Shooting-241518501.html
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https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/425854805676802049
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https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/425831516237598720
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This song was written about Mandela. Here Odetta sings it.
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Hello Xena and everyone. I live in NYC where Avonte lived and ultimately was found dead. My condolences to his family. Also the snow was heavier than expected. Sarah Palin is typical of those that speak of MLK today. Revere him now,say he was a republican now,when none of this was done when he was alive. Now Zimmerman is saving puppies. Just draft him for president. Good news murders in Chicago have gone down by 20%. 415-2013,530-2012. The attention and anti violence activism works. Cases to look for. Trial of Michael Dunn,case of Ted Wafer trial of Joseph Walker, appeal decision for Trevor Dooley retrial of Marissa Alexander. Now that murders in Chicago are down,lets see if active shootings go down. Let those of us who speak against racism continue. Let’s hope the lawsuit against Jameis Winston by discredited proven liar Erica Kinsman is dismissed. Have a productive yr.
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m1,
Good to see you.
Thanks for the recap. There is definitely much happening and to look out for. I was up late watching the live stream of the civil council hearing in Fullerton, CA regarding the arrest of protesters because of the verdict in the trials of the two cops who killed Kelly Thomas. One person said something profound. I might not get the exact words right, but it was along the lines of citizens are more afraid of cops than they are of criminals.
Good point about opinions of MLK. Before he was assassinated, people accused and name-called him then just like they do now of President Obama, Eric Holder, Rev. Sharpton and others.
I saw socialism at work last night. Snow plows came down the street several times plowing snow and putting down salt. Darn that Obama. 🙂
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Man shoots self in road-rage incident on I-4
Yes it’s Florida and guns again. A dangerous combination.
Where an Interstate-4 motorist shot himself in a road-rage incident today remained in question for hours as police and sheriff’s deputies tried to determine who should investigate.
Orlando police first treated the shooting as their case about 11:30 a.m. when the man pulled off the highway and stopped his white BMW sedan at the Princeton Street exit near College Park and Florida Hospital, records show.
Within an hour, police turned the case over to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office believing the shooting happened there.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-shooting-orlando-road-rage-20140120,0,619684.story
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Thanks for bring this incident to our attention, Roderick.
Also from article:
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YW, Yahtze. When you live in Florida as I do you have to laugh to keep from crying.
There are so many nuts with guns here.
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Roderick, I ache for you and all those LIVING in Florida who witness all of the injustice.
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roderick,
Does DisneyWorld protect park goers from gun nuts?
Do they have security screening now at the entrance gates?
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Considering that GZ was using Shellie’s gun–
Today:
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/24519764/justices-ponder-straw-purchasers-gun-law
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Yesterday’s hearing in the Michael Dunn case.
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Well, if the DOJ were involved at this early stage, they would be very interested in all of Dunn’s racist rants in his jail calls.
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George Zimmerman is losing it on Twitter. Why hasn’t at least one of his attorneys or former attorneys told him not to engage people who dislike him?
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Do you think he would listen to them, Xena?
Remember when he was talking to Doris Singleton, he commented something like “My father doesn’t think that I listen to him” ?
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They probably did or would if they had anything to do with him, but I’m thinking they don’t and he wouldn’t listen anyways. I agree with tower flower, he is sitting back loving that he is pissing people off. Amazing how he thought he was threatening a woman and them stopped tweeting empty threats to this ponderosa person when he found out “she” was a 6 ft 200+ pound ex military MAN. And he has a little kid that he likes to call lil homie defending him to all these angry people. That kid is in way over his head and the fact that GZ and Samantha allows this and is praising and encouraging this kid is sickening.
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When will our voices, our tears, our cries for justice be HEARD??
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-daniel-saylor-trial-20140122,0,770394.story
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“Memorial Slideshow for Kendrick Johnson”
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Benjamin Crump, Esq. @attorneycrump
Cop Avoids Charge for Shooting Unarmed Young Black Man Who Sought Help – gawker.com/cop-avoids-cha…
about 6 hours ago
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http://gawker.com/cop-avoids-charge-for-shooting-unarmed-young-black-man-1506692164
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44minutes ago
http://www.wbtv.com/story/24510643/charlotte-officer-not-indicted-in-deadly-shooting
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from the article:
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http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/family-jonathan-ferrell-speaks-out-after-gand-jury/ncxq4/
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This is good news that the NC Attorney General is going to RESUBMIT its case against Ofc. Randall Kerrick.
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A little about Johnathan Ferrell:
http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-jonathan-ferrell-ex-football-player-shot-dead-police-charlotte-nc-1408016
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His financee’s interview video is at the bottom of the following article’s page:
http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/tv/cach-heidel-football-player-jonathan-ferrells-girlfriend/
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Mark O’Mara is representing an accused rapist of 13 women.
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Definition of how this makes me feel inside:
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That sick feeling that results in,
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Blaaah…..yep!
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The only person I hate (yes, hate) more than GZ is MO’M. What is wrong with that man? I realize that people have a right to a defense, and it isn’t so much that he defends them, but look what he did with GZ – not only did he thuggify Trayvon, he encouraged the rest of the country to as well. I don’t understand it. The man was in a position to actually put an end to such behavior and make a real difference to society, but instead he encouraged it. He could have helped heal, instead he opened up the wound and just left it there to bleed. And now he is going to do it again? I hate to think what those women and their families will have to go through with this evil being representing the rapist. As horrible as the rapist is, as horrible as GZ is, MO’M is worse – not because he represents them – they are entitled to that – but the way in which he does it. God help the victims and their families. If he does for the rape culture in society what he has done for the gun culture, heaven help us all. The man is evil. Pure evil.
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Quote from MOM: “O’Mara said It’s too soon to have a defense strategy, but “I think this case should be handled with sensitivity to everyone’s involvement throughout the whole process.”
I feel for those women……here he says everything should be handled with sensitivity for the rape victims but he had no problem trashing a teenager.
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I don’t believe him for a moment towerflower. He said similar shit out of one side of his mouth about Trayvon and his family, all the while egging everyone on, he will do the same thing to those women. He will be about as sensitive as an anvil thrown from a 30-foot drop. Just like he has set back racism 30+ years, he will do the same with rape victims – he will say thing out of one side of his mouth while encourage people to say what sluts they were and how they deserved it out the other.
He is a disgrace
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I suspect that O’Mara’s defense will be along the lines of saying the defendant is a good looking guy and has no reason to rape. I do hope that prosecutors produce an expert that distinguishes between sex and rape, because they are not the same.
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022721454_seattlepoliceshootingxml.html
This comes about due to the latest 2 police shootings here – but our police department has a long history, is under investigation, has gotten rid of multiple police chiefs because of such crap. Few years back they shot a homeless guy who was on a corner whittling wood (in his time, he had created some of the totem poles downtown) because he had a gun. Not long ago, they caught on dash cam a Hispanic man who AFTER they had him cuffed and down, kicked him repeatedly and called him racial slurs. I’m beginning to think maybe conceal carry IS a good idea – to be safe from the police. I feel like I’m more likely to be shot from a police officer (or a wannabe like GZ) than I am an average citizen.
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Thanks for sharing this citizen’s oversight program with us, Rachael.
Every police department in our country should have a program like this:
Excerpt from article:
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Crysti made a video. i havent seen it yet
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Something really needs to be done about him.
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Rachael,
This is the man you mentioned.
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http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/crime/2014/01/24/police-officer-road-rage-shooting-juratovac/4828469/
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http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/2014/01/24/michael-dunn-jail-letters-jordan-davis/4836401/
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/25/22444239-three-dead-in-shooting-at-mall-near-baltimore?lite
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Denver-area high school student sets self on firehttp://www.charlestondailymail.com/News/NationandWorld/201401270137
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Teen Clings to Life After Setting Himself on Fire at School
http://americanlivewire.com/2014-01-27-2014-01-27-teen-clings-to-life-setting-fire-school/
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“North Carolina: Four Shot on Playground”
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