Samantha Scheibe Subpoenaed To Testify Before Federal Grand Jury

Samantha Scheibe

Samantha Scheibe

Samantha Scheibe is George Zimmerman’s girlfriend who, as the result of a 911 call that she made, and statement before the police, George Zimmerman was arrested on three charges, including aggravated assault.  Also as a result of Scheibe recanting her story, the case against George Zimmerman was dismissed.

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George Zimmerman

In April 2012, George Zimmerman was charged with the 2nd degree murder of 17 year-old, unarmed Trayvon Martin.  On July 13, 2013, a jury of 6 women found Zimmerman not guilty.  After appearing in court and accepting a plea deal, George’s wife, Shellie Zimmerman, filed for divorce.

Shellie and George

Shellie and George Zimmerman during his 2nd degree murder trial

Shellie Zimmerman had been charged with perjury.  In George Zimmerman’s first bond hearing, Shellie misrepresented her knowledge that George received almost $200 thousand in donations, and that she had transferred significant amounts into her bank account, her sister-in-law’s bank account, and also used approximately $35 thousand to pay debts, many of which were outstanding before February 2, 2012, the day that Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.

In the months after his acquittal, and before the Scheibe situation, Shellie also called 911 to report a threatening and destructive George.  He was not charged in that incident.

Independent journalist Christi O’Connor reports that the evidence she has obtained from different sources is that Samantha Scheibe is represented by a federal criminal defense attorney. That attorney,  Hector Flores, confided four weeks ago that he represents Scheibe on a subpoena to testify before the federal grand jury in Orlando, Florida.

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Trayvon Martin

After Zimmerman’s acquittal, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Department of Justice would continue its investigation into George Zimmerman to determine if he violated Trayvon Martin’s civil rights.  That investigation began in or about April 2012.  In or about July 2012, the FBI released interviews and its opinion that the killing of Trayvon Martin was not racially motivated.  However, the Department of Justice did not close its investigation.  That investigation was placed on hold during the State of Florida’s case against George Zimmerman.

According to O’Connor, most federal grand juries return indictments, and at least 96 percent of federal defendants plea guilty or are convicted.

In federal grand jury investigations, defendants do not appear.  If Scheibe has or does testify, she can be the informant to George Zimmerman of what took place before the federal grand jury when she appears.  She would not be allowed to be inside the grand jury’s room during other testimony, however.

Source:  http://zimmermanverdict.net/

Some of the photos in the video below may be disturbing.

Posted on 01/06/2014, in Department of Justice, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Justice For Trayvon and tagged , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 175 Comments.

  1. This is certainly an interesting development. I don’t know how I missed it, but I’m sure glad you posted it!!!

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  2. Yes!

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  3. Still in the news!!!?? I’m here my friend!!!
    Reblog!! http://hrexach.wordpress.com/

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  4. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    Something happening here!!!

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  5. Two sides to a story

    Christi O’Connor isn’t exactly a reliable source, but let’s hope she’s got it right this time!

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    • Two sides, O’Connor is somewhat vague, but I think it’s because she is writing a book. Her current tidbits are to spur interest so people will purchase the book. Truly, I wish she wouldn’t be vague but for now, we have to accept what she does provide. Some blanks can be filled in, others would be pure speculation.

      For instance, I can fill-in the blank that in general, the feds give suspects opportunity to plea before they take the matter before a federal grand jury. Given the “four weeks” that O’Connor says, this would mean that George probably knew what was happening and that’s when he turned into an artist, hoping for enough money to pay a federal criminal defense attorney, in which Weintraub is one.

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      • Ah, I think you are right about that art money.

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        • Yahtzee. It’s something to ponder, isn’t it? Apparently, Taaffe wasn’t raising nearly enough to pay Weintraub. With the charges dismissed, the legal fees stopped too. George has been free since July 2013 and just out of nowhere, decides to paint a picture and put it on ebay. He could have been doing that 5 months earlier if his only financial need was for living expenses.

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      • towerflower

        I hope your right. But we all know that Samantha is fully capable of lying to protect her “love” (gag). I bet she still doesn’t change her stripes before a grand jury even with the threat of jail……she already risked jail once with her changing her story to the cops.

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        • You forget that the Grand Jury WILL see the tape of her police interview AND listen to her 911 call. Those will carry far MORE weight then anything else.

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        • towerflower, according to the video, it appears that Samantha’s attorney is more concerned with her recorded police interview and her affidavit recanting her story, than what she could or would possibly testify regarding George possibly committing a federal offense. Samantha is in a difficult position. If she holds the position that her statement to the cops was false, she stands to be charged herself with perjury. If she holds the position that her statement to the cops was true, then she has to give a darn good reason for recanting.

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      • Two sides to a story

        Could be. If so, he’s playing it pretty cool.

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  6. Whew! I need time to absorb all of this.

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  7. Yipppeeee Kayaaahhhh !! More Jubilation to follow. I will reiterate that the Feds simply said they did not have enough to guarantee a conviction. They never said it was not racially motivated.

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    • Hey racerrodig,

      All I can see now is a drawing of a racetrack with the FEDS in a sleek racing car and GZ with his attorney in a clunker with the Grand Jury saying, “Start your engines!”

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      • Hey Yahtzee…….When I last spoke with my friend who is a Fed Inv. he said Fogen isn’t getting away with anything…..it takes time. Then he was found not guilty and I, well, all of us, pretty much wanted to puke. Maybe he knows something we will just have to wait a little longer to find out about.

        “Start Your Engines” I like that !!

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  8. Jackie Saulmon Ramirez

    I look forward to the outcome.

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  9. Federal Grand Juries:

    Federal grand juries are organized under the supervision and direction of the chief judge of a federal district court. They are comprised of between 16 and 23 members. The concurrence of 12 members is required to return an indictment.

    And,

    The court has discretion to determine whether or not an indictment shall be kept secret until the defendant is in custody or permitted to post bail

    http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/PI/RHandbook01.nsf/1119bd38ae090a748525676f0053b606/badd5b4fce22d788852569cb004cc254!OpenDocument

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  10. I am so scared to get my hopes up that ANYTHING will happen to this IDIOT! I wish there was something more that I could hang on to.I think I have just become numb & disgusted that he will ever have to pay for ANYTHING he has done wrong.With his parents both in the court system,his uncle in the sheriff dept.(probably more I don’t know about) he seems to come away untouchable from things that anyone else would have different results.He has obviously been doing this for YEARS!

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    • By my calculations…… Zimmy has used 8 of his 9 lives. So if this is true…. it is not looking too good for him.

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      • I believe you’re right !! He got away with shit in VA and FL…..he well be overdrawn in that # of lives dept. And that 96% conviction / plea deal rate doesn’t bode well either. I have several friends who are Federal Agents who are / were involved in the Sanford Police / Civil Rights investigation in 2012. They kept telling me “Patience” even after he was found not guilty…..Hmmmmm ??

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        • Oh I am sure there is more undocumented things we will never know. He is a manipulator. That we see him publically minimizing and showing no remorse tells us he will eventually overestimate his winning streak.
          I think all TM supporters should send Zimmy a four leaf clover via twitter because all his diaper changers are pulling a Chris Crocker since O’Conner’s recent video. lol

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          • Did you mean to write “the GZ supporters”?

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          • I see.

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          • In the end, luck runs out for the bad guys……Karma…….can be a bitch.

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            • yep. I am not sure it was ever luck though or the fact that others keep covering his ass. So what happens when nobody can cover his ass anymore? ♣

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            • hey — are you implying that someone’s ass just keeps bigger and bigger? 😉

              hi danny, have not had a chance to say howdy and welcome yet. consider it done.

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            • He is in hiding and can not exercise. You just wait! When the New Black Panther’s remove the bounty and stop hunting him down he will be a Stud Muffin again! :0P

              Howdy. Thanks for the welcome.

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          • Danny, do you have any insight as to why people have as you put it “keep covering his ass”?

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            • Why his family covers him IMO is because they believe their son and brother’s actions reflect on them, and it is a penitence to their dysfunctional family.

              The women he has relationships with cover him because he mentally and psychologically abuses them.

              His supporters continue to support him and make excuses despite his behavior’s for a few reasons.
              1.Becasue they do not want to be wrong
              2.Becasue they chose the whiter man for an agenda
              3. Because they invested money and it is better for them to prove their investment was worth it.

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          • Thank you for your response.

            Your answers make sense, Danny.

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            • Common sense Yahtzee. That’s all it is. I was very surprised to find that GZ diaper changes never really listened to all the jail house tapes or read the FBI interviews. What other conclusion could be made from all that information? GZ did not go from alter boy with a rosary to Watch Captain with a gun overnight.

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          • Yep, that’s true, Danny.

            Speaking of altar boy, did you ever learn anything about GZ’s time in Manassas other than that reported in the early news articles and his accidentally released academic records?

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            • Actually I found the Zimmerman’s even had traffic violations dismissed. But other then that there was just this 12 year sexual abuse of his cousin. But never mind that she asked for it! s/k

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          • I did not know about those early dismissed traffic violations in Manassas. Think it was speeding?

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            • There was speeding, failure to comply with a traffic control device (red light running), inspection violations. Not him though. Stud Muffin Lover and another Zimm I researched I forget. It is on the public docs. NONE of my devices have a Watchguy folder. I try to go by memory. And I did not research the surrounding areas so….Stud Muffin’s VA. record was “squeaking clean.” Number #2 on the things that make you go hummm post trail Zimmy list of mine.

              Oh… I forgot to mention besides being my being the most awesomest mole/rat on the interwebs, I am also known to not use punctuation, capitals and I think spelling on forums is overrated these days. I hate to toot my own horn…but… toot toot!

              I totally owe Xena a long post on the Danny thread. I promise to have that tomorrow. Geeze I hope I am not that controversial. I have had Danny post too many times to count, and they did not end well as you all can see.

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          • Got it. Thanks.

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    • Marilyn C. I feel you.

      Keep in mind that when it comes to the feds, they have no problem charging people with contempt of court and/or perjury. Just think “Martha Stewart.”

      Witnesses will need to come to grip with either telling the truth before the federal grand jury, or decorating a prison cell.

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      • As I recall. isn’t a Federal Contempt charge prison time until the case is resolved ?

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        • @racerrodig.

          As I recall. isn’t a Federal Contempt charge prison time until the case is resolved ?

          Civil contempt is time behind bars until the person complies with the order of the court. It’s called having the key to your own cell. Is that what you’re referring to?

          Criminal contempt carries a sentence that the judge decides.

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          • In both State and Federal Courts ?? So if SS says “i ain’t talking” the Judge could give her 6 months.

            That has a nice ring to it……..so Fogen gets 2 women in legal hot water…..what a guy…what a guy.

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            • Racerrodig. If a person is subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury, and they fail to appear, a warrant is issued, the person is arrested and held in jail until the next hearing to testify.

              If a person appears and fails to testify, unless it’s by pleading the Fifth, they can be ordered to jail until they agree to testify. Even when pleading the Fifth, there is usually argument to see if it applies.

              They should not make the mistake of thinking that “jail” means federal prison, because it means the local county jail. They may not be too happy being in county jail indefinitely since they “have the key” to their cell.

              so Fogen gets 2 women in legal hot water

              What is it we have said all along? Zimmerman is toxic.

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  11. I wanted to say off topic….. some areas are going to have some dangerous weather tonight and all the way into Wends. Some areas are calling for wind chills -45 while others are expecting -15 thru -20. Be safe and please remember not to leave your animals outside .

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    • Thanks for your comment, Danny!

      I am praying for everyone’s safety.

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    • Thanks Danny. We’re at -17 without the wind chill factor.

      I moved bottle water and cold drinks to the garage to make space in the fridge for additional food. I had to move the bottled water back inside because it began to freeze. That’s just how cold the garage got, and its walls are insulated.

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      • Wow. -17 already! We are not even close yet. Lots of wind and 5 degrees not minus yet). I keep gallons of Tea on my deck and they had to come in before they cracked. I house stray cats outside well my kids do and I had to put the heating pad on for them and cover the shelter with more blankets. The kids around here have a 2 hr delay and they called that notice in even before the kids were out of school today!

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  12. Did everyone else pick up on O’Connor’s statement that GF is prego? Or, was she talking about earlier claims? God I hope this asshole doesn’t have an offspring – the last thing this world needs.

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    • Two sides to a story

      First a child at 16 and then one with GZ. Great track record. She’s waxing euphoric about her family on Twitter. She’s high on the notoriety for sure.

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  13. well, this is certainly very interesting. cannot wait to see what develops!

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  14. As excited as this news makes me, I really don’t want to get too excited – I mean how many times have I/we thought for certain it was going to come down?

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    • I hear you, and we each have to decide what is best for us individually.

      As for me, I BELIEVE that the light of justice is finally going to shine! 🙂

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      • I believe! I do! I do!

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        • Remember Myrlie Evers-Williams finally saw justice served.

          Fifty years later on the campus of Ole Miss, the description of Evers-Williams as long-suffering and forgiving is in one way patently false. More than any of the other civil rights widows, Myrlie Evers showed America her rage. She let the nation see her unfiltered emotion when two all-white juries refused to convict Medgar’s killer, during a time when black anger was not an acceptable display of emotion. She wrote a book and began it with this line: “Somewhere in Mississippi lives the man who murdered my husband.”

          Evers-Williams eventually saw to it that the shooter was brought to justice.

          Memories are never far, but with that justice came a transformation and transcendence of grief. So, too, did she rise above the tropes of widowhood that sought to define and limit her as a woman.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/myrlie-evers-williams-returns-to-mississippi-as-more-than-a-civil-rights-widow/2013/06/04/aa644102-cc84-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html

          Lesson? We all have to keep pushing!

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    • Rachael, I know what you mean. One reason I stay positive is that back in December 2012, a very credible reporter informed me that the DOJ was investigating and had never stopped.

      The FBI is capable of going undercover. They will work in that manner for months as long as they believe it will lead to evidence of criminal violation(s). Then too, I remember after the verdict in July, Papa and Mama Zim told Barbara Walters they were not going to communicate with George for fear of wire taps. Logically, if there is no evidence to support that George violated Trayvon’s civil rights, and/or no evidence that they were complicit in falsely testifying at his trial, nothing should keep them from communicating with their son.

      There are things we now know that we didn’t during Zimmerman’s case, such as Shellie had left that Saturday evening. The State no doubt knew that, why, and that information will be beneficial before the federal grand jury.

      There’s Jeremy, who was going to get a knife and take outside with him. He was not called to witness during the State’s case. Could his testimony be important before the federal grand jury?

      Then too, there’s the mantra that all burglars in the Retreat at Twin Lakes were Black, but there was a White guy with Burgess when the cops arrested him, and that White guy actually had possession of the stolen laptop. Lonnie Starr wrote many pieces on the 3 stooges in the 7-Eleven possibly being the 3 guys with Burgess. O’Mara petitioned the court to issue subpoena to the 7-Eleven for receipts to identity that guy, and then he went silent. Would the fact that NOT ALL burglars in the Retreat at Twin Lakes be sufficient before the federal grand jury? Were the guys with Burgess subpoenaed to testify before the federal grand jury?

      The charges against Adam Pollock were recently dismissed — (nolle pros) by the State, after arranging for a jury. That means they can file again, but why not proceed to trial? After trial, Adam came on television and said that George thanked him for saving his life by teaching him to “shrimp.” Was Adam subpoenaed to testify before the federal grand jury?

      I could go on and on, but knowing that a federal grand jury is hearing evidence is encouraging. Federal prosecutors do not waste time coming before a federal grand jury unless they have nails to nail the coffin shut.

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      • “Federal prosecutors do not waste time coming before a federal grand jury unless they have nails to nail the coffin shut.”

        This is the key !!!!!!!!

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        • It’s the hammer of justice

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        • racerrodig.

          This is the key !!!!!!!!

          Also, I have to wonder why O’Mara REALLY purchased a building for the exclusive purpose of working on Zimmerman’s case. (hint, hint, hint)

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      • roderick2012

        The charges against Adam Pollock were recently dismissed — (nolle pros) by the State, after arranging for a jury.

        Ha, ha, ha I was wondering if the charges against Pollock had been dismissed. That was his reward for perjuring himself for Piglet.

        Crazy is right about Papa Zimmerman. That man has some serious influence, and I believe he has some connections in the intelligence community.

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        • Roderick,

          Crazy is right about Papa Zimmerman. That man has some serious influence, and I believe he has some connections in the intelligence community

          That could be, and I will add a bit more. One of the things that the late Sherman Skolnick wrote about is that certain people are not placed in certain positions, including politics, unless they are blackmailable. The threat of releasing certain information is what compels their compliance.

          George worked for a company that most likely provides a subscription source for obtaining information on those applying for mortgages. It’s not general background info but includes social security numbers, driver license numbers, liens, etc. George could have used that source to gather information on his neighbors and/or others and threaten to use it to defame them unless …..

          He no longer works for that company, but does Sondra Osterman? That is the question.

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  15. Here is Xena’s article for us to review:

    “Prosecuting Hate Crimes”

    https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/prosecuting-hate-crimes/

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  16. Well, oconnor posted Samantha’s fed defender’s name so I am hoping she has correct info!
    Hey Samantha welcome to tubs’s world. He screws everyone who enters and never expresses the slightest bit of gratitude. She might not be willing to BS the Feds with the additional other girlfriend, Kimmie, texts being public.

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  18. Would like to know your thoughts on whether or not GZ’s twitter is actually run by him? I know the ebay paint by number claimed it was him. He has tweeted the amount of the HOA settlement. I do not want to add the tweet here. It is enough Annette’s mug is on the previous thread.

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    • Danny,

      Would like to know your thoughts on whether or not GZ’s twitter is actually run by him?

      If not, he should have Junior do a “From the desk of …” and set the record straight.

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      • Oh you mean the “not the spokesperson’ but speaks on behalf of his family, Robert Zimmerman Jr.? The singer RZ.J ohhh. well then I think he should call up Hannity and set the record straight! Hannity and GZ are best friends.

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        • Danny.
          Hmmm. Now that you say that, things have certainly been quiet with Junior and Taaffe lately.

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          • Hmmmm # ( I lost count) of post trial Mr. Red White and Blue Humm moments. Our ever dear friend Jessica, another of the gifts that just keeps on giving, was donating to George Zimmerman’s second “Leave STUD MUFFIN ALONE” fund club through a Salt Water Taffy ‘Fan site.” When I raised the issue the site is not even created an run by Salt Water himself I was swiftly corrected that the FAN was endorsed by Taaffe.
            Oh sure that must be the seal of approval. Least not ANYONE be reminded had God HIMSELF not willed Zimmerman to view Trayvon walking by Taafee’s at the moment Zimmerman was “on his way to the store after cooking dinner for his wife”, as suspicious Trayvon would be alive. Does God have a twitter so I can confirm this?

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            • Danny,

              Does God have a twitter so I can confirm this?

              Nope, he doesn’t. He knows our hearts and minds and when we need answers, just ask the questions. Sometimes the confirmation comes through others, sometimes by dreams, and sometimes just with confidence that we know that we know.

              Be forewarned however, if you believe this, you might be labeled a spiritual nut. 🙂

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            • “Be forewarned however, if you believe this, you might be labeled a spiritual nut”

              Galatians 5:22-26
              But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

              I guess if folded hands means war … count me in!

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            • For the weapons of our warfare …
              1Cor 10:4

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            • a God Hummm. huh….

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            • Forgiving the fool who built his house on sand instead of Rock is where Job comes in. That is hard. But it can be done.

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            • @danny who inquires

              Does God have a twitter so I can confirm this?

              but, of course 😉

              https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod

              that’s where i get in touch with him. hope i’m not branded a heretic for posting this 😉

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            • You freaking blasphemer!
              J/K
              I don’t have a twitter so…..
              God I hope you read blogs and forums! You can email me too!

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          • Fauxmccoy. It’s okay. I’m called a heretic for believing in the reconciliation of all things.

            Talking to God

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  19. Is there a law against talking abusively about those you believe are mentally handicapped?

    https://twitter.com/support4GZ/status/420400510282117120

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    • Evidently some are also going after some of Z’s non-supporters…..getting lawyers and cops involved, for threats made against them and Z.

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      • I saw that. I hope if Branca got the Feds involved they check him out too. And while the Feds are at it they should send the DOJ to collect some stuff for the Fedral Grand Jury. I am predicting we soon will see many of those people either close down their twitters or lock em.

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  20. Matt Kaiser, a Washington DC federal criminal defense attorney at The Kaiser Law Firm PLLC, discusses how a lawyer can add value if you have received a federal grand jury subpoena.

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    • I had not caught the attys names O’Conner claims is representing in a possible indictment. Did you? Being Gz loves legations as a way to be relevant. I believe anyone up against his PR is censored with lawsuit threat.
      Also, (open to anyone) where do you suppose the NBC case is going? Do you think GZ posted the HOA details (unconfirmed) for nefarious reasons or reason because he is attempting to settle with NBC? And what is your take on the sanctions actions O’Mara filed during the trial?

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      • Danny,
        Caught me just as I was beginning to shut down and get some shut eye. LOL

        had not caught the attys names O’Conner claims is representing in a possible indictment. Did you?

        Only for Samantha’s subpoena, and it’s in the above article; Hector Flores. His office is just down from Jayne Weintraub’s.

        Also, (open to anyone) where do you suppose the NBC case is going?

        No where. Maybe after the grand jury, if they don’t indict, it can proceed. Zimmerman cannot chance giving deposition with a federal investigation underway.

        Do you think GZ posted the HOA details (unconfirmed) for nefarious reasons or reason because he is attempting to settle with NBC?

        Because he’s jealous, and MAYBE because he wants O’Mara held in contempt of court for disclosing confidential info to him.

        And what is your take on the sanctions actions O’Mara filed during the trial?

        O’Mara has had his fill of George Zimmerman. He is a lawyer and knows that it makes no sense to argue for sanctions on allegations that evidence was withheld when the court ruled that the same evidence could not be entered at trial.

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        • I do believe he may be blowing smoke because he is pissed at O’Mara because O’Mara/West are billing him. GZ now needs ALL of his supporters to “expose” his prior atty. like the OutHouse had so he again look like the “victim.” I am waiting for Nettles and D.P to start bashing O’Mara and West.

          As far as the NBC suit? I believe it will not be going anywhere either. It was my theory Beasley has a stipulation with GZ that GZ would refrain from media after trial. I am positive his rash of run ins put his defamation suit in jeopardy. Now that he has “come out” on twitter it a good indication my suspicions may be right.

          I am conflicted deciding where the sanctions may lead. Corey is under ethics investigation. So is O’Mara.

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          • Danny,

            I do believe he may be blowing smoke because he is pissed at O’Mara because O’Mara/West are billing him.

            Yes, billing him and not being at his beck and call for everything. O’Mara made an appearance at Dean’s house that Shellie and George were renting, and then bailed on George. How much is the man suppose to keep doing for free? I’m not an O’Mara fan but regardless, George is wrong to take his services for granted.

            As far as the NBC suit? I believe it will not be going anywhere either. It was my theory Beasley has a stipulation with GZ that GZ would refrain from media after trial.

            Think of it this way too — the Beasley law firm has tired of George wanting to sue the fish in the sea if he feels they don’t like him.

            I am conflicted deciding where the sanctions may lead. Corey is under ethics investigation. So is O’Mara.

            Then too, there’s the guy who is suing Corey for wrongful termination involving the same issues as the motion for sanctions but ultimately, O’Mara and West would need to prove that withholding purported evidence harmed their defense of George — and it didn’t. The court didn’t allow the entry of that purported evidence. It was part of the Zimmerman circus to play to people for money. They got the circus, didn’t pay for the rides, and O’Mara has handed George the bill.

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          • Two sides to a story

            I’d say about 90% of OM and West’s theatrics were designed more to keep money flowing to the begsite. I don’t think they ever had any intention of following through on any sanctions unless they lost the case. Why bother now?

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      • the NBC case?

        ta hell in a hand basket, i presume

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        • Yeah, I think you are right. I think it has been established he no longer is a private individual and his reputation was not in good standing prior to clip. NBC took corrective action as well.

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          • NBC has vowed to fight the lawsuit and will not settle. While they edited out one question by the dispatcher, the responses were all Z’s and the words of his were not piece edited together to make it appear he said something that he never did.

            MOM also gave one of his numerous interviews after the filing and stated that Z was forced to go into hiding because of NBC when it can be proven that he went into hiding the minute he left the police station that night and weeks before the NBC segment aired.

            From the local “law experts” most have said that MOM’s claims are very weak against NBC.

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  21. GZ tweeted the amount of the HOA settlement? If anyone doesn’t mind, can you tell me how much it was?

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    • I believe he said it was $1.6 million. It has not been confirmed.

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      • Danny is correct he said 1.6M, but it was well known in the papers, back in April, that the settlement was in excess of 1M.

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        • Thanks for the info here and in your above comment. There was a time before and during trial I was dealing with medical issues and the death of my Mom and I glossed over info or just was not retaining it. Some stuff I never caught up with.

          I think the “saftey” issue of the Zimmermans was exaggerated. Even on the jail house calls while talking to his sister about bond, he mentioned no fear for his life from any “threats”. When his sister said she felt better that she did not have to worry about his saftey he said he was fine where he was at prior to his arrest.
          His parents went on TV and hid their faces but they too were already in hiding.
          But then on the other hand, prior to his release from bond things changed and he created this elaborate release from jail, protection for his family, expensive security etc. He made it look like he was afraid to remain in Florida. But, even after aquital he has remained IN FLORIDA! In fact all the Zimmermans have.

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          • Actually, according to Osterman, it was Osterman that told Z that he wasn’t safe and needed to leave his home immediately. He told him that friends or family of TM would come looking for revenge and he needed to leave for his own safety and for Shellie’s safety. He did this even before TM had been id’d.

            But it was better to have everyone assume that people were hiding behind every corner to take revenge. Even with MOM trying several times to have his bond modified so that he could 1. leave the confines of the county and 2. leave the state for his own safety. That is why I find it totally unbelievable that he was ever in any real danger when after his last arrest he not only was still in Florida but still in the same county that he was in such fear of. Not only that since his trial there have been 2 911 calls against him and 0 from him talking about a stranger following him or confronting him.

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            • Exactly. Now as you can see a supporter of his allegedly has filed a report of threats to the police. GZ has zero.

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            • No they didn’t close their investigation. Just put it on hold until after the trial was finished.

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            • What I should have said was the FBI case that investigated racial bias under the States law. This investigation is the Federal one. The State investigation is closed and they found no racial bias as the motivating factor behind the shooting.

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          • towerflower

            yeah, and the “harasser” lives in Australia. I wonder what kind of legal action you can take when it’s halfway around the world.

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            • It is very difficuly but not impossible to get criminal action for cyber harassment when it is ocurring interstate. Internationallyfat chance. One would need Interpol or the DOJ. So unless Brancas “harasser” hacked a gov. computer the file is already in the trash from the LEA he contacted. But, the good thing is he put himself on his LEAs radar!

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            • Anyone can file a report with the police. In most jurisdictions when there has not been a violent crime committed and the report is not actually filed by a police officer, the report rests on the desk in the detective division until they get to it. If whomever makes the decision to proceed, it is then assigned to a detective. Only if the detective believes that they have jurisdiction is it then investigated. Based on findings of the investigation, it may or may not be given to the District or State Attorney’s office who may or may not file charges.

              When the harasser lives outside of their jurisdiction, they will advise the victim to contact the jurisdiction where the harasser resides.

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  22. here is his tweet…..sorry I don’t know how to do the paste of a screen shot.

    George Zimmerman ‏@TherealGeorgeZ 14h
    “@VP_Renewsit: @bwhite4363 how much aiding in railroading a guy goes for these days. @TherealGeorgeZ” 100k, before they got $1.6m from HOA

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  23. Word has gotten back to him about Christi’s video……

    George Zimmerman ‏@TherealGeorgeZ 4h
    I wish I could answer “who is Kristy Conner?” But I have no idea. I hope my supporters take the high rd & don’t harass her husband & kids.

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  24. @towerflower,

    What a dirtbag GZ is. He thinks he’s being slick by hoping his enablers take the high road and don’t harass her husband and kids when in fact he’s actually issuing a veiled passive agressive threat against her.

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    • another tweeter hinted at the same thing. Kinda goes into some of his supporters saying that they have been doxed and threatened by TM supporters. Some are saying they are taking legal action.

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    • ” I hope my supporters take the high rd & don’t harass her husband & kids.”

      FogenPhoole code deciphered as “go for it”

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    • I agree that those are veiled messages.

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      • Veiled? Absolutely, because since he claims not to know who O’Connor is, why would he assume she has a husband and kids?

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        • I wonder if because of this Federal Grand Jury investigation if some of his supporters could be called to testify because of their close contact with him? Emails and such? It seems some of them have had close contact with S.S. too.

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          • Danny,

            … if some of his supporters could be called to testify because of their close contact with him? Emails and such?

            Probably not because investigators will have whatever communications George submitted.

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        • That’s what I was thinking….another Freudian slip by FogenPhoole I guess. Like when he said “….I covered his mouth….he was covering my mouth…”

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          • racerrodig,

            Like when he said “….I covered his mouth….he was covering my mouth…”

            Oh yeah, along with, “He screamed for help.” “When I walked back towards him …”

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  25. A question…

    Would the FBI agents investigating GZ be from the area around Sanford, or does the FBI send in agents from outside Florida?

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    • Yahtzee,
      It could be local, it could be county or city LE loaned to the FBI on assignment, it could be not local undercover, it could be a civilian informant.

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      • Thanks for your answer, Xena.

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      • Our other gift that keeps on giving D.P. created conspiracy around O’Conners email from the Sgt. He says O’Conner modified the email. It does appear she whited out something after S.S.s attys name. I believe it is just a minor inconsequentional fix. But, this was enough for Annette to email this Sgt. to demand what is whited out and also to ask if the Federal Grand Jury subpoena has anything to do with GZ….lol. Who else could S.S. know that is being investigated by a Federal Grand Jury? What are the odds? Geeze.

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        • Danny,

          Our other gift that keeps on giving D.P. created conspiracy around O’Conners email from the Sgt. He says O’Conner modified the email. It does appear she whited out something after S.S.s attys name. I believe it is just a minor inconsequentional fix.

          It could be a redaction of something that the public does not need to know.

          But, this was enough for Annette to email this Sgt. to demand what is whited out

          Unless she’s an investigative journalist, author, or a party to the email, it’s none of her business. O’Connor did a video based on what she believes the public needs to know, what she needs to support her report, and what will promote her book. It’s her video and she is the proper person to question about editing.

          and also to ask if the Federal Grand Jury subpoena has anything to do with GZ….lol. Who else could S.S. know that is being investigated by a Federal Grand Jury? What are the odds? Geeze.

          Logic and common sense.

          I understand that D.P.’s position is that Sam wouldn’t know anything about Zimmerman and his actions on 2/26/12. Sam had a reason to say that Zimmerman always gets away with things. The federal grand jury will want to hear her explain what she means by that, in addition to her knowledge of George from the time they met in Virginia.

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          • “I understand that D.P.’s position is that Sam wouldn’t know anything about Zimmerman and his actions on 2/26/12. Sam had a reason to say that Zimmerman always gets away with things. The federal grand jury will want to hear her explain what she means by that, in addition to her knowledge of George from the time they met in Virginia.”

            I didn’t think of that. Thanks. But they could also ask her what he told her about the night of 2/26/12 if I am not mistaken?

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            • Danny,

              I didn’t think of that. Thanks. But they could also ask her what he told her about the night of 2/26/12 if I am not mistaken?

              Oh yes. Anything George has said to her can be asked.

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        • Two sides to a story

          LOL – Nettles thinks she’s clever. Duh.

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      • Xena,
        Do you think they are investigating the TM case or something else?

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        • Danny,
          As I understand it, the investigation is into whether George Zimmerman violated Trayvon’s civil rights. We should not limit that to how it ended with killing Trayvon and ZImmerman’s self-defense claims but rather, from the start of where he called NEN. Civil rights violations are determined based on state of mind. They can also be determined based on conspiracy to violate federal protected rights.

          The video below approaches that. On 2/26/12, Zimmerman diverted from his pattern when calling NEN. During the advocacy of those such as his dad, Joe Oliver, Junior and Taaffe, they would rely on what George omitted. That gives good reason to believe that the omission was deliberate.

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          • I was thinking about how they would succeed with and indictment. I had suspected they would and can go from the moment GZ said TM was suspicious. More importantly WHY he thought TM was suspicious . Even if the racial aspects for a hate crime are not sufficient and can not be met under the law, GZ stated he found TM suspicious because there was break ins. WHY was GZ suspicious at that moment? Because GZ states TM was near Taaffes where it was reported GZ saw a black youth scoping it out weeks before. But in his police interviews he said he never saw TM before. That was repeated a few times. So there was no reason for GZ to follow TM when TM moved away from Taaffes. No reason to interfer with TMs legal travel, or find out where he was going.

            Off of the Federal Topic:
            I never found TMs character to be relevant because AT THE TIME TM was not doing anything wrong. Even by GZs accounts he wasn’t. I apply legal not moral standard to the fact GZ left the vehicle. May not be criminal, but it is civil negligence because of what he reported to NEN before even getting out of the car, the fact he already had police dispatched, and the fact he did not consider TM may have been a resident.
            I can not prove but I have doubt he exited the car with the intention of shooting TM. I do not doubt at all he criminally profiled TM.

            From the point of the encounter filling in the blanks is speculation and without proof I can not resolve anything besides that he shot in self defense. I do not believe the encounter happened exactly how GZ says though because if he saw him at Taaffes he did not call police at Taaffes as he was leaving and he had to turn around to end up at the Club house (where video shows he did not park there like he said). Evidence shows he kept turning around. He had to. So do I think he violated TM rights? Yes. Do I think he intended to follow him to shoot him? No. Do I think GZ was negligent? Yes.

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            • Danny,

              From the point of the encounter filling in the blanks is speculation and without proof I can not resolve anything besides that he shot in self defense.

              Two things. One, before Zimmerman’s trial, I went over the Dooley case where the jury decided that Dooley was the initial aggressor because he left his garage and approached James and thus, self-defense didn’t apply. M1, who comments here, challenged me on whether the Zimmerman jury would decide the same because of racial bias. After the verdict, I humbly admitted that M1 was correct — I was incorrect, and then we re-visited the Dooley case. https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/dooley-and-zimmerman-cases-same-law-different-verdicts-why/

              Two, the self-defense conclusion can only be drawn based on Zimmerman’s story as to how the wounds occurred. If there is forensic evidence that brings doubt to his story, then his story doesn’t make sense and is not true.

              Anthony Gorgone tested stains for blood, and then tested the blood for DNA. There was mixed DNA on George’s jacket, some undetermined and some of which Trayvon was excluded. That means someone else, besides George and besides Trayvon, bled and their blood was on George’s jacket. That logically means that George was in a fight, but not in a fight with Trayvon.

              The scalps on some of the scratches that appear in the cop-shop photos also question their age. George had been in a fight, but not on 2/26/12 with Trayvon Martin.

              Now the nose? It’s always been my position that the gun’s recoil hit him in the nose. Had his nose been bleeding before his described “ground and pound,” there would have been blood splatter on Trayvon’s hoodie. The only blood from George to Trayvon was found on Trayvon’s sweatshirt that he wore underneath his hoodie. That could have gotten there after George killed Trayvon and while he was on his back feeling him up.

              Then too, George shows us that he lost a firm grip on the gun. There’s also that matter of GSR being found on the back of his right sleeve.

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          • Danny,

            George had a history of rage issues, Frank Taffee said GZ was fed up and wasn’t going to take it anymore, and George said “f…..ing coons” as he was carrying a loaded gun after he rushed out of the car to follow Trayvon.

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          • If you click the word “playlist” in the top corner of this video by LLMPapa and then select #3, you can hear GZ saying “f….ing coons”

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          • Danny, rather than relitigating the case, let just agree to disagree on the self defense question.

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      • The Feds loaned 2 from Philly (I know them) back in 2012 to investigate the Sanford Police and the Civil Rights aspect.

        My sons godfather, before he retired went all over the country with investigations as an IRS Criminal Investigator.

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    • Here is how Florida Grand Juries and Federal Grand Juries are structured.
      http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/PI/RHandbook01.nsf/1119bd38ae090a748525676f0053b606/badd5b4fce22d788852569cb004cc254!OpenDocument

      “Federal grand juries are organized under the supervision and direction of the chief judge of a federal district court”
      I believe a Federal Prosecutor starts the process I am unsure if the FBI is involved because it also says: “Special federal grand juries may be impanelled by the chief judges of the various federal districts to investigate criminal activity”. It may be the DOJ which is a different branch with different legal authority who initiated this. From my understanding the FBI closed their investigation.

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  26. towerflower

    nettles18 is also chiming in……
    Nettles18 ‏@Nettles18 17h
    @GZWarrior I have. I asked if there is any evidence that Sam’s subpoena has anything to do with Zimmerman. @support4GZ

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  27. towerflower

    Pirate News Network‏@support4GZ @samantha_khope Can you tell us whether or not you have been subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury and if it pertains to George?
    Samantha Scheibe ‏@samantha_khope 4h

    @support4GZ I was not aware of this email. My attorney asked for the information because the police never gave me copies of anything.

    So Samantha has a federal attorney just so he can contact the police for copies, lol, notice how she never answered the question.

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    • towerflower,
      Interesting. Sam never answered the question because she is not suppose to talk about being subpoenaed. Also, there’s only so much that can be said in 140 letters. LOL!!

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  28. towerflower

    Xena……found this while out for a ‘troll.

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/article/340666/3/Motion-filed-to-revoke-Marissa-Alexander-bond

    Paperwork filed to have Ms. Alexander’s bond revoked for violation of her bond. She left home detention to run errands she did not have permission to go on. ie. runs to the airport, clothes shopping, getting hair done, etc.

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  29. She’s a wack job. She went to her car, got a gun and shot at her husband and her step child. The child said she thought she was going to die. She missed them…all that media about she got 20 yrs. and didn’t even injure her husband was wrong. He was the one who called the police.They let her out on bail and while she was out, she attacked her husband giving him a black eye. They offered her a 3 year sentence which she turned down.
    She tried to say she came back in with her gun because she couldn’t get out of the garage. The investigators found no mal- function with the garage door opener. She gives real DV victims a bad name.

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    • I am conflicted on this case. On one hand there was a history of DV where she had a reasonable fear of harm, yet at the time her husband was not threatning her. This is not a SYG case though. She reentered the home and he was not a threat at that time. She did not have to shoot at him. What is crazy about this case is that mandatory min. law does not allow a judge to impose an appropriate sentence.

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  30. Yes, that is an issue but they did offer her a 3 year plea bargain which she turned down. She’s a female fogan. I live in jax. And this was on the news long before tubs killing Trayvon.

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    • Two sides to a story

      That she didn’t honor the conditions of her release is telling. I’m sure many of her supporters are quite disappointed. A lot of people worked hard to push for another trial. Why would she want to jeapordize a good thing? Only someone with a character problem or an emotional problem would do so.

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      • I went downtown to participate in a walk I thought was for Dream Defenders, turns out it was not one of the 100 cities and boy was it obvious. The majority of people were there for that wacko Marisa Alexander. They were only interested in sitting in AC’s office to protest the fact she ” didn’t even hurt anyone and yet she got 20 yrs.” I explained to people “she missed”. She wasn’t shooting a warning shot at the ceiling. The amount of mis-information was huge. I just returned home and double checked the status of Jax. for one of the 100 cities listed for a walk for Dream Defenders walk..sure enough Jax. was not one of the 100 cities. False advertising. I was so disappointed.

        Learned a lesson..double check!! I told some of my twitter followers and promptly lost them. I don’t know who was the media selling her ” story” and that is in quotes for Xena’s sake ( fill in what I really want to sat). She is as bad as they come and as entitled to what she wants as tubs is.

        She came to his home, they had breakfast, he double checked her cell phone and became suspicious if the baby she had just had was in fact his. He took the fall, lying about hitting her to prevent her from going to jail.
        I don’t know anything about him and from what little I read, he is no angel…he said he had abused women but there was ” one” he had never struck. It being Alexander. I am just relieved she has broken her home arrest criteria so quickly. She is a very dangerous woman.

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  31. Sam’s attorney will put the fear of god in her to NOT talk to anyone. Nettles is dreaming if she thinks Sam will answer any questions. The attorneys are very very firm on getting their clients to understand they are not to answer any questions or discuss their case with anyone. Period!! And they mean anyone.
    Her attorney will have already called her back instructing her to STFU or she will be finding a new lawyer and won’t get any money paid back. They are experts at driving this home.

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    • 2dogsonly. Sorry. Because of settings to prevent filthy comments from harassers, Word Press sent your comment into moderation because it contains “STFU”.

      It has now been set free. 🙂

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  32. Thank you Xena! Me say anything filthy?? A sweet faced little old granny like me. I am shocked shocked I say!!! 😉
    Wish I could do some of your adorable thingys!

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  33. I wonder if they subpoenaed Special Agent James Majeski who telephoned Kenneth W Marr at the FBI digital evidence lab on 04-2-2012 and canceled the audio event chronology report on the 911 calls which would have documenting GZ’s accomplices and that Jeremy communicated with the shooter, and Trayvon yelling out “I’m begging you, get off”. Why did Majeski shut down that report? Because they didn’t want the truth to come out. They didn’t want it known that Jeremy Weinberg and Mark Osterman are involved.

    On GZ’s call at 3.5 seconds Mark Osterman whispers “do ya think I’m crazy”, when the word crazy is still being spoken then GZ starts talking, “hey, we’ve had some break-ins and there is this real suspicious guy”. That is documented and validated by Dr. Reich. At 2:44 into GZ’s non-emergency call you hear bang bang bang then GZ whispers to his accomplice “sh-t, give me your light”. On Jenna’s call at the beginning Travyon yells out “I’m begging you, get off” then the screen door slams shut, that is documented by Dr. Reich as well.

    At 0.23 into Jenna’s call the screen door slams again with Jeremy coming inside and then he doesn’t stop talking in the background. At 1:02 Mark Osterman whispers to Jenna who is yelling at Jeremy to GET IN HERE, “he’s dead”. At 1:30 Jeremy is on the phone with Amanda and he confesses that he communicated with the shooter, “he warned me he’d shoot him” then at 1:32 Osterman responds to what Jeremy told Amanda and says, “why kill him”. At 1:43 on Jenna’s call a male voice yells out the name “Mark” with no overlapping audio events. At 1:57 on Jenna’s call a crying Mark Osterman says “why kill him” and the final “he’s dead” happens at 2:12,

    There are a total of 5 “he’s dead” whispers and 2 “why kill him” on Jenna’s call. There is more I could list but these are more than enough for prosecution to secure convictions on GZ, Jeremy, and Osterman, then charge Jenna with obstruction perjury and accessory to murder. I will not be satisfied until GZ and all his accomplices are convicted and all the Florida officials that participated in the cover-up are convict as well.

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  34. Other Topic:

    This is such a great video of yours, Xena. I just watched it again.

    I think you made excellent points in your article about your video’s subject:

    https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2013/07/19/why-george-zimmerman-turned-down-citizens-on-patrol/

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    • Thanks Yahtzee. I’ve noticed a re-newed interest the videos lately. Some people are just catching up with trial videos and others are re-visiting Zimmerman’s taped interviews. He made historical records that are not going away, regardless of the verdict.

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  35. Exactly, Zimmerman turned down citizens patrol because he couldn’t do the vigilante killings with his buddy Osterman with citizens on patrol. No gun, no contact, no fake non-emergency calls to set-up probably cause and justification.

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    • GlennTX, welcome to Blackbutterfly7.

      Let’s not forget too that Zimmerman would have also been required to pass a background check.

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      • The citizens patol in our neighborhood are white suv’s with the logo on the side, which clearly identify’s them. I see an elderly man and woman often patroling. Never seen them patroling with their headlights off, so don’t think GZ would fit in with the program since he patrols with his off, so he is in the sneak creep mode. They are just the eyes and you can call them if you go on vacation and they will patrol by your home more often. Also it’s so hot here in the summer, about 60% of the residents go north May thru Oct. I do see two unmarked cars patroling, dressed in army gear, I think maybe DEA agents, and the boarder patrol. We have a couple of sherrifs and police, and I know if some nut was driving with their lights off, you would see him cuffed in the back of the squad car. You’d see lights forever, they’d call in the big guys in. We are in a no street light ordinance neighborhood, no car lights, you are suspicious big time, and they don’t play. Out comes the dog, next your seats out of your car.

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  36. Roslyn Chaney

    Just praying that they are finally about to bring this idiot to justice

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