Knox gets Knocked Out By LLMPapa, A True Warrior For Justice
We are called True Warriors for Justice for Trayvon for many reasons. One of those reasons is our unwavering commitment of making sure that George Zimmerman faces a jury of his peers in the killing of Trayvon Martin. A gentleman referred as LLMPapa has produced several videos regarding the Trayvon Martin murder case. He has produced more than 300 videos on his YouTube channel. His videos are extremely informative by using visual and audio with the case evidence that has been made available to us, the general public. He has a unique ability of taking the evidence and putting it in context so the average viewer may understand the evidence. His videos are not limited to just evidence documents, but also what the defendant, the defendant’s family and lawyers have said in interviews, radio and social media. He has made some humorous videos as well.
Mr. Michael Knox, a forensic expert, was interviewed by Tony Pipitone, and put together a demonstration using 2 cardboard cut outs and two white T-shirts.
Mr. Michael Knox has also written a book called “Intermediate Range”. I admit I did buy the book. He presented his book as an unbiased view of the evidence. If I remember correctly, Knox also said he had a copy of GZ’s concealed weapons license in the book.
Fellow bloggers know that I love having links and have an extensive library of the evidence available. I share it with fellow bloggers when they need a quick reference. Thus, upon reading Mr. Knox’s interview and watching his demonstration, I was sadly disappointed to find that he does not take all available evidence into account. Also, in my view and in the view of many others, Mr. Knox did not conduct his experiments authentically and omits pertinent evidence in order to reach his conclusions.
Mr. Knox comes to the faulty conclusion and assertions based on his belief that Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman when Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the heart. In Mr. Knox’s expert opinion, the position of the misalignment of the bullet hole through both garments is due to “sag” and gravity of Trayvon Martin’s hooded sweatshirt. However, in his demonstration, Mr. Knox stands while firing the shot and his cardboard substitution for Trayvon is upright.
We have found his conclusion to be flawed.
The Medical Examiner’s autopsy reports that the trajectory of the bullet was directly front to back.
Trayvon Martin was either flat on his back or standing when he was shot.
Either way, the bullet trajectory can be accomplished from both positions, but not from a leaning position as the defendant claims and Mr. Knox claims.
If Trayvon was leaning over GZ, as Mr. Knox asserts, then as an credible expert, Mr. Knox should have produced his demonstration that way and traced the path of the bullet.
Witnesses 5, 16,12 and 18 all said they saw GZ on top of Trayvon at the time or immediately following the shot. Mr. Knox apparently took the word of one witness, (wit-6) and GZ’s statements over the totality of all the witnesses statements and evidence. We are all aware that Witness 6 later changed his statements of what he saw. First claiming that he saw MMA style beating, he later gave an interview with State prosecutors that he saw no fists being thrown, nor heard sounds of flesh hitting flesh.
We have come to the conclusion, based on the evidence, that Zimmerman had a hold of Trayvon Martin’s hooded sweatshirt and his underneath sweatshirt, when he shot Trayvon in the heart. In his videoed statements, Zimmerman demonstrates this as well by reaching out his left arm and clasping his left hand.
Recently, LLMPapa made a series of videos challenging Michael Knox’s conclusions presented in his interview with Tony Pipitone of Channel Six news of Orlando, Fl.
The standards that we mostly use in defense of Trayvon Martin being murdered are to use the evidence we have available and reasonable speculations that can be backed up with data available to us.
According to Mr. Knox’s blog post dated May 18th 2012, he posted two scenarios.
Excerpt taken from blog post dated 5/2012:
“In order for there to be this much distance between the clothes and the skin, one of two things had to happen: either (1) the clothing was being pulled away from Martin’s body (presumably by George Zimmerman) or (2) Martin was on top of Zimmerman, chest downward, with his clothes hanging due to gravity.”
Fast forward to our present date, where we have more detailed information per discovery. Knox chose to conclude the second scenario was the best to present in his interview with Tony Pipitone, which was that “Martin was on top of Zimmerman, chest downward, with his clothes hanging due to gravity.” Mr. Knox does not say why he abandoned the aforementioned scenario number 1, for his scenario number two. Therefore, we must conclude that Mr. Knox chooses to believe Zimmerman’s narrative of being on the bottom when he shot Trayvon Martin.
LLMPapa addressed the Zimmerman being straddled story when he shot Trayvon in the following video.
A poster named Patricia postulated a long time ago that Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon using a painful restraining maneuver to keep Trayvon down. At the very, very, very beginning of witness-11’s 911 call, we clearly hear the words “I’m begging you, get offffffffffff”. We posted about that in September 2012.
I along with others firmly believe that those words screamed are from Trayvon Martin. Two independent audiologists confirmed that the screams heard on the 911 call are not the voice of George Zimmerman. They have been listed on the State’s witness list.
In all of the many statements made by Zimmerman, either by written statements or interviews with LE, FDLE, walk thru the next day, he has never claimed to say those words, “I’m begging you. Get off”. He only claims that he yelled for help.
I reiterate again; Mr. Knox, “the expert”, did not listen or review all the evidence to date, before going on National Television to claim conclusively in his expert opinion that the shot came from underneath Trayvon Martin.
We know the amount of effort that goes into LLMPapa’s videos and we all love and admire him for his continuing support for Trayvon Martin. LLMPapa has declined several interview requests from several newspaper reporters. In one video he explained his reasons why.
Our commitment is a shared one. After viewing the series I felt, as a True Warrior for Justice, I must get LLMPapa’s videos out to the general public for everyone to view and compare with Knox’s analysis.
Mr. Knox started a small Twitter war with LLMPapa, asserting that his measurements were off and used 5 syllable words on his blog to try to deflect his errors. He immediately tweeted Mr. Pipitone, Robert Zimmerman Jr, Charles Blow, and Benjamin Crump among others, apparently in effort to save his reputation. In one of his twitter responses, he wants to meet LLMPapa for a face to face. Our question to Mr. Knox is, how did you become aware of LLMPapa’s videos? Are you aware that there are Zimmerman supporters who instigate arguments and defame those disagreeing with them by using partial truths with malicious lies about their personal lives? Would you want to subject LLMPapa, or anyone for that matter, to massive cyber-harassment and illegal doxing?
Mr. Knox, you may not understand our reasons for being active in seeking justice for Trayvon Martin. While your reasons may only be to sell a self- published book, get a few new clients, get on TV, and maybe just maybe be called as an “expert”witness in the case of Florida vs. George Zimmerman, those are not our reasons. You claim things in your expert view that do not agree with all evidence. For instance let’s take gravity for an example. The back of Mr. Zimmerman’s head shows blood going towards his ears, indicating that GZ was leaning forward. The photo is time stamped at 7:19, 3 minutes after he shot Trayvon. In the photo, there is no dirt,grit from the pavement, debris, or grass on the back of his head to indicate he was on his back when he fired that fatal shot. Blood rivulets are going forward toward his ears. How is it possible that blood flows upward for Mr. Zimmerman, presumably on his back for a whole minute, while supposedly being beaten. Do the laws of gravity not apply to him?
Gravity does not lie.
But Mr. Zimmerman does.
The fact of the matter is you did not do your homework. You did not do due diligence in fact-finding and presenting a valid argument for your analysis. You got called out by a “layman “and you will not own up to it. Myself, along with others, shall continue to shed light on the darkness that you and others spread. Experts like Mr. Knox do a disservice to their profession and the judicial system. We shall continue our quest in keeping the public aware of people like you where the word of an “expert” can set a guilty man free, and send an innocent one to his grave without Justice.
Posted on 03/11/2013, in Evidence, George and Shellie Zimmerman, Heroes, Justice For Trayvon, Videos and tagged bullet holes, cardboard and bullshit, current-events, forensic, George Zimmerman, justice for Trayvon, LLMPapa, medical examiner's report, Michael Knox, Trayvon Martin. Bookmark the permalink. 77 Comments.