Who Was Unable To Backup or Retreat?

Can a person claim self-defense when they are holding the person they aim at and shoot?Snapshot 1 (5-7-2013 10-47 PM)

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on 05/07/2013, in Evidence, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Justice For Trayvon, Videos and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 28 Comments.

  1. Leave it to Moron O’ Mara to get the law wrong. The law says you must exorcize every avenue of escape before you use deadly force.

    Note to Moron O’ Mara……Give up & stop lying,er……trying.

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  2. Hey Racer! At times I wonder if O’Mara has watched and/or listened to any of Zimmerman’s interviews. He seems to be unaware that GZ admits to having Trayvon’s arm pinned before he unholstered his gun, aimed and shot.

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  3. it’s like Zimmerman doesn’t even ‘know’ what it is he’s saying. He’s such a bad liar.

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    • Zimmerman is a horrible liar and that is a good thing. But, he is also very impressive at telling the truth. During the Sean Hannity interview, with his pan handling custodian beside him, he was asked do you regret getting out of the car to follow Trayvon? GZ said no. That question and answer reveals how impressively Gz and his supporters(Fox news) know and tell the truth. GZ bascially admitted that he got out his struck to follow Martin, not to find an address. Gz admitted that he wasn’t simply walking in the same direction, but was following Trayvon in the same direction. So, yes he is a bad liar, but he’s so much better at telling the truth even when he thinks he’s covering it up.

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      • Hi Eric. I agree. Some people call it Freudian slips, such as this one:

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      • Nice catch Eric GZ is speaking in hindsight about the events of that night and, if he had not been following Trayvon, the answer to this question, of whether he regretted following Trayvon would have had a much different answer.

        He also doesn’t regret killing an innocent person who was doing nothing wrong and was not a criminal. So then, what was his purpose? Just to kill someone? That’s what he’s saying. Effectively saying “I wanted to kill someone that night and I do not care who it was, whether they were a criminal or not, nor whether they had done anything criminal or wrong, just so long as they were young and black!”

        So, what was there for him to regret? He had done exactly what he wanted to do!
        I hope the Judge does what I want her to do, and I will have no regrets either. Put GZ away for the rest of his natural life.

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        • When I watched the snippet of the interview I howled with laughter. Hannity asked that question, and Zimmerman nor his lawyer corrected him. Do you know if this interview can used at Gzs trial?

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          • @Eric. The Hannity interview was entered into discovery by the State.

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          • Well, the SP has taken it into evidence so I guess it could come in as impeachment material. Trouble is, there are so many barge loads of impeachment material, it’s doubtful they’ll even need to use 10% of it.

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  4. Your videos are great, Xena! So clear and to the point. Thanks for all that you do in seeking justice for Trayvon!

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    • @Yahtzee. Thanks for the comment and compliment. Credit goes to Zimmerman who gives us so much to use and connect the dots —moving forward to his conviction.

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  5. Remember Trevor Dooley when he tried to say it was self defense.

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    • They can claim that but a jury will most likely see the charade.

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    • @m1. Yes, Dooley argued that James was going for the gun, he got it first and shot James. The jury found that James saw Dooley as a threat. GZ’s claim that Trayvon said “You’re going to die tonight” is to question whether GZ saw Trayvon as a threat, but that is overcome by the fact that GZ has stated on record that he pinned Trayvon’s arm, aimed, made sure his left hand was not in the path of the bullet, and fired.

      Also, the enhanced recording of the 911 call is sure to provide evidence that GZ was the person cursing and threatening while Trayvon was screaming for his life.

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      • So Zimmerman had control of Trayvon before he drew his gun, but drew his gun and shot Trayvon anyway. He thinks that’s self-defense? No wonder MOM decided against an immunity hearing.

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  6. Xena, if you go to timestamp 30:44 (6:49:29 PM), you will be able to see George demonstrate going for his phone. I think you will notice how close the movement of his hand going for his phone is to the location he demonstrated going for his gun in the reenactment video. (Just a suggestion…..you may wish sometime in a video to put these two gz demonstrations together to show how identical they are.

    Also, I have started transcribing this video. In the video gz tells Singleton that he had W13 call his wife because when he asked the officer (Smith) if he could call his wife, the officer said, “No.” GZ goes on to say that his wife then called his “buddy Mark.”

    Here is the first of my transcription:

    February 27, 2012:

    Timestamp 3:50 (6:22:26 PM)
    Singleton: How was your day?
    Zimmerman: Not good.
    Singleton: Did you go to school?
    Zimmerman: No, school starts at 6, but
    Singleton: Did you go to work today?
    Zimmerman: I went just to tell the executives, the vice president, what happened. Because, if I would have called my direct supervisor, it would have just started to remill.
    And, um, people from the Neighborhood Watch emailed me, like, links from the Sentinel and [Lesh?] that said that , you know, that somebody was murdered and the suspect was in custody, and I just said, you know, I don’t want them to think I’m still in jail, so I’ll go there and, you know, tell them, and I went to the doctor and my psychologist, and I think the psychologist is when it hit me the hardest.
    Have you ever had to shoot somebody?
    Singleton: No.
    Zimmerman: Good for you. You’re probably stern enough to get the point.
    Singleton: I’m sorry?
    Zimmerman: You’re probably stern enough for it to get the point. You’ve got that authoritative, commanding presence
    Singleton: They can see that I’m all geared up, hey?
    Zimmerman: I think even without it. I wouldn’t question your authority. My wife’s a mess.
    Singleton: Do you have any kids?
    Zimmerman: No. Thank goodness, not yet.
    Singleton: What’s she say? that she was at home and wondered why you couldn’t return?
    Zimmerman: No. The first man who got there, I thought he was a police officer.And, I asked the police officer if I could call my wife, and he said “No” so I asked him to call and tell her. So, she knew within five minutes. The eye witness was kind enough to call. She called my buddy Mark that was there.
    Timestamp – 6: 39PM
    Singleton: Did they do an MRI or anything on you?
    Zimmerman: No. She ask me if I wanted an MRI or a CT scan. She asked why they didn’t do one. And, I said they just brought me….they said they were going to bring me here first and, you know, they washed my head off. And, they felt my nose and then they said they were going to bring me here first and then take me to CFR and I didn’t …..acronyms, I didn’t get it, at the time, but my doctor said if they didn’t do it
    then that I should just be cautious if I start vomiting or get nauseas or any loss of vision or blurriness, but other than that ( ) that it was up to me if I wanted to pay for it. Those things add up quick. So
    Singleton: Do you have insurance?
    Zimmerman: Yeah, I do but it’s like the bargain basement that’s like a $5000 co-pay
    before they pay anything now and then they pay like 50% of whatever your bill is so

    Timestamp 6:26PM to Timestamp 6: 29: 53PM Singleton and Zimmerman talk about insurance
    policies

    Timestamp – 6: 29: 56PM – Zimmerman: “He (his father) thinks I don’t listen, but I do.”
    Timestamp 6:29: 56 PM to 6:32: 27PM -They start discussing her long day and how her schedule works.

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    • Also, note……he did say that he went to his psychologist.

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    • Thanks for the recommendation and transcript. You may or may not know that we did a video in slow motion of GZ’s re-enactment where he says his jacket raised. When time allows, I’ll post an article here about that.

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      • Yes, I did see your great slow motion video of GZ’s re-enactment reaching for his gun while he said he pinned Trayvon’s hand. Of course, gz could not have held Trayvon’s hand pinned with his arm the pinned when gz then put his gun arm straight out to shoot as demonstrated in the CVSA video.

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      • Do you think Taaffe is one of the NW people who email GZ in reference to the following gz statement? –

        And, um, people from the Neighborhood Watch emailed me, like, links from the Sentinel and [Lesh?] that said that , you know, that somebody was murdered and the suspect was in custody

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        • @Yahtzee. Good catch! Wonder who those people with NW were, since it appears they all said that GZ was a Lone Ranger? Who would have GZ’s email address? Taaffe and maybe members of the HOA??

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          • Yes, just members of the HOA.

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          • Remember how Taaffe said he had quit NW in December of 2011? He said that he did not tell anyone because the NW was “so loosely affiliated there was no one to tell.”(FBI interview – 04/03/2012.

            Also from that same interview:

            xxxx(Taaffe) estimated he sees 25 people per week entering his community via an open area adjacent to his residence. xxxx(Taaffe) noted the majority of the individuals are young black males with a small percentage being whites and Hispanics. xxxx(Taaffe) has seen young black males entering the community smoking blunts. xxxx(Taaffe) has confronted some of the individuals entering the community via the open area, but xxxx(Taaffe) noted the individuals typically ignore him and continue speaking on their cellular phones.

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