From Arizona To Florida, Stand Your Ground Ends In Manslaughter

It saddens me all the more to know that George Zimmerman murdered an unarmed kid and walked.

End Stand Your Ground

[Updated to include Cordell Jude sentencing]

In many of the cases where stand your ground immunity was claimed, it was later denied, a murder charge reduced to manslaughter or dropped, and a manslaughter conviction was successful.

Just because there’s a stand your ground law in your state doesn’t mean you can just kill another person and not go to prison for it. Historically, long before “stand your ground” (“no duty to retreat”) came into play, the law in every U.S. state would appear to have still warranted at least a manslaughter conviction in many cases where an unarmed person was killed.

Although state laws can vary on sentencing, manslaughter was the final verdict recently, in the cases of Cordell Jude, who killed Daniel Adkins, Jr. in Arizona, and Quentin Wyche, who killed Kendall Berry in Florida. Neither victim was armed.

Both cases, connected to the web of situations involving stand…

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Posted on 11/30/2013, in Conceal Carry & SYG, Gun Control, Uncategorized and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 10 Comments.

  1. It saddens me as well! This case bothers me to the core! I look at my own little brother who is only 14 has a coffee brown complexion and is tall and lanky, who goofs around with friends, plays video games, and tries to act a bit older on his FB page. If GZ saw my brother in his Hollister hoodie on the phone would he shoot him too? It’s scary! The jury was never going to convict him. All maddie had to do was hang the jury!. I hate when she has something to say about GZ because she let the other jurors bully her into a not guilty vote !How stupid! It just really pisses me off that certain people can’t believe that a young black man was minding his own business not looking for trouble. It’s like oh he’s young and black so he must have been up to no good. Let’s assassinate his character by looking at his social media and text messages. I can’t stand that jury, and I can’t stand anybody on that defense who led the way for a not guilty for GZ to walk free!. It also upsets me how GZ supporters blame TM for GZ problems! They blame the “media” and the “BGI” and pray for GZ.im like wtf, what about praying for the dead teenager who will never walk this earth again?! I hope trayvon martin spirit haunts GZ until he will one day confess he lied.

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    • @monicaJo.

      I hope trayvon martin spirit haunts GZ until he will one day confess he lied.

      According to Samantha, Zimmerman’s now ex-girlfriend, he overdosed on sleeping pills and also put a gun in his mouth. I would say that someone or something is haunting George Zimmerman.

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      • Two sides to a story

        His own guilty conscience, perhaps. I suppose if he were entirely innocent he could be suicidal because of the state of his life, but we’ve seen just too much behavioural evidence that suggests he victimizes people and then turns on them.

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      • He also told his ex fiancée that he was going to kill himself and that was years before Trayvon. I think he uses it as a ploy to gain sympathy when the woman in his life wants to end the relationship.

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        • @towerflower.

          I think he uses it as a ploy to gain sympathy when the woman in his life wants to end the relationship.

          Yep. There are people who do that to get their way. That is also when they should be reported to mental health care for treatment. A couple of days in a mental ward, and they might stop that crap.

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  2. At the very least GZ should have been convicted of manslaughter! The state proved manslaughter, too bad it fell on deaf ears with that jury

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    • MonicaJo. When Judge Nelson asked for specifics on what the jury wanted to know about manslaughter, and the foreperson didn’t return a specific question but the jury reached a verdict, I smelled a rat. Then Maddy, Juror B29 let the cat out of the bag when she said that the law was read to her. So, someone on that jury read manslaughter to Maddy to say that unless the state proved intent to murder, that the jury could not find Zimmerman guilty.

      Intent is an element of murder 1. It’s not an element of murder 2 neither manslaughter. So, it was by Maddy not reading the law herself that she was persuaded to believe a lie and let Zimmerman get away with murder.

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  3. Xena,

    The sad thing about it is, I still don’t think she understands the law. She still believes according to the law that she voted the right way, but morally he e got away with murder. She still doesn’t get the intent part of it. In fact, I really dont think any of the juriors understood that you could use your own judgment. I beileve they where mislead by MOM, that each point had to be proved, and that only what happened during the moment he shot Trayvon mattered. The judge by allowing only part of the jury instructions put the nail in the coffin, along with not allowing racial profiling.

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    • Two sides to a story

      Seems like the political climate in Floriduh contributed greatly to the interpretation of jury instructions. Shame on Debra Nelson.

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      • @Two sides. I just don’t understand why Judge Nelson allowed the attorneys to write their own jury instructions. Pattern Jury Instructions are written and approved by the Judicial Conference. They are written in a fill-in-the-blank fashion. When Judges allow diversion from pattern jury instructions, they allow diversion from the law. When Judge Nelson refused to allow the initial aggressor instruction, she handed West and O’Mara exactly what they wanted, which was to remove the spirit of self-defense law and start at the end rather than the beginning, allowing the initial aggressor to get away with murder.

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