Insight – Screaming For His Life

On the evening of February 26, 2012, a resident of the Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, FL., called 911 to report cries for help. Her call captured screams and the gunshot that ended the life of unarmed, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Admitted killer and accused murderer, George Zimmerman, awaits trial for 2nd degree murder, which is scheduled to begin on June 10, 2013. George Zimmerman claims that he killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

In a video, Xy11xy brings forth profound analysis of the screams captured on the 911 call. She begins with Robert Zimmerman Sr.’s own words to start her analysis, and ends with George Zimmerman’s need to silence Trayvon Martin. Xy11xy’s conclusion is confirmed by George Zimmerman himself. In his interview with Sean Hannity, Zimmerman said that he was terrified that night? Why was Zimmerman terrified? He told Hannity;

ZIMMERMAN: “I also thought the police were going to come and see me with the firearm and shoot me. I mean, I was terrified.”

Does this not sound like a man who believes that the arriving police would perceive him as a criminal because he is holding a gun?  But, holding the gun is not all Zimmerman and his dad claim was happening when Zimmerman killed Trayvon.  George claims that he was crying out for help.  Robert Zimmerman Sr. claims that George sounded like he was screaming for his life.    Why would the arriving police perceive a man holding a gun, but screaming for his life, as someone they should shoot?

In the following video, Zimmerman says that after he shot Trayvon Martin, he holstered his weapon and immediately got on top of Trayvon. Therefore, Zimmerman could not have been terrified that the police would arrive and see him with his firearm and shoot him after he shot Trayvon.  Zimmerman could only be terrified that the arriving police would see him with his firearm and shoot him before he killed Trayvon Martin. Is that logical based on Zimmerman’s version of what happened?

According to Zimmerman, when he fired his gun, Trayvon was straddled him, leaning over placing all of his weight on Zimmerman’s nose.  Also according to Zimmerman, the only hesitation between pulling his gun and shooting Trayvon, was the time he took to make sure his left-hand was not in the path of the bullet. When then, was Zimmerman terrified that the police would see him with his firearm and shoot him?

  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a man with a gun while hearing him scream for his life, straddled and bloody with the kid going for the holstered gun.
  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a teen bashing a man’s head on concrete and punching him in the face. Why shoot the man on the bottom who is on the receiving end of a physical assault, while screaming for his life?
  • Certainly, it could not have been with the police arriving and seeing a teen smothering another man. Why shoot the man on the bottom who in spite of being smothered, screams for his life?

So, we ask again, when was Zimmerman terrified that the police would see him with his firearm and shoot him? Would that only be possible if Trayvon was screaming for his life because Zimmerman was holding the gun?

Posted on 03/22/2013, in Evidence, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Justice For Trayvon, Videos and tagged , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 61 Comments.

  1. towerflower

    GZ had also made the comment before about being out of time. I think that his phone was going off, going off with the call from Off. Smith when he arrived at the complex. He then knew he was out of time, the cops had arrived. He had to do something and do it quickly. I think that is why he was afraid of the cops shooting him. They might have arrived and seen what was really happening. I would love to know if there was an incoming call to GZ’s phone right before the shot.

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    • Hi towerflower. Good to see your fonts. You make an excellent point!

      He had to do something and do it quickly.

      Yet, he said that he had Trayvon in a wrist lock. Also,if GZ was out of time (in the sense that he thought he was going to die), it seems that he would have agreed for residents to call 911 rather than help him to restrain Trayvon.

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      • Why does he need help in restraining Trayvon? I though he needed help to survive a deadly assault? If all he needed was help to restrain Trayvon, then Trayvon wasn’t so deadly after all, eh? I mean, didn’t he say that he believed he missed him and that he was still struggling? Yet, he’s not afraid that he’ll lose the upper hand again? Ah, GZ tells so many lies a jury is going to make short shrift of him once they hear the third version.

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        • Yes Lonnie. The more GZ talked, the more inconsistencies he made and the more his true intent is revealed. If GZ was placed under deadly attack, fired his gun and thought he missed Trayvon, the thing for GZ to do was remove himself from the situation. Instead, he made further physical contact with Trayvon, violating Trayvon’s body and increasing the trauma and fear on a dying kid. What is so sick is that GZ talked as if he was deputized law enforcement trying to make an impression on the cops, rather than a man who was in a life or death situation.

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          • Yes Lonnie. The more GZ talked, the more inconsistencies he made and the more his true intent is revealed. If GZ was placed under deadly attack, fired his gun and thought he missed Trayvon, the thing for GZ to do was remove himself from the situation. Instead, he made further physical contact with Trayvon, violating Trayvon’s body and increasing the trauma and fear on a dying kid.

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            Exactly, he should have withdrawn with the same fear for his life he expressed before he fired the kill shot. But, as you point out, he does worse. He completely drops his guard in favor of making further physical contact. Obviously, if he’s handling the body with both of his hands, he has already ceased using his weapon as a defense.

            I guess GZ forgot about “You got it”, remember that version?

            Don’t look for the position of Trayvon’s body to clear anything up either. One witness saw the body in two different positions ; 1. face down with one leg up and 2. face up with one leg up.

            Neither of these position agrees with what other positions witnesses see the body in.
            3. A witness sees the body face down the legs in a running position, arms in a swimming position. 4. Police find the body face down with hands underneath the body. 5, GZ claims to have spread the Victims arms into an outstretched position.

            This is five different positions of the body in less than 3 minutes. Since GZ was standing around bleeding and “dazed from the lethal attack he just suffered”, Who is repositioning the body for him? Does anyone think that the jury won’t be curious about this? Or does the defense have a “tough row to hoe?”

            Unfortunately for GZ’s attempt to claim he was bleeding and dazed. People traumatized, who have just survived a lethal attack by the “skin of their teeth”, don’t usually ask bystanders to call their wife. I mean, after all, shouldn’t everything be a blur? How could he so easily recognize friend from foe? Let alone be vexed enough abrasively insist that the caller make a long story short “just tell her I shot someone”. I’m sure the jurors will marvel at that piece of cognitive mental work.

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        • towerflower

          Yeah, he said he thought he missed but in his stress test interview he also told that officer that “I knew I was on him” when asked about the placement of the gun. It is just another of his lies.

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  2. ||GZ’s phone a blackberry on a prepaid scheme. ||

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    • Hey Lonnie. From the donated money after his arrest, GZ paid a cell phone contract a year in advance for him and ShelLIE. I suppose that contract will expire next month. Maybe we will hear O’Mara bring it up in a press conference asking for money to cover GZ’s phone expenses.

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      • Yes, but maybe someone who is familiar with blackberry service, will have a better idea of whether GPS data might be available.

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        • @Lonnie Starr. I don’t know if GZ’s phone had GPS, but according to Racer, GZ’s phone records are a nail in his coffin. At the first bond hearing, BDLR brought up that the State has text messages sent by GZ regarding a reverend and Tracy Martin.

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          • Yep, I have feeling that, like the “DatNiggyTB” GZ didn’t do a very good job of concealing his thoughts on the matter and that will be the last nail in his “coffin”. That will probably be the reason for him getting life without parole. Obviously the SP is not going to deal, why should they? They’ve won cases that have had less and more shaky evidence than this.

            While the evidence proves GZ to be a liar, it is his own testimony that impeaches him as well. Rene, Pipitone nor Knox will be able to pull his chestnuts out of the fire and they know it. They have tried, but there is just too much evidence they must leave out or avoid, that they can’t even begin to build a credible case of innocence without constructing a completely new and recognizably false fairy tale. So they’ve gone quiet.

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        • towerflower

          Did he have a blackberry? I thought the police evidence logged in an I phone from GZ.

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        • Lonnie, do you happen to know what model it is? I am going to see if I can find any info in the docs. We just happen to have a friend visiting us for a few days that works for the phone company (probably the largest) and is also a a professor at a university. I’ll see what I can find.

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          • Best I could locate is that it was a T-Mobile prepaid blackberry. I don’t know what model it was. but Walmart had a 30/mo prepaid plan, I don’t know what model phone they used, assuming GZ had little money to spend, I’d guess he picked the cheapest.

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  3. Great post Xena!! These are all facts that came out of GZ’s mouth,sometime I wonder if his supporters have ever read or heard WHAT all he has said! I would love to scream every word of this post from the rooftop.I have wanted to see GZ phone records since all this started & think will tell a much LARGER tale when we actually do get to!! RZ Sr was on the spot so QUICK considering he was just in the hospital himself.

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    • Hey Marilyn C. Sometimes I think that GZ’s supporters haven’t listened to one word he said. At other times, I think they listened and listened carefully, knowing that his inconsistencies and statements convict him. That is why they divert and distract to thugifying Trayvon, and denigrating attorney Crump, and Witness 8. If GZ had a clear case of self-defense, his supporters would have no need to make it appear that others are on trial.

      Indeed, if GZ had a clear case of self-defense, his supporters would have no need to attempt to intimidate Witness 8, including doxing her.

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      • That’s how it appears to me too Xena, like they stopped listening/believing Zimmerman when he changed his story from ‘having been jumped and sucker punched’ to meeting up face to face. It’s the one thing he’s closer to the truth of and they discount that.

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        • Hey Mindy! Yes. According to GZ, he stood face-to-face with Trayvon, not walking away. Not only did he stand face-to-face with Trayvon, but he went into his pockets. That’s a threatening physical move. He also lied to Trayvon because if GZ didn’t have a problem, he should not have been going for his phone to call 911.

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          • Exactly, how is any stranger supposed to know that GZ isn’t a criminal himself? GZ should have identified himself at that point. Reaching for a phone? How could anyone guess that he would be reaching for a phone and not a weapon? Dialing 911 is not an immediately defensive action. If GZ feels he needs to call 911, he feels threatened enough to need to reach for his weapon. After all, didn’t he get the gun because the pepper spray would take 2 or 3 seconds to work? How much longer would 911 take to work?

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  4. Xena- good analysis! Too bad the cops didn’t find him and shoot him.

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  5. Oh I hope that got everything to nail him good, his supporters skip pass everything he said and did and like Xena said, they focus on W8 and Att Crump. But his day is coming and coming quickly. I can see this playing out in court just like this.

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  6. Excellent post, excellent comments and questions!!!

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  7. There were complaints about GZ’s behavior before he killed Trayvon.

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    • blushedbrown

      Excellent Post Xena!
      Wow, Sandford Watch is on the ball. I have been trying to contact T Amie for the longest, remember way back when, I had told you I tried contacting him via Facebook.
      I knew he would eventually show up and I am grateful it was with Sandford Watch.

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    • wow, this is outrageous!! please let these witnesses testify to this at trial!
      this is all the JURORS need to realize exactly what happened in plain and simple English. it doesn’t take any special forensic science to figure out what that POS was doing. you don’t need a behavioral science expert witness to understand what happened that night.
      you barely need to be human to get it! i think most mammals, if given this information in the way in which they communicate, be it chirps or grunts or chest thumps, can see that gz was a hunter and Trayvon was the hunted!

      gz is like a primitive single cell *thing*, his actions are basic. he is so simple minded that he doesn’t even try to hide his intentions b/c he’s too stupid! it’s just gross…i swear this guy and his peeps are amazing to me! i can’t believe they are really for real! it’s unbelievable!

      please let them rot!

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  8. WOW! That’s all I can say; WOW! This is so clear. GZ killed Trayvon to shut him up so the cops wouldn’t arrive and find a crying kid and a man with a gun.

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  9. Thugboat is the State’s most important witness. He will never take the stand IMO because he won’t be able to explain his lies. the louder Jr gets, the more you know thugboat has no defense and he, his family and his attorneys know it.

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    • It’s my impression that O’Mara is not going for an immunity hearing because he knows he cannot put GZ on the witness stand. The first bond hearing, which is the only hearing where GZ took the stand, resulted in him telling more lies. BDLR was getting ready to tear that booty up with GZ’s text messages. Had O’Mara not objected and Judge Lester sustained, GZ would have been on the stand for another 30 minutes contradicting himself.

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  10. This is one of you best articles, Xena! I wish the whole nation could read it along with the link you posted in the article.

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    • Thank you. I don’t have Twitter so will appreciate any and all tweets about the article for those who do have Twitter.

      Credit goes to xy11xy for the video that inspired the article. She articulated and showed what she discerned of Papa Zim’s words, and I remembered what GZ said on Hannity’s program. Go Team Warriors!!

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  11. @Kenny Mullis. Spurious comments that are accusatory towards the victim while also lacking evidence are considered intended to inflame and are therefore, not allowed.
    Admin.

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  12. Great article, and video.

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  13. Trayvon never asked him if he had a problem. why do people assume he said that? DEE DEE has told what Trayvon said just before the confrontation began.

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    • Hi Kelly. For sake of agreeing quickly with thine adversary, what is wrong if Trayvon had asked GZ if he had a problem? Here is a man who first followed by vehicle and when Trayvon runs to an area where no vehicle can drive, he finds the creepy guy is out of the vehicle and on foot in the same area.

      Looks to me that GZ did have a problem. He told us his problem; i.e., “These assholes. They always get away.” GZ again referred to Trayvon in the plural when Trayvon ran — “fucking coons/punks.” Yes. GZ had a problem.

      GZ admits further that he had a problem by reaching in his pockets for his cell phone to call 911. Who calls 911 unless they have a problem?

      So, GZ lied to Trayvon when he said he didn’t have a problem. He didn’t say he didn’t have a problem and turn and walk away from Trayvon, did he? According to GZ’s re-enactment, he stood flat-foot, face-to-face with Trayvon, and began reaching in his pockets. That is a threatening action. But we still know that it didn’t go down that way. No matter. GZ’s story makes no reasonable sense and the jury shall see right through it.

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  14. amsterdam1234

    Nice place you’ve got here Xena.
    Great article.

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    • Hey Amsterdam!! Happy to see your fonts. Thanks. By the way, I’m still looking at your video analysis. I know you guys did further work but there are a few things you pointed out that still capture my interest.

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      • amsterdam1234

        Thanks Xena,
        I made a lot of mistakes. I was working in the dark on many different levels at that time. There wasn’t a whole lot of interest in those videos. But through my analysis I found BCClist. Tchoupi did it the scientific way, he documented everything. I think our biggest accomplishment was getting the time right, and Whonoze’s editing job.

        I enjoy your sharp analysis at Leatherman’s, and now here too. I’ll definitely drop by again to read your articles.

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        • Amsterdam, when I first saw the clubhouse videos, I was at a lost of what to look for. In the beginning, it was through your work, and that of Trent Sawyer’s, that I took interest because at least I knew that I could see some things.

          You might want to read the comments between myself and Willis at the following:

          https://blackbutterfly7.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/clubhouse-videos-discovery-by-the-state/

          There are still a few seconds of your analysis and that of Trent’s that has my attention. I do not know if it is Trayvon leaving the mail shed, but there certainly is a vehicle that appears moving very slowly after that shape passes by.

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          • amsterdam1234

            I can understand that you think that. I don’t think it is Trayvon because of the headlights, but also because of the time it takes place. In Whonoze’s video, it doesn’t show that particular light. We don’t exactly know if there was only one car driving up and down RVC or if there was a second car driving there too. We know a car turned on to TTL. I think there were 2 cars on RVC and that GZ drove south on TTL about 20 sec earlier than in Whonoze’s video.

            In Whonoze’s video the eastpool hall is not shown when the light event you are talking about took place. The light you are talking about took place at 7:08:52 pm. We think Trayvon left the mail shade 2 minutes later. If you check Whonoze’s video at 7:08:52, you’ll see what I mean.
            I hope that helps.

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            • @amsterdam. I’ll look at Whonoze’s video again — it sounds like the time you have given that I do see the vehicle drive slowly pass the mail shed. What I might do, if time permits, is but together a video of the events that I question, along with the suggestions that everyone has given. Thanks for your time and interests in this.

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        • Amsterdam, btw, thank you for the compliment. Justice for Trayvon!

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  15. ZIMMERMAN: “I also thought the police were going to come and see me with the firearm and shoot me. I mean, I was terrified.”

    Heh heh…. poor, dumb George.

    Hannity asked him what he was feeling after he fired the shot. George implies he was STILL holding the gun, and the police would “see” him with it (presumably in his hand) and shoot him. But, it was real dark….

    And, Xe-force deals another blow:

    Zimmerman says that after he shot Trayvon Martin, he holstered his weapon and immediately got on top of Trayvon. Therefore, Zimmerman could not have been terrified that the police would arrive and see him with his firearm and shoot him after he shot Trayvon. Zimmerman could only be terrified that the arriving police would see him with his firearm and shoot him before he killed Trayvon Martin.

    Aha!….

    The cops would arrive and see him holding a gun while pinning a SCREAMING boy to the ground! THAT is what terrified George! First the cops would hear the screaming, then they would come upon the scene with their torches and see George pinning the screaming boy, then they’d spot the gun… or, Trayvon would scream that the man has a gun.

    Xena, it looks like George plays 3-card Monte with the events of that night. He switches the events around in time. Some things that he says happened after the shot, in fact happened before it. Prosecutor’s just have to prove it…

    And the rest of what you say is simply brilliant…!

    Heh…I think later I’m gonna cut myself a big piece of chocolate cake…I’ve got some thinking to do.

    Brilliant post, Xena!

    Tingles.

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    • xy11xy. So good to see your fonts!! The video you prepared was truly inspirational for the article.

      BTW, GZ also told Hannity at one point that he was screaming for help hoping that the police would find him. IIRC, that’s on page 4 of the Hannity transcript. So, which was it? Was he screaming hoping that the arriving cop would locate him, or was he afraid that the arriving cop would see him with his gun and shoot him? GZ consistently contradicts himself.

      GZ did get on Trayvon’s back after he killed him, but he lied about spreading Trayvon’s arms out. Based on some discussion on another blog, some believe that GZ was making sure that the bullet had not gone through Trayvon’s body into the ground, because he would have to come up with another explanation other than Trayvon being on top.

      I’ve pondered whether GZ frisked Trayvon in effort to see if there was anything he could portray as mistaking for a weapon. Also, I’ve ponder whether GZ obtained blood from Trayvon’s wound to apply to his head. The EMTs reported that the blood on GZ’s head was dry. That would mean the head boo-boo’s were not running, bleeding wounds. Funny that Trayvon’s blood was found on the bag of Skittles that was still in the hoodie pocket.

      Lots of tingles here. 🙂 I anxiously await trial.

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      • So let’s see if I’ve got this right. GZ was screaming at the top of his lungs in abject terror at the painful and lethal assault he was suffering and he was screaming at the top of his lungs for someone to come and help him, and he was screaming so that the police would find him.
        While at the same time he was terrified that the police would see him with his gun and shoot him, while his victim was alive, uninjured laying faced down in the grass, he holstered his gun and got down on top of this dangerous character, somehow assured that the attack would not begin again? While in high humidity in cool night air, his blood dried in less than a quarter hour. I doubt if a blood spatter expert is going to confirm the blood evidence as being supportive of GZ’s story.

        Don’t forget to gently mention that Trayvon Martin was the hero that night, deserving of honors for his bravery and be subtle about it. Nothing gross. We’ll second you and add amen.

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        • @Lonnie Starr. GZ had been pretty consistent with his reason for yelling for help; it was to restrain Trayvon. He didn’t want witnesses calling the cops. “Just help me restrain this guy.” Then on Hannity’s, that changed to yelling for help so the cops would be able to find him. That is inconsistent with witnesses calling 911 because those witnesses were able to tell the cops where the altercation was taking place.

          In his re-enactment, GZ demonstrated that his authority and bravery derived from his gun — remember GZ said after he fired the gun, that he thought Trayvon was giving up, like “Okay. I see you have a gun.” Funny, because that contradicts GZ’s statement that Trayvon saw the gun and was going for it. Trayvon would then have given up upon having GZ pin his arm and before GZ unholstered it — had Trayvon believed that he was in the wrong rather than being an innocent, unarmed 17 year old minding his own business.

          Clearly, to Trayvon, GZ was a creepy guy who had followed him in a vehicle, then on foot. On a rainy night, what could this creepy guy possibly want? Was it money? GZ was up to no good and looked like he was on drugs or something. What could be possibly want from Trayvon? That leads to the most logical question — “What are you following me for?”

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    • Time we punch back at the CTH. The new meme is to praise Trayvon as an honorable hero for resisting his powerful armed attacker. “He might have been terrified but at least he refused to answer the questions! He’s a first order Hero!” Get this out there gang, don’t be obvious or heavy handed, just work the message into your posts. Naturally they won’t be able to stand it, so they’ll come back with… well, just watch what they come back with. You want to talk about nails and coffins? Let’s give them a chance to show just how stupid they really are.

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  16. ..another thing..

    The 3-card Monte bit is why I don’t believe the story about jumping on the dying boy’s back AFTER the shot, to restrain him. Does that make any sense? There is no way Trayvon needed restraining with a bullet in his heart and lungs. The only time Trayvon needed restraining was BEFORE the shot. George is telling us the truth about what he did, but is lying about when he did it, and why he did it.

    He’s not really that good a liar, after all. George is not quick enough or inventive enough to make up lies about big events. The best he can do is lie about what point in time each event happened and the reasons for his actions.

    Oh my… It’s gonna be one heck of a summer.

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    • GZ has some story going there: The guy who just a split second ago was about to take your life. Is now laying faced down on the ground uninjured… Now you’re going to put away your gun and get down on his back? Right! Bravo Phogen tell that one to the jury, I’m sure they’re going to say “gee what a hero!” Not!

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  17. Ralph Marlow

    If GZ thought he missed the first time he shot he would have fired another shot, at least if he was fearing for his life.

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