Shooting At Arapahoe High School Near Denver

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Scene outside of Arapahoe High School

A gunman opened fire in Arapahoe High School at about 12:30 p.m. M.T.  The Associated Press quoted a hospital spokesman who said one student was in critical condition.  There are other reports that two have been killed.  CNN just reported that one student shot is in critical condition and the other student suffered minor injuries.  Let’s hope for the best.

Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson said the suspected shooter was dead from what authorities believe is a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Police SWAT teams swarmed the school, which is at the corner of South University Boulevard and Dry Creek Road in Centennial, Colorado. Bomb squads were also called to the scene.

The identity of the suspect and students who were shot have not been made known.

Arapahoe High School is about 8 miles from Columbine High School, where on April 20, 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold murdered 12 students, one teacher, and injured 27 students.   This shooting comes one day before the one-year anniversary of the massacre at Sand Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn.

With these events, more discussion is necessary regarding gun-control in America.

UPDATED

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Karl Pierson, the alleged shooter at the Arapahoe High School in suburban Denver

 

Yahoo News reports that only one person, a 15 year-old, was shot and is in critical condition.  The other student taken to the hospital had blood all over her from the other wounded student, but was not shot.

Arapahoe County  Sheriff Grayson Robinson  identified the shooter as Karl Halverson Pierson, 18. The sheriff did not elaborate on any possible motive except to say Pierson had a “confrontation or disagreement” with the teacher.

 

 

Posted on 12/13/2013, in Potpourri, Uncategorized and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 43 Comments.

  1. Reblog!! SMH ….

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  2. Reblogged this on It Is What It Is and commented:
    How many more before something is done?? One too many …

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  5. Two sides to a story

    *sigh* Why is this pattern predictable?

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  6. Tracy Rogers

    That school shooting was one mile from where I used to live… DEVASTATING!

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  8. So sad.

    Praying for the victims and their loved ones.

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  9. What we need is more guns!!! DAMNIT When does it end? WTF does it take???!!!!!

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  10. Yep….and right on time the gun nuts / lobby says “…if the teacher (s) / principal / janitor / cafeteria worker / other students were armed……….this wouldn’t have happened.

    FogenPhoole is gloating, Robbie the Racist, is going to say that the black kids should have (insert shit here) and Frank “The Racist Tank” Taaffe will say they were pushers like Trayvon.

    I can barely tolerate this country anymore.

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  11. From the early reports, this was a good student described as a nerd by some. He was on the debate team and it is this that the investigation is focused on. Something happened within that group and he was after the teacher in charge of the group (a librarian). He brought in a shotgun to the school and went straight for the library. The girl who was shot was said to have tried to talk to him and stop him.

    We had a school shooting last week in the Orlando area. A teen was shot several times by a known gang member after an argument. There are questions how the gang member got on the campus with a gun. This didn’t make the national news.

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    • Comment on the NBC article that I agree with:

      It is the issue of the NRA and its absolute refusal to do anything at all about gun control. Even the fact they call it gun control is an oxymoron! In case you don’t know what that is, it’s a complete contradiction in terms.
      Do any of you people even understand that the lobbyists are the ones running the country?”

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    • Yahtzee, I found this tidbit of information by following the link to the Denver Post contained within the article you linked..

      “Pierson was a dedicated, bright student from a religious family that attends Bible study meetings.”

      and this as well, also from the article found in the Denver Post

      “”I was wondering to all the neoclassicals and neoliberals, why isn’t the market correcting itself?” he wrote. “If the invisible hand is so strong, shouldn’t it be able to overpower regulations?”

      There is more in the article that would tend to indicate that this young man was a listener and believer of the theories pushed by Alex Jones and various other talk radio hosts that push the libertarian political ideology… Could it be that we are raising a generation of brain washed children who have no real concept of right or wrong or can accept that people are not all the same mentally or physically? Is this the direction that this nation is now headed? A country that has progressed back to the days of the old west where all disputes were decided by the person with the fastest draw of their gun or the one with the biggest gun wins? The ridiculous joke that the gun pushers have made for years about gun control being good aiming of their guns seems to be gaining traction and acceptance by to many people within our society… When will the sane people amongst us demand that this stop and pass laws to bring some of this violence under control….

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      • You are much better than I at seeing deeper into the info publicly released, crazy1946

        When will the sane people amongst us demand that this stop and pass laws to bring some of this violence under control….

        My prayer is for IMMEDIATELY!

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        • Yahtzee, It is not that I am better at seeing deeper, it is probably that for so many years I had to deal with people who had a difficult time with providing information that was pertinent to the subject at hand that I learned how to look for relevant information. You normally are much better at finding the initial story, and provide us with the story, which quite frankly is generally much harder than a follow up to seek information…

          I hear and double your prayer, however I honestly don’t see it happening in my life time…

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          • My forte is research; yours is to go into depth with critical thinking and an eye for the deep clues. We complement each other.

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  12. roderick2012

    But, but if there had only been a good guy with a gun then he would have killed the kid…..oh wait!!

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    • Yeah, the gun nuts are always coming up for excuses to arm MORE people and promote MORE gun sales!

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      • Yahtzee. Yes, the logic of the NRA is strange. They also forget that in most of the school and mass killings, that the shooter turns the gun on himself. So yeah, give someone else a gun so they can kill the person before the person commits suicide!!! I suppose they also forgot that Adam killed his mom, who was the owner of the guns he used to kill others.

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  13. The shooter who opened fire at Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Colorado, was heavily armed, with ammunition, a knife and three explosives, Sheriff Grayson Robinson told reporters on Saturday. The gunman, identified as Karl Pierson, fired five shots, including one point blank at a teenage girl, he said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-shooting/

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    • Xena, I was sitting here reflecting on some statements that were made during a study group that I was a member of many years during my time in college. The one comment that has always had the most impact on me was a statement made by one of the professors. He said that under given circumstances any one of us is capable of killing another member of the human race. Several of the female members of our group disagreed with his statements, but they ultimately they admitted that even they had times of anger that they felt the urge to reach out and kill. Now with that in mind, we throw in the current ease of access to an quick and easy means of acting on that rage, we have the perfect recipe for murder… While the gun supporters say that anything can be used to kill, such as a knife, ball bat, or even a rock, how many mass murders have been committed using those sort of weapons in relation to those that a gun was used? No matter how they push the theory that guns save lives it simply does not wash… Guns, or perhaps instead I should say, people with guns kill people…..

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      • crazy1946.

        While the gun supporters say that anything can be used to kill, such as a knife, ball bat, or even a rock, how many mass murders have been committed using those sort of weapons in relation to those that a gun was used?

        None. The only other man-made weapon that can result in mass murder is a bomb.

        I once owned a gun because I was under threat for my life. The Chief of Police in the town where I did business suggested that I get a gun. I lived in one jurisdiction, had a business office in another, and the stalker lived in yet another jurisdiction where I was administrator of my parents’ estate and Landlord. One jurisdiction didn’t know what happened in the other.

        (Have you ever needed to call 911 and try to explain what happened in three different towns involving one crazed person out to kill you?)

        Anyway, after the threat was in jail, I no longer needed the gun — kept it until I found someone who wanted it. Could I have pulled the trigger? You bet, but like the Chief of Police said while laughing, it was a 25mm pea shooter. If I needed to shoot, it was shoot and run — real fast, in the opposite direction. I suppose that means in my heart of hearts that I preferred not to kill, but not be killed either.

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        • While the gun supporters say that anything can be used to kill, such as a knife, ball bat, or even a rock, how many mass murders have been committed using those sort of weapons in relation to those that a gun was used?

          None. The only other man-made weapon that can result in mass murder is a bomb.

          While the gun supporters say that anything can be used to kill, such as a knife, ball bat, or even a rock, how many mass murders have been committed using those sort of weapons in relation to those that a gun was used?

          None. The only other man-made weapon that can result in mass murder is a bomb.

          …………..
          ………..the worse school attack EVER, happened in Bath Township, MI on May 18, 1927. 38 children dies, 6 adults died, and 58 were injured. It was done with a bomb.

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          • towerflower. WOW! You know your history. I didn’t know about Bath Township. Found the following on Wiki:

            The Bath School disaster is the historical name of the violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927 in Bath Township, Michigan, that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults in total, and injured at least 58 other people. Kehoe first killed his wife, fire-bombed his farm and set off a major explosion in the Bath Consolidated School, before committing suicide by detonating a final explosion in his truck. It is the deadliest mass murder in a school in United States history.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

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  14. towerflower

    The logic behind arming teachers or even airline pilots after 911, was not to just “kill” the person with a gun but to prevent the murder of other innocent children/adults. How many children/adults have died before the police response where the shooter finally takes his own life before the cops would have taken them out? I have mixed feelings about it because just like with a cop, it takes an ability to shoot a gun in a stressful situation and there is no guarantee that a teacher would be able to do it but I’m sure some might have the ability to do it. Would it be nice to have every school with an armed officer? Sure, but realistically there will never happen in the near future.

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    • towerflower, I have a lot of respect for you and your opinions, however I must admit that I do disagree with the idea that adding one more gun to the equation will in any way solve the problem successfully. Have we reached the point in our history that we must provide armed guards to each and every event that we participate in? Are guns always the solution to our problems? How many guns do we have to acquire in order to be safe? Could a solution that does not require violence not be found to resolve our problems in this country? Perhaps my calendar is incorrect is this 1875 or is it 2013? Please try not to take this post as an attack on you, for that is not my intent, I’m just having a difficult time understanding why we have reached the state were we have to have a gun available just to go to the store, school….. or even to church on Sunday morning…

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      • crazy, no offense taken, I was only trying to explain the logic behind the arming of teachers and others.

        As some may realize, I have commented a lot on various gun issues/laws. While I do not describe myself as a gun nut, I am involved with guns on strictly a sporting level. I only shot at paper targets and clay pigeons. I’m also a certified instructor in several areas. I concentrate on teaching youth safety and marksmanship.

        School shootings have gone up drastically since the 1980’s and that is where I think we need to start looking. What has changed in these years to bring us here. After all we have had guns before and it didn’t happen to this extent, so what has happened to society? I believe there are several reasons for this. One is the changes in the mental health issues, now the rights of a mentally disturbed person as an individual. You can’t force them to medicate themselves or seek assistance and getting assistance for one can be difficult or almost impossible.

        Another issue, I believe, is the lack of feelings when it comes to another. You have video games which encourage the killing of others–we have gone from pac man to grand theft auto and call of duty. You have movies that have gone from Pyscho which only gave you the illusion of violence to scare the pants off you to slasher movies that leave nothing to the imagination. Do we as parents help encourage it? Do we buy these movies and games for our children?

        We now have a generation of children that are led to believe that they are always winners and there are no losers. Everyone gets a trophy, no bad grades because it might effect a child, that it is always someone else’s fault and not yours, no accountability. Child gets a failing grade because the child didn’t do their work for the class and some blame the teacher instead of the child. Schools that don’t take bullying seriously where a student takes their own life or seeks revenge. Parents who aren’t involved in their child’s activities……monitoring their social media. To seek help for them when it is needed. What was the parent’s reaction to their son when he was suspended from the debate team?

        But the fact is, now, that this young man went into that school with the intent to do a lot of harm beyond the teacher. He shot 2, one who may not survive, he was armed with a lot of ammo, a machete, and 3 bombs. From beginning to end a short 80 seconds went by but it was because a school resource officer was armed and on scene quickly that stopped further carnage and the loss of innocent lives–he committed suicide when the officer arrived. What might have happened if that school resource officer wasn’t armed and the student knew it? How many others might have become victims while waiting for the police to arrive?

        What happened to respect? We have raised a generation of youth who feel entitled to where they mouth off to others or use it as a defense. I remember one incident just a few short weeks ago where I went to my son’s school to help with a after school activity and one student was blocking a line of cars from entering the school’s parking lot. I politely asked him to move his car back into his space so that we could pass and he told me “I don’t think so, I’m fine where I’m at.” It was only after I said I asked you nicely and I will report you and I got out of my car to get his license plate that he shouted out to me to make sure that I spelled his specialty plate correctly. I then flashed my school ID and told him I asked him nicely to move his vehicle so that others could pass that he finally complied. It was more important to this young man to force his way into the outgoing line that he didn’t care about others trying to get in. It was all about him, no thought of others that he was impacting. Did the school suspend his driving privileges, no, they ignored his rudeness and actions and didn’t even talk to him….I checked. So what message did we just send to that student?

        I don’t have the answers but as a society I think we are to blame.

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        • Towerflower, Thank you for your well reasoned response. You made a number of valid points and I do agree with the bulk of them. The one statement that you made that most accurately described the root of the problem is:

          “I don’t have the answers but as a society I think we are to blame.”

          unfortunately that is the most correct assessment of the whole problem that has been given as of this time… I know that with all the renown intellectuals we have residing in this nation, that a realistic solution to this problem could be had. The real question I suppose would be, do we as a nation truly want to solve the problem we currently have with too much gun violence? I fear that we do not… in part because guns equal control, control equals power, and power equal wealth and the cycle continues on and on and on and…. Too many people have the need to have control and worse yet too many more are content to grant these people control over all things in an effort to achieve a false sense of security… a stick will only give you control over people with no sticks, a gun will only give you control (and safety) over those with no gun (or smaller guns)… I suppose that means that once everyone is in possession of a gun then people who wish to take control will be forced to acquire a stronger weapon and the cycle repeats and repeats… Perhaps a gun is somewhat like a virus, no real cure for the sickness it causes…
          Have a wonderful afternoon…

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    • roderick2012

      Yes, please add another duty to the list of things that the underpaid and overworked teachers already have to fit into their day.

      Let’s not forget that for each of these armed teachers the school has to provide insurance.

      I find intersting that many of the gun nuts are the same people who believe that public shool is a failure yet they want to use it as some freakish Darwinistic proving groud for Quickest Draw in the West.

      I wonder when these teachers are going to find time to get to the shooting range between creating lesson plans, grading papers, meeting with parents and classroom instruction.

      My bet is that the teacher that you would least want to be armed will be the first one to volunteer.

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      • towerflower

        I agree that teachers are underpaid for the work that they do. Most have to do work well beyond the hours of school and also have to buy some of their own supplies. I would also add police and firefighters to the underpaid status.

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  16. SMH … where is the answer? How is this stopped?? Senseless killings, senseless loss!!

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