George Zimmerman Trial – Day 12

This morning, the Honorable Judge Debra Nelson granted the State’s Motions to prevent the entry of Trayvon Martin’s text phone messages.  The defense may use the animation during closing argument, but it will not be entered into evidence for the jury.

It is anticipated that closing arguments will begin tomorrow after one rebuttal witness for the State.

Posted on 07/10/2013, in Evidence, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Justice For Trayvon, Zimmerman Trial Videos and tagged , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 56 Comments.

  1. The witness currently on the stand, Root, is attempting to be a witness analyst. He’s a one-man jury. The State is making objections.

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  2. Am watching now. None of this will matter. When the State reminds the jury that Zimwit chased Trayvon, the expletives he muttered, and the fact he had a gun, it will undo all of this testimony. He had no intention of having a physical altercation, he never thought he’d have to fight, because he had a gun. PUD that he is. 🙂

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    • Mornin’ Mindyme. Root just started his company this year. This is his first time testifying in a jury trial. ASA Guy is doing a good job revealing evidence that Root did not examine in forming his opinion.

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      • I can’t believe he is being asked his opinion on if Zimmerman’s statements “fcuking punks” and “these assholes, they always get away” were made with ill will.

        How da bleep is this man supposed to know?

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        • Any reasonable person knows that referring to one person as a group, and being “frustrated” about the group calling them demeaning names, demonstrates ill-will. O’Mara is insulting the jury’s intelligence.

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          • I am counting on the State to basically repeat their opening statement at closing and put those words, spoken by him, in the front of the juries minds.

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  3. Thank Goodness she ruled they couldn’t show the animation.

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    • Some sources are reporting that Judge Nelson said the defense can use the animation during closing argument, but it will not be entered into evidence for the jury to see it thereafter.

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  4. Just testing comments here.

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    • Just testing and it works here, going to test whonoze’s now where WSI says my comments are posting.

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      • Just tested, and not working on whonoze’s! Now going to try Leatherman’s.

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        • @gbrbsb. I emailed Leatherman, and posted a comment on the current thread about you being stuck either in moderation or spam. There are over a thousand comments on this morning’s thread so he might not see my comment about your issue. I have no idea when he checks his email.

          I sincerely hope this issue gets resolved for you. Right now, I’m out of suggestions and options and have no control over other blogs.

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          • How can I ever thank you enough Xena, you have been so patient along with others that I am very very touched, and so sorry I put you all through all this these last days.

            But I have some good news at least. Yesterday trying to sort the problem out, I set up new WP and new gmail under the handle “gbrbsbblogs” and although yesterday the comment I posted under it didn’t show up, (presume as a “new” poster it was held awaiting approval), it has now been accepted, so I it appears, (not holding any breath after this nightmare) I can at least post for now under the new id. (my posts are working perfectly on your blog after whatever you did but I may have to re-register there as well as on whonoze’s under the new ID to not have to keep going in and out of each ID).

            I can also now try to contact the professor and whonoze myself and not bother you all so much to see if they can fish my old ID out just like you did!

            Thanks again so much and MUA MUA MUA…

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          • @gbrbsb. Hope that things work out well AND stay fixed.

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  5. Judge Nelson inquired of George Zimmerman whether he decided whether or not to testify. The judge wanted an answer because the defense has stated that after it has completed questioning Root, it has two other witnesses that will be testify for a short time. In other words, the defense could rest today.

    On the other hand, West wants to wait before deciding whether GZ will testify to see what happens with defense witnesses waiting to testify. That speaks volumes about the defense not being sure about their case.

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    • she was quite firm in asking if he was going to testify. Don West is an idiot. But that’s nothing new! 🙂

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      • Hahaha! West is an idiot — very disrespectful to the court.

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        • So now the defense witness ‘use of force’ expert is saying “yes, he did know what Trayvon Martin was doing” at the time Zimmerman shot him. Oh Brother. All he knows is what that liar has told him. This makes me feel ill. >.<

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          • That’s the thing. GZ deliberately and maliciously murdered the only other witness who knows what happened from the time he began following in the car, until the gunshot. His defense is effectively, “Believe me over the evidence.” Yet, his credibility is nil.

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  6. Back here again to test… my new ID at PL’s failed. I posted twice and kaput!

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  7. What the hell is any witness for the defense, whose only testimony is about her experience being burglarized, suppose to prove that GZ killed Trayvon in self-defense?

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    • I know, this is crazy. Trayvon is supposed to pay for the sins of others with his blood?

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      • That is why the State’s charging affidavit includes that GZ wrongfully profiled Trayvon. But, to honestly answer your question, yes, GZ killed Trayvon as though one person representing the “assholes” and “fucking punks.”

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  8. If GZ was “soft” and accomplished nothing at Koppelli’s gym other than losing some weight, why would they want to advertise using his name? It serves no benefit to consumers unless they too want to be postured as “soft.” The State may want to argue that GZ did accomplish something more than simply weight loss. He learned maneuvers — just wanted to use them on someone who did not know the same; such as an unarmed, slim, 17 year old.

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    • Xena, If you are interested in hunting down blacks and killing them, then you should train at Kopelli’s gym. Instead of whining and complaining, blacks should sign up, and then take what they learned, and use it to hunt down whites and kill them.

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      • @Eric. I don’t believe in violence. Or, are you being sarcastic?

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        • Sarcastic? Watching this trial unfold the last weeks has forced me to accept what I had tried to deny. Whites have two set of rules. One for them, and another for everyone else. Depending how dark you are will determine how unfair and cruel those rules will be. Isn’t interesting that whites are falling over themselves to support the Afro pervuvian Hispanic? Why? Only because he slaughtered a black person. There is not an Individual from another ethnic group that could make attempt to run from their attacker and be labelled a thugs. The agressor. Zimmerman chased after Martin and is called the victim. Whites are obsessed with bullying and stalking,except when those acts are carried out against blacks. Then the bullying becomes the right to protect against a imagined threat, and the stalking becomes simply walking in the same direction. Whether you, or I believe in violence is irrelevant. White people do. They pass laws to protect that belief. The gym owner is not wrong for the ad. Blacks are wrong and stupid for not taking him up on his offer, and using it to our advantage(against them). After all Isn’t that what zimmerman did ? Goose gander. They kill ours, we should kill theirs.

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        • Hoodies up.

          We have to be strong for Trayvon and see this through to the end and the days, weeks, months and years after.

          We just have to.

          Let us all walk together arm in arm and keep hope in our heart.

          We cannot let them pick us off with despair one by one. Let us stay together with strength and hope in our hearts so that not one of us will ever walk alone!

          The darkness out there would love to turn us around.

          I say, “Ain’t nobody gonna turn us around.”!!!!!!

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          • @Yahtzee

            The darkness out there would love to turn us around.

            I say, “Ain’t nobody gonna turn us around.”!!!!!!

            Applause, and amen!

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  9. IMBW, but as far as I understand it Donnoly did “have the knowledge” because as his wife he testified under oath that he had kept away from any information, listening to screams, etc. about the case from the start, because of the possibility he could be called as a witness. IMO, JN was wrong on that point.

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  10. Don’t know if this was ever considered over at PL’s, but after talking with OH had a thought today. I was wondering about the left hand punch and Trayvon’s small injuries to his fingers on his left hand. We were wondering why, Trayvon, a right hander, would have hit GZ with his left non dominant hand, and it occurred to us that Tray could have been forced to use his left to defend himself if GZ had grabbed him or held by his right arm to detain him awaiting arrival of the police. Because I’m dislexic I never realised that that is what would happen if GZ in front of Trayvon, grabbed him, i.e. GZ’s left, his dominant hand, would if grabbing him on GZ’s left side, neutralise Trayvon’s right arm and side.

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    • If you don’t understand my above comment… join the club. I haven’t explained it well at all and made loads of errors… had a drink to drown my sadness at not being able to access the lounge or whonoze’s blog. I feel so utterly rejected it has affected my writing to an extreme. Sorry Xena.

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      • @gbrbsb. I think I understood. 🙂 What’s the lounge? Forgive my ignorance. 🙂

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        • It is where you see me posting regularly, Xena.

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        • “The lounge” is a nickname whonoze and Co use for Leatherman’s blog. I could have sworn I left you a reply yesterday for this which hasn’t published.

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          • Thanks for the explanation for “the Lounge.” I was never very active over on Whonoze’s blog. That’s not a judgment — just that I spread myself a bit thin supporting other blogs and also have responsibility here. There’s only so much time in a day. 🙂

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    • @gbrbsb. Don’t know what OH stands for. Sorry. It was an abrasion on Trayvon’s ring finger, palm side. I never associated it with what happened other than a possible defensive wound from fending off GZ’s tactical flashlight.

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      • “OH” is short for “other half”

        I could have sworn I left you a reply to this question too yesterday!

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        • @gbrbsb. There are no messages waiting moderation and if they went into the spam queue, the program deleted them. Sorry.

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          • @Xena. Absolutely no need for “sorry”. Sorry am I giving so much pain to everyone.

            Good news, it appears I’m back on whonoze’s again. For now at least, because over these days my posts have sometimes been publishing during a few of the wee hours in the morning, but a few hours later it wasn’t working again.

            Here’s to hoping whonoze fixed me for good at his so which would mean it’s only the professor’s. I think they may be away because I left a message on CraneStation’s blog at firedoglake, and I sent a string of donations electing to attach an “instructions to recipient” explaining the situation to the professor yesterday via paypal, but even that doesn’t seem to have got his attention!

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          • @gbrbsb. Since your IP is dynamic, it changes each time you re-boot your computer. The only way to prevent that is to put your computer on sleep rather than shutting down.

            I’ve noticed that Word Press will sometimes hold comments in moderation when the handle and IP address are on approved comments, but there is a different email address. Also, the handle and email address can be the same, but a different IP address will send the comment into moderation.

            I guess Akismet has been cracking down on “RIPE” IP addresses and automatically sending them into the spam queue. Those are IP addresses assigned across the great pond. Zidiots use proxy companies across the great pond in effort to prevent complaints to their ISP regarding their harassment and threats. That has caused problems for others in Europe who post comments on WP blogs.

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          • Meant to reply to you all day. I never shut down my mac, and I only shut it down these days to reboot in case that could help but it was after I had the problem, not before. Macs are very stable if you know them and I’ve worked on Macs since 1986!

            The strange thing is while at your blog I was in spam, at whonoze’s I was on his admin page and approved, they just publishing on the blog page! Now I can at least post here and at whonoze’s although I have no idea how he fixed it. I have googled around and it is a known problem with fixes but contacting PL is the difficulty.

            But another good news, albeit even stranger happenings, apart from being able to generally reply to replies to me through the notification page, I can post erratically on PL’s with my new id (gbrbsbblogs), but ONLY from my email account, (if I do it on the page, ZILCH!) and half the times I get a message back saying failed.

            Anyway, if your interested in transcripts of the trial and Bernie’s closing here’s the link, I already managed to post them at both PL’s and whonoze (I’ll post a link to the graphics too in separate post to not have it go moderating):

            http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2013.07.11.html

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          • errata:
            “… at whonoze’s I was on his admin page and approved, just not publishing on the blog page!”

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  11. No new post for today, Xena?

    Hearing these two atties fighting it out I thought of another possibility why Trayvon did not go home right away. He had decided to “run from the back” BECAUSE he was being followed and no key was found on him. Maybe to get in he would have to go to the front door Brandi’s son was to hear him. Maybe he did realise GZ had left his truck and had hot footed it up the cut through behind him and had seen him turn down RVC. Maybe Trayvon was scared to go out onto RVC himself to get to the front door in case GZ saw him, so he was waiting to see if GZ returned and maybe while waiting, maybe even near the T, GZ came up behind him cutting through between houses further up RVC.

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  12. In another post I want to ask something about the case, but here’s a link to the graphics if your interested, sorry it’s from TL:

    http://s311.photobucket.com/user/TalkLeft/slideshow/zimmerman/State%20Closing%20Argument

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